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Re: Jobs Report Nonsense (91k Birth/Death + 40k Part-Time Temps)
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2012, 07:29:27 PM »
Your mom added jobs.

when all else fails to support the neo-terrorist obama - use mom jokes.

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Re: Jobs Report Nonsense (91k Birth/Death + 40k Part-Time Temps)
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2012, 07:30:10 PM »
when all else fails to support the neo-terrorist obama - use mom jokes.

LMFAO!

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Re: Jobs Report Nonsense (91k Birth/Death + 40k Part-Time Temps)
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2012, 07:34:31 PM »
LMFAO!

mother jokes usually go out of style w 8th grade, bit o guess not w Obama dildos

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Re: Jobs Report Nonsense (91k Birth/Death + 40k Part-Time Temps)
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2012, 09:39:08 AM »
BLS 8.3%- Gallup 9.1%- Obama 0%
Townhall.com ^ | March 10, 2012 | Mike Shedlock





Quick Notes About the Unemployment Rate



•In the last year, the civilian population rose by 3,584,000. Yet the labor force only rose by 1,569,000. Those not in the labor force rose by 2,014,000.   

•In February, the Civilian Labor Force rose by 476,000.   

•In February, those "Not in Labor Force" decreased by 310,000. If you are not in the labor force, you are not counted as unemployed. 

•Participation Rate rose .2 to 63.9% 

•Were it not for people dropping out of the labor force, the unemployment rate would be well over 11%.

Over the past several years people have dropped out of the labor force at an astounding, almost unbelievable rate, holding the unemployment rate artificially low. Some of this was due to major revisions last month on account of the 2010 census finally factored in. However, most of it is simply economic weakness.

Jobs Report at a Glance

Here is an overview of today's release.



•US Payrolls +227,000 - Establishment Survey

•US Unemployment Rate steady at 8.3%  - Household Survey

•Average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls was unchanged to 34.5 hours

•The average workweek for production and nonsupervisory employees on private nonfarm payrolls edged higher 0.1 hour to 33.8 hours.

•Average hourly earnings for all employees in the private sector rose by 3 cents to $23.31


Recall that the unemployment rate varies in accordance with the Household Survey not the reported headline jobs number, and not in accordance with the weekly claims data.

February 2012 Jobs Report

Please consider the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) February 2012 Employment Report.

Nonfarm payroll employment rose by 227,000 in February, and the unemployment rate was unchanged at 8.3 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment rose in professional and businesses services, health care and social assistance, leisure and hospitality, manufacturing, and mining.

Unemployment Rate - Seasonally Adjusted



Nonfarm Employment - Payroll Survey - Annual Look - Seasonally Adjusted



Actual employment is about where it was in 2001.

Nonfarm Employment - Payroll Survey - Monthly Look - Seasonally Adjusted



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Between January 2008 and February 2010, the U.S. economy lost 8.8 million jobs.

Over the last two years, nonfarm payrolls have added 3.5 million jobs. Of the 8.8 million net jobs lost between January 2008 and February 2010, 40 percent have been recovered.

Statistically, 127,000 jobs a month is enough to keep the unemployment rate flat. The average employment gain over the last two years has been 145,000, barely enough (statistically speaking) to make a dent in the unemployment rate.

Yet, the civilian unemployment rate has dropped from 9.8% to 8.3%.



Average Weekly Hours



Index of Aggregate Weekly Hours



Average Hourly Earnings vs. CPI



"Success" of QE2 and Operation Twist



•Over the prior 12 months, average hourly earnings have increased by 1.9 percent. In January, the Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) had an over-the-year increase of 2.9 percent; growth in prices has recently been outpacing growth in earnings.   
•Not only are wages rising slower than the CPI, there is also a concern as to how those wage gains are distributed.

BLS Birth-Death Model Black Box

The BLS Birth/Death Model is an estimation by the BLS as to how many jobs the economy created that were not picked up in the payroll survey.

The Birth-Death numbers are not seasonally adjusted while the reported headline number is. In the black box the BLS combines the two coming out with a total.

The Birth Death number influences the overall totals, but the math is not as simple as it appears. Moreover, the effect is nowhere near as big as it might logically appear at first glance.

Do not add or subtract the Birth-Death numbers from the reported headline totals. It does not work that way.

Birth/Death assumptions are supposedly made according to estimates of where the BLS thinks we are in the economic cycle. Theory is one thing. Practice is clearly another as noted by numerous recent revisions.

Birth Death Model Adjustments For 2011



Birth Death Model Adjustments For 2012



Birth-Death Note

Once again: Do NOT subtract the Birth-Death number from the reported headline number. That approach is statistically invalid.

Household Survey Data



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In the last year, the civilian population rose by 3,584,000. Yet the labor force only rose by 1,569,000. Those not in the labor force rose by 2,014,000.

That is an amazing "achievement" to say the least, and as noted above most of this is due to economic weakness not census changes.

Decline in Labor Force Factors



1.Discouraged workers stop looking for jobs
2.People retire because they cannot find jobs
3.People go back to school hoping it will improve their chances of getting a job
4.People stay in school longer because they cannot find a job

Were it not for people dropping out of the labor force, the unemployment rate would be well over 11%.

Part Time Status



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Part-time status shows little improvement vs. a year ago.

Table A-15



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Table A-15 is where one can find a better approximation of what the unemployment rate really is.

Notice I said "better" approximation not to be confused with "good" approximation.

The official unemployment rate is 8.3%. However, if you start counting all the people that want a job but gave up, all the people with part-time jobs that want a full-time job, all the people who dropped off the unemployment rolls because their unemployment benefits ran out, etc., you get a closer picture of what the unemployment rate is. That number is in the last row labeled U-6.

U-6 is much higher at 14.9%. Both numbers would be way higher still, were it not for millions dropping out of the labor force over the past few years.

Grossly Distorted Statistics

Given the complete distortions of reality with respect to not counting people who allegedly dropped out of the work force, it is easy to misrepresent the headline numbers.

Digging under the surface, the drop in the unemployment rate over the past two years is nothing but a statistical mirage. Things are much worse than the reported numbers indicate.

BLS vs. Gallup

Gallup has the unemployment rate at 9.1% not 8.3% and the "underemployment" number at 19.1%, not 14.9%.

Bear in mind the Gallup numbers are not seasonally adjusted but the BLS numbers reported above are. Nonetheless, it's entirely safe to say that 19.1% is far closer to the truth than 14.9%.

Please see Gallup Reports Large Jump in Unemployment to 9.1%, Underemployment to 19.1% for details.

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Re: Jobs Report Nonsense (91k Birth/Death + 40k Part-Time Temps)
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2012, 07:52:31 AM »
ART CASHIN: The Experts I Talk To See Some Major Problems In The Latest Jobs Reports
Sam Ro | 24 minutes ago | 512 | 3


 
The Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) will be wrapping up its meeting today.  Fed watchers don't expect any change in interest rate policy.  But they will be looking for any change in the Fed's language regarding the economy.

Specifically, how will the Fed interpret the latest jobs data? On the headline, the data has been improving.

But some of the experts who Art Cashin has been talking to see some major issues with the current jobs data.

From today's Cashin's Comments:

The Fed, Jobs And The Election - Today’s FOMC meeting will be watched carefully.  The resulting statement will see each sentence diagrammed and each word parsed.  Is the Fed mollified by the recent jobs growth?  Can they risk sitting on their hands?  Will they not be constrained later in the year from taking action, lest they be accused of trying to influence the election?  Do they have a political window here impelling them “to use it or lose it” now?

Then there is the problem of how accurate is the improving jobs picture.  Yesterday, we cited Doug Kass’s interpretation and analysis that temporary jobs and low paying jobs made up almost 70% of the job growth.  Similar analyses are popping up elsewhere.

Even more disturbing to us was word from a friend who subscribes to The King Report.  He says the newsletter says that without the filter of seasonal adjustment, so far in 2012 nearly 1.8 million jobs have been LOST.  Wow!  We’ll try to check that out.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/art-cashin-problems-jobs-2012-3#ixzz1p0bK9FEu


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Re: Jobs Report Nonsense (91k Birth/Death + 40k Part-Time Temps)
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2012, 09:41:34 AM »
And again, check the income tax revenues to the Treasury.

With this runaway recovery and smokin' economy the revenues must be higher and increasing, right?

Well, they aren't.

That's bad fucking news.

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Re: Jobs Report Nonsense (91k Birth/Death + 40k Part-Time Temps)
« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2012, 09:59:39 AM »
i have you figured out, first thing you do is come on call someone a name,your the typ. internet tough guy.when you were in school everyone picked on you because you were a geek,now this is your time to get even behind the security of your keyboard.and to make things worse you have to put a picture of a girl jumping around to prove that your   some kind of ladies man,but in all reality you live at home with your mother  :D :D     how's that pickles [fury] pretty spot on

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Re: Jobs Report Nonsense (91k Birth/Death + 40k Part-Time Temps)
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2012, 11:45:24 PM »
Im sorry, but 200000 jobs a month, almost 3 years AFTER the recession ended is NOTHING to be proud of. We havent even hit the 300000 mark yet
Jan. Jobs: 36,000!!

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Re: Jobs Report Nonsense (91k Birth/Death + 40k Part-Time Temps)
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2012, 01:56:07 AM »
Does anybody know how much the LFP rate increased by?
Jan. Jobs: 36,000!!

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Re: Jobs Report Nonsense (91k Birth/Death + 40k Part-Time Temps)
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2012, 04:02:57 AM »
Does anybody know how much the LFP rate increased by?

It was like .35 or something or some bullshit.

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Re: Jobs Report Nonsense (91k Birth/Death + 40k Part-Time Temps)
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2012, 04:33:28 AM »
You mean .35% right? Does anybody have an absolute number? Last month it decreased by a record of over a million people I believe. Im curious because the unemployment rate stayed the same because of the increase of people entering the labor force. If it wasnt many people re-entering then the UE rate will take a long time to decrease.
Jan. Jobs: 36,000!!

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Re: Jobs Report Nonsense (91k Birth/Death + 40k Part-Time Temps)
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2012, 04:35:12 AM »
You mean .35% right? Does anybody have an absolute number? Last month it decreased by a record of over a million people I believe. Im curious because the unemployment rate stayed the same because of the increase of people entering the labor force. If it wasnt many people re-entering then the UE rate will take a long time to decrease.

Check this out. 

http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-struggles-to-explain-bls-jobs-data-2012-3