what's the secret to progress in military press/overhead press?

[purenaturalstrength]

this is the only lift that doesnt improve despite hardest efforts

[Hulkotron]

UTD

[wes]

5x5
partials
rest pause
3x3
more drugs 


All of the above might help.

[purenaturalstrength]

5x5
partials
rest pause
3x3
more drugs 


All of the above might help.

i do 5x5 on wednesday, the plan was to do 4 weeks of this, then change to 3x3 for 5 weeks

but on the fourth week the plan failed

try again next week or switch to 3x3 regardless?

[BigCyp]

i do 5x5 on wednesday, the plan was to do 4 weeks of this, then change to 3x3 for 5 weeks

but on the fourth week the plan failed

try again next week or switch to 3x3 regardless?

Have you tried lowering the weight and doing 'explosive movements' (best done on smith for safety lol) aka blasting the bar really fast on the up, and catching it/lowering it down - repeat for sets of 5 until failure.

This helped me break plateu on military press, especially in the first 20% of ROM when I feel I am lagging.

[Brocty]

 halo drol tren 

[wes]

i do 5x5 on wednesday, the plan was to do 4 weeks of this, then change to 3x3 for 5 weeks

but on the fourth week the plan failed

try again next week or switch to 3x3 regardless?

You could try doing Giant-Sets !!  LOL 

Just kidding,put the gun down! 

[purenaturalstrength]

ARE SEATED BEHIND THE NECK BARBELL PRESSES SUPERIOR TO STANDING OVERHEAD PRESSES (front)?


i saw that ed coan does seated behind the neck presses


no standing front presses


i wonder

[supernick]

why not just  sit??? standing hurts my lower back.....is there any benefit over sitting

[aesthetics]

close grip, bench lockouts, etc...


mostly triceps

[purenaturalstrength]

why not just  sit??? standing hurts my lower back.....is there any benefit over sitting

i wonder


these strength programs all stress that u have to do it standing

but never explain....


some egyptian guy claimed it engages the transversus adominis more oir soomething

[wes]

I do all of my pressing exercises seated these days.

[purenaturalstrength]

I do all of my pressing exercises seated these days.

seems like only behind the neck seated makes sense


the front ones turn into an incline bench

[aesthetics]

i don't like BTN press because mechanically it puts the shoulder in a bad position and my shoulders are bad enough already to the point of preventing me from lifting at 100%. there is really not much difference, greater medial delt activation with BTN but, not a big deal as you can superset with side laterals before the overhead press in order to fully exhaust the medial delt.

though, i think for a natural, hypertrophy specific trainign should be discarded. i don't think you can make a lot of gains in size as a natural and you should instead focus on going heavy as hell, you know? do a power lifting routine, bands chains, explosive lifting, etc...

[purenaturalstrength]

i don't like BTN press because mechanically it puts the shoulder in a bad position and my shoulders are bad enough already to the point of preventing me from lifting at 100%. there is really not much difference, greater medial delt activation with BTN but, not a big deal as you can superset with side laterals before the overhead press in order to fully exhaust the medial delt.

though, i think for a natural, hypertrophy specific trainign should be discarded. i don't think you can make a lot of gains in size as a natural and you should instead focus on going heavy as hell, you know? do a power lifting routine, bands chains, explosive lifting, etc...

yes totally, i do this routine at the moment
http://stronglifts.com/madcow/5x5_Program/Periodized_5x5.htm

it actually works but i'm struggling incredibly with the overhead press


maybe i should just use smaller increments,

i increase weight 2.5 kg on all lifts weekly but considering i use more than double for squats trhan for overhead i should maybe use 1kg increases in overhead? lol

[AlphaMaleDawg]

this is the only lift that doesnt improve despite hardest efforts

up the dose

[purenaturalstrength]

up the dose

it should be possible to overhead press 1xbodyweight for a couple of reps natural according to stuart mc robert

lol

[B_B_C]

ARE SEATED BEHIND THE NECK BARBELL PRESSES SUPERIOR TO STANDING OVERHEAD PRESSES (front)?
i saw that ed coan does seated behind the neck presses
no standing front presses
i wonder

might be of some use:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=408448.0

[Metabolic]

More accesory work directed to the weak points?

[StanZoLOL]

No secrets. More muscle/more drugs. It's a very genetic lift, much harder to progress than bench.

[purenaturalstrength]

More accesory work directed to the weak points?

the more accessory work i did

the worse my main lifts got

too much recovery wasting?

lol

off to the gym

bye friends

[funk51]

this is the only lift that doesnt improve despite hardest efforts

go on this man's site for the answer.

[deceiver]

In all honesty from my own experience... Drugs. The more I take the better millitary press I have. On the contrary to squats or deads where I don't see rapid improvement from drugs, they go up whatever I do.

[Metabolic]

the more accessory work i did

the worse my main lifts got

too much recovery wasting?

lol

off to the gym

bye friends

Its true too much volume may interfere, but they even talk about tailoring it to your needs, and it seems you need to. 

[the trainer]

Inject gh into the delts.