Author Topic: Bull S%@& Racial incident mars high school game (Read 7113 times)

OzmO · « **on:** March 07, 2012, 10:06:27 AM »

WTF is wrong with people? Nation of hyper sensitive pussies.

http://www.ksat.com/news/defenders/Racial-incident-mars-high-school-game/-/478436/9225754/-/145ddl2/-/index.html

SAN ANTONIO -

A local school district is apologizing after an apparent incident of racism at a boys high school basketball game this past weekend.

When the final whistle blew Saturday, Alamo Heights celebrated a convincing victory over San Antonio Edison.

Alamo Heights Head Coach Andrew Brewer said he was proud of his team.
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"Tremendously proud,” Brewer said. “Tremendously. It's the best group of kids."

But it was just after the trophy presentation when the coach was not proud of the chant coming from Alamo Heights fans.

"USA, USA, USA," they chanted.

San Antonio Independent School District officials took the chant as a racial insult to a school with all minority players from a school with mostly white ones.

On the KSAT 12 Defenders Facebook page, Santos Villarreal's post reads “this has to stop.”

SAISD Spokeswoman Leslie Price heard about the incident after it had happened.

"This is very disrespectful to our students,” Price said.

She said the district is glad the coach put a stop to the chant immediately and hopes Alamo Heights addresses it quickly.

"It is surprising and it's disappointing to hear that anyone would be out there making those kind of remarks," Price said.

Edison students who attended Saturday's game were shocked when they heard the chant. Some thought the fans of the victors should have been better behaved.

Ruby Arredondo and Forest Lebaron are seniors at Edison and Julian Castellano is a junior.

"I was very surprised,” Castellano said. “Very appalled."

"They didn't really have any class," Arredondo said.

"It just rubbed us the wrong way," Lebaron said.

Alamo Heights Superintendent Dr. Kevin Brown also apologized for the chant.

"We just hope that people know that that's not who we are and we're not going to let it happen again," Brown said.

Alamo Heights has apologized to SAISD and the students identified will also have to apologize and have been banned from the state title games.

"We think that you have to earn a right to be there and that's not a reflection of our school district," Brown said.

Both districts are now just trying to move past this disturbing incident.

Another SAISD school, Lanier High, faced a similar incident within the last year from students in the Cedar Park school district.

Shockwave · « **Reply #1 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:14:14 AM »

Wait - they took people chanting USA as offensive?!

WTF!!! Theyre all FROM THE USA!

IMHO, this is becoming a big problem - people now days are living here, but identify themselves with their home country.
In the past, when people moved to the US, they were Americans, they assimilated and became part of our culture, took pride in being American.
Now they move here, pimp their home country and get offended when people chant their (new) countries name with pride?

People now days seem to want to move here and use the benefits and opportunities but dont consider themselves Americans anymore, if that makes sense.. kinda having trouble explaining it.

In the past, when they moved here, the US became their 1st priority, they became AMERICANS.

Seems like they dont respect becoming an American anymore, they come here as Mexicans, or Africans, or whatever, and expect us to treat them like Mexicans of Africans instead of fellow American Citizens, and its really starting to irritate me.

blacken700 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:23:06 AM »

come on their all from the usa,but why do you think they were chanting usa,the other team was mostly minorities.it's not to hard to read into this

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #3 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:29:14 AM »

OzmO · « **Reply #4 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:29:32 AM »

Quote from: blacken700 on March 07, 2012, 10:23:06 AM

come on their all from the usa,but why do you think they were chanting usa,the other team was mostly minorities.it's not to hard to read into this

Are they illegal aliens?

And does Chanting USA mean nationalism or racism?

Fact is they are in this country. If they take offense to someone chanting USA they should get the fuck out.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #5 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:29:54 AM »

Quote from: blacken700 on March 07, 2012, 10:23:06 AM

come on their all from the usa,but why do you think they were chanting usa,the other team was mostly minorities.it's not to hard to read into this

blacken700 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:33:23 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 07, 2012, 10:29:54 AM

if your a lawyer you have to be the fucking dumbest lawyer in the country

blacken700 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:36:04 AM »

i didn't think some of you would see anything wrong with it

haider · « **Reply #8 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:36:42 AM »

Quote from: Shockwave on March 07, 2012, 10:14:14 AM

Wait - they took people chanting USA as offensive?!

WTF!!! Theyre all FROM THE USA!

IMHO, this is becoming a big problem - people now days are living here, but identify themselves with their home country.
In the past, when people moved to the US, they were Americans, they assimilated and became part of our culture, took pride in being American.
Now they move here, pimp their home country and get offended when people chant their (new) countries name with pride?

People now days seem to want to move here and use the benefits and opportunities but dont consider themselves Americans anymore, if that makes sense.. kinda having trouble explaining it.

In the past, when they moved here, the US became their 1st priority, they became AMERICANS.

Seems like they dont respect becoming an American anymore, they come here as Mexicans, or Africans, or whatever, and expect us to treat them like Mexicans of Africans instead of fellow American Citizens, and its really starting to irritate me.

I think you are mixing up two different things- the story has nothing to do with assimilation of foreigners..I'm totally with you that we should have better assimilation of immigrants (this coming from someone who is an immigrant himself). But the article doesn't mention anywhere the ethnic make-up of the team, just that it was a minority team. We have no idea about how 'assimilated' the team was, just that it was a minority team. Why would they chant 'USA USA' instead of their home teams name, if not to say that the other team was 'unamerican'? It seems to me to be an unfortunate case of teenage belligerent patriotism, something we obviously should not condone.

Having said the above, it doesn't even matter whether the team was foreign, unassimilated, black, white, etc. This type of behavior is never okay.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:37:18 AM »

Quote from: blacken700 on March 07, 2012, 10:36:04 AM

i didn't think some of you would see anything wrong with it

Hell no, nothing wrong with it. Would have preferred that they sing the Kenyan National Anthem?

blacken700 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:38:11 AM »

Quote from: haider on March 07, 2012, 10:36:42 AM

I think you are mixing up two different things- the story has nothing to do with assimilation of foreigners..I'm totally with you that we should have better assimilation of immigrants (this coming from someone who is an immigrant himself). But the article doesn't mention anywhere the ethnic make-up of the team, just that it was a minority team. We have no idea about how 'assimilated' the team was, just that it was a minority team. Why would they chant 'USA USA' instead of their home teams name, if not to say that the other team was 'unamerican'? It seems to me to be an unfortunate case of teenage belligerent patriotism, something we obviously should not condone.

Having said the above, it doesn't even matter whether the team was foreign, unassimilated, black, white, etc. This type of behavior is never okay.

spot on

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:41:19 AM »

blacken700 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:43:52 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 07, 2012, 10:41:19 AM

can't you stay on topic,your like a fourth grader

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:44:46 AM »

Quote from: blacken700 on March 07, 2012, 10:43:52 AM

can't you stay on topic,your like a fourth grader

What if the blacks won and they started shouting USA USA USA

Would that have been racist?

Shockwave · « **Reply #14 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:48:31 AM »

Quote from: haider on March 07, 2012, 10:36:42 AM

I think you are mixing up two different things- the story has nothing to do with assimilation of foreigners..I'm totally with you that we should have better assimilation of immigrants (this coming from someone who is an immigrant himself). But the article doesn't mention anywhere the ethnic make-up of the team, just that it was a minority team. We have no idea about how 'assimilated' the team was, just that it was a minority team. Why would they chant 'USA USA' instead of their home teams name, if not to say that the other team was 'unamerican'? It seems to me to be an unfortunate case of teenage belligerent patriotism, something we obviously should not condone.

Having said the above, it doesn't even matter whether the team was foreign, unassimilated, black, white, etc. This type of behavior is never okay.

In the case your outlining - yes, you are correct.
Im taking it at face value, considering there could have been many possible reasons for the chant, all of which would not be construed as an insult.
I dont see an entire group chanting the countries name to offend another group of people, who are all living in the country. And therein lies my angst - youre living here, you should associate yourself WITH the chant, not get offended by it. Getting offended by it means they view themselves as not being a part of this country.

I tracked off onto a different issue in my post, mostly due to having seen so much of this, where people immigrate to this country and then expect to live like theyre in their home country, here.

Shockwave · « **Reply #15 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:50:53 AM »

Quote from: OzmO on March 07, 2012, 10:29:32 AM

Are they illegal aliens?

And does Chanting USA mean nationalism or racism?

Fact is they are in this country. If they take offense to someone chanting USA they should get the fuck out.

This was my point.
To me, if theyre getting offended by people chanting the countries name instead of associating with it. They dont view themselves as being Americans and that is the only reason I can see them getting offended.

This is all just MHO of course.

Fury · « **Reply #16 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:51:29 AM »

Can thank the left for everyone being a hyphenated American these days.

Option D · « **Reply #17 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:52:22 AM »

Since when do they play basketball on Mars.

OzmO · « **Reply #18 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:53:39 AM »

Quote from: haider on March 07, 2012, 10:36:42 AM

I think you are mixing up two different things- the story has nothing to do with assimilation of foreigners..I'm totally with you that we should have better assimilation of immigrants (this coming from someone who is an immigrant himself). But the article doesn't mention anywhere the ethnic make-up of the team, just that it was a minority team. We have no idea about how 'assimilated' the team was, just that it was a minority team. Why would they chant 'USA USA' instead of their home teams name, if not to say that the other team was 'unamerican'? It seems to me to be an unfortunate case of teenage belligerent patriotism, something we obviously should not condone.

Having said the above, it doesn't even matter whether the team was foreign, unassimilated, black, white, etc. This type of behavior is never okay.

How is chanting the name of your country racist?

When does chanting the name of your country become not ok in your own country?

If they are foreigners who have immigrated from another country and don't like it then they get the fuck out.

OzmO · « **Reply #19 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:55:11 AM »

Its stupid shit like this is the reason the left gets so vilified.

Grow some balls people.

We have kids chanting USA USA USA!

They weren't chanting WHITE PEOPLE! WHITE PEOPLE! WHITE PEOPLE!

You bunch of weak sauce pussies.

OzmO · « **Reply #20 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:57:04 AM »

BTW you over sensitive immigrants:

NO ONE ASKED YOU COME HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT OR CANT HANDLE PATRIOTISM GET THE FUCK OUT.

OzmO · « **Reply #21 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:57:40 AM »

Rant over.

blacken700 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 07, 2012, 10:58:29 AM »

what,it's not hard to figure out that if your the team that's all white and your chanting usa usa and the other team is from san antonio, probably mostly mexican.your not chanting that because your proud your all americans

Option D · « **Reply #23 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:00:54 AM »

Quote from: OzmO on March 07, 2012, 10:53:39 AM

How is chanting the name of your country racist?

When does chanting the name of your country become not ok in your own country?

If they are foreigners who have immigrated from another country and don't like it then they get the fuck out.

dont get me wrong. Im a True American in the purest sense and im a patroit.

But for example, the school i coached at in East LA was all mexican, and if they played a team from Orange County, in Orange County, and as the game comes down to the final mins and the kids in the crowd is yelling USA USA... especially if their mascot is the bears or lions or some shit, then you know what the fuck is going on. Not to say its worthy of being suspended or some shit, But to act like its just harmless patriotism is bullshit

blacken700 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:02:40 AM »

Quote from: Option D on March 07, 2012, 11:00:54 AM

dont get me wrong. Im a True American in the purest sense and im a patroit.

But for example, the school i coached at in East LA was all mexican, and if they played a team from Orange County, in Orange County, and as the game comes down to the final mins and the kids in the crowd is yelling USA USA... especially if their mascot is the bears or lions or some shit, then you know what the fuck is going on. Not to say its worthy of being suspended or some shit, But to act like its just harmless patriotism is bullshit

thank you