Rare photos of early Nasser, 1989

[Sherief Shalaby]

did he tear it in late 83 or early 84? I saw a clip of pre 84 mr O, he had a bandage and was looking way off...

I would've liked to have seen him do well, and taken advantage of a haney slip up

The guy was very good for bbing, presentation, charisma, polished and focused
 Real showman

i read about this accident about 18 years ago!!.. but i think it happened by the end of 84 after the olympia.. because if i remember right this magazine said he was clearly off (carrying water) in 84 so couldn't do well and in 85 he couldn't compete because of that accident.. anyway will check his routine in 84 to see if his left tri was injured or not.. it was a very bad tear and can be seen clearly in all his later shows..

[Sherief Shalaby]

i have just checked it and his left tri was fine in 84 so the accident happened after the contest.. this explains why he didnt compete the following year..

[Figo]

i have just checked it and his left tri was fine in 84 so the accident happened after the contest.. this explains why he didnt compete the following year..

So why the dip in shape from 83 to 84 ?

Haney had improved, but a 83 bannout may have taken it...

[Jaime]

I've been pointing out Nasser's flaws for years and NO ONE told me , it's blatantly obvious if you know how a judge see's a physique and look at him in relation to others on-stage

NOT how it works , the judges look for who has the better overall balance in a physique that means who has a more balance upper/lower body , when you have a long torso and short legs and high lats that becomes obvious when you're standing next to someone who doesn't , it's more desirable in the judges eyes to have great balance & proportion as well as all the other criteria

All of these factors are judged , height , size , muscle length , arm length in relation to torso , leg length in relation to the torso , proportion between all the muscles , where the muscles insert , high calves , high lats , etc , this is all things judges assess when directly comparing guys on-stage among other things like size , symmetry , detail , density , dryness , posing , presentation , who has the least amount of flaws

99.9% of people on this board don't know this , don't care to know it , and only base what they think should win on what they prefer and as I've said countless times NOT HOW IT WORKS , they pick out better parts and claim their hero should win NOT HOW IT WORKS they base who should win on 'aesthetics ' NOT HOW IT WORKS

What you just outlined would constitute aesthetics...

Neither Dorian or Nasser or Ronnie or Jay possess the qualities that the judges supposedly score for lol.

But yes Nasser did have a strange structure that wasn't pleasing, whether his fans care to admit it or not.

[Sherief Shalaby]

So why the dip in shape from 83 to 84 ?

Haney had improved, but a 83 bannout may have taken it...

according to samir he always had a problem with getting rid of water before contests.. this is why he didn't look super hard except few times like in 82 and 83..

[Sherief Shalaby]

still IMO he clearly deserved to win in 82 and to place higher in 84..

[Figo]

still IMO he clearly deserved to win in 82 and to place higher in 84..

He was always water-logged until 82, which was his show

Dickerson shouldve taken it in 81

Interesting how he could never repeat it

[Iceman1981]

check here nasser with dorian legs and dorian with nasser's leg.. do you still see nasser's torso long?!.. no?!.. so again you can't consider them 2 weak points but one..

Dorian looks a little better with Nasser's legs from the front.

[Iceman1981]

one of my very favorites too.. i think if his left triceps was not torn in a car accident and he was able to keep his 82 or 83 condition he was going to be lee haney's runner up for more years than labrada and gaspari.. and could have beat haney when haney was off like in 1990!!..

Samir looked amazing at the 1990 NABBA World Championships. This was probably the last time he was spot on, but Charles Clairmonte beat him out to win.

[Palpatine Q]

I think Nasser's long  torso and thickly developed abs and high lats , coupled with shortish legs, throw off his proportions. his head is big with a thick neck.....there are just structural things about him that take away from his overall look

 Not to say i don't appreciate the amount of muscle he carries,he's HUGE but he doesn't look as huge as he should, if that makes any sense

[Figo]

Samir looked amazing at the 1990 NABBA World Championships. This was probably the last time he was spot on, but Charles Clairmonte beat him out to win.

Was the NABBA show before the O? At the 90 O he looked nothing like that (everyone looked bit off due to testing).
How was he allowed to compete at a NABBA and IFBB show in same year, weiders always clamped down on that...

He does look good there, hamstrings a bit weak, though

[Figo]

Iceman,

Thanks for pics btw, if you have more, please post, bannout, clairmonte!

[ARNIE1947]

[ARNIE1947]

[Jaime]

Why was Yates winning Olympia's while Charles was finishing outside top ten?

Yates has nothing on this build whatsoever.

[Sherief Shalaby]

Dorian looks a little better with Nasser's legs from the front.

very true and if he took nasser's upper body too he would have looked much better

[Shockwave]

very true and if he took nasser's upper body too he would have looked much better

Nassers legs look REALLY stumpy on Dorian.
JMHO.

[Nirvana]

thick waist + skinny legs > narrow waist + thick legs

yes this is what is being argued here, not as a joke either.

[Iceman1981]

Was the NABBA show before the O? At the 90 O he looked nothing like that (everyone looked bit off due to testing).
How was he allowed to compete at a NABBA and IFBB show in same year, weiders always clamped down on that...

He does look good there, hamstrings a bit weak, though

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe he was a former Mr. Olympia and that's why Weider let Samir compete? Yeah, his hams were a bit small from the side.

Arnie posted the video to Samir's and Clairmonte's routines. I have the same videos, but the dimensions are bigger than the youtube version.

[Iceman1981]

A lot of people don't know that Clairmonte beat Flex and Levrone at the 1993 English Grand Prix. He beat 2 runner ups (Kevin in 92' & Flex in 93') to the Mr. Olympia. If I had to choose a physique that I would like to have it would be Clairemont's.

[Figo]

A lot of people don't know that Clairmonte beat Flex and Levrone at the 1993 English Grand Prix. He beat 2 runner ups (Kevin in 92' & Flex in 93') to the Mr. Olympia. If I had to choose a physique that I would like to have it would Clairemont's.

Very overlooked. He wasn't a "name", whilst I'm a labrada and ray fan, and also liked dillet & kevin, clairmonte could easily have taken 3rd instead of 7th, if he had been winning/placing high at NOCs and ACs instead of NABBA shows

While levrone and flex may have let their olympia condition go a bit, it goes to show what a fresh judging panel can do

[Iceman1981]

Very overlooked. He wasn't a "name", whilst I'm a labrada and ray fan, and also liked dillet & kevin, clairmonte could easily have taken 3rd instead of 7th, if he had been winning/placing high at NOCs and ACs instead of NABBA shows

While levrone and flex may have let their olympia condition go a bit, it goes to show what a fresh judging panel can do

Overlooked big time. I'm getting a copy of the 1993 & 1998 Ironman and also the 1993 English Grand Prix. I'll post the pics to those contests.