can an average nobody that is not fat achieve a 315 legit bench without roids?

[mrgut]

What world of weakness do some of you live in? I am a skinny woman boned twink. But when I was 16yrs old and 155lbs 5'9" I benched 300#. I eventually tore my pec twice one being minor the other after I got on roids and attempting a 460+ bench which required surgury.

[Sherief Shalaby]

OK,nobody will believe me but here goes!

I used to train with a black guy I grew up with.........he started training at 14 years old,by the time he was 18-19,he could do cheat curls with 225 for a couple good sets of 5 reps,squat 405 deep for 8 reps or so,do flyes in good form with the 80 pounders,cheat side raises with the 75`s,bench 315 foe a solid 6 reps.

No drugs and was about 5'8" tall,18 inch guns,30 inch thighs,31 inch waist,huge forearms and calves,shitty deltoids and was around 10-12 % bodyfat.

He would carry a dozen hard boiled eggs with him,quarts of milk and OJ,eat tons of food around the clock.

Later he joined the Marines.....came back lighter and weak..............I told him dude never come back looking like that again,fuck boot camp....I had no clue how much they made him run and he did no lifting of course.

Six months or so later,came back just as big and hit 365 on the bench for a triple.


Trained by himself on base in a power rack.

The most dedicated person I ever met......great genetics and a work ethic like I haven`t seen to this day.

He was up at 4 AM jogging,then went to his early AM part time job,then to school,then we`d meet up and train,then he went to his night part time job.

I did find out years later that after a certain period he was taking D-Bol............squatted 525 for a deep 5 reps.

I honestly thought he could be another Sergio or Shawn Ray but he stopped training............won his teen class one year at the New Englands,but Jeff McBride won the overall teen.

great memory wes,.. you still remember things that happened 70 years ago

[OTHstrong]

yes, they are full of shit

a 315 bench by a lifetime natty is very, very rare

we're talking a legit bench here with no bridge or bounce and a slight pause at the chest

315 lifetime natty BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

This thread is fucking ridiculous. I can count on one hand who I've seen benching 315, and they were all fat pieces of shit. Now you guys are under 10 percent but benching 365? 

You mean you guys train at curves

[wes]

great memory wes,.. you still remember things that happened 70 years ago

Of course I remember it,it was a very good part of my life, and far from 70 years ago.

This kid would train anybody I`ve ever seen right into the ground.

If he had never stopped training,I bet he could/would be a household name,that`s how good he was.

No reason to lie about it.

[ritch]

I got the 315 bench after following the program I got in the mail from the mm2k mag way back in the day, "how to increase your bench by 50lbs" Think I was 20 or so, natural, weighed about 200 lbs, was not a fat sack of shit either.

[purenaturalstrength]

I got the 315 bench after following the program I got in the mail from the mm2k mag way back in the day, "how to increase your bench by 50lbs" Think I was 20 or so, natural, weighed about 200 lbs, was not a fat sack of shit either.

so it actually works?

another poster in this topic posted it


my workout partner doesn't really want to try it since training 4 times a week is not going to be possible. he can only do monday wednesday friday routines 

[ritch]

so it actually works?

another poster in this topic posted it


my workout partner doesn't really want to try it since training 4 times a week is not going to be possible. he can only do monday wednesday friday routines 

Worked for me! I followed it to a "T". I usually try to put my own spin on things, but made an exception on this time as I know by body very well for hypertrophy but strength training is not my expertise. S I think the 5x5 program is a 3 day program, known to increase your strength.

But I found the one I did was more friendly to keeping your bodybuilder look and that to me is worth the extra day in the gym. 3 day programs just involve too many groups in one day, just don't do well on them...

[Palpatine Q]

I've seen many guys over the course of my 20 years working out that have been able to not only bench 315 lbs while naturally, but even manage to get 8-10 reps with that weight.

That weight is not all that difficult to move.  If you train for it and progressively increase your weight on the bench via small increments, it is very possible.

"1"

This....315 is no big deal, I know plenty of guys that can put up 315

[purenaturalstrength]

Worked for me! I followed it to a "T". I usually try to put my own spin on things, but made an exception on this time as I know by body very well for hypertrophy but strength training is not my expertise. S I think the 5x5 program is a 3 day program, known to increase your strength.

But I found the one I did was more friendly to keeping your bodybuilder look and that to me is worth the extra day in the gym. 3 day programs just involve too many groups in one day, just don't do well on them...

yeah i've been doing these 3 day programs 5x5

not bad but i seem to have plateaud on pressing movements

[Grape Ape]

so it actually works?

another poster in this topic posted it


my workout partner doesn't really want to try it since training 4 times a week is not going to be possible. he can only do monday wednesday friday routines 

I posted a link to it two pages ago that was ignored.  Yes, it works.

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

yeah i've been doing these 3 day programs 5x5

not bad but i seem to have plateaud on pressing movements

Do you happen to bench bb style, elbows out?

[purenaturalstrength]

Do you happen to bench bb style, elbows out?

i bench to the nipple line or slightly below the nipple line with the elbows under the wrist

[thelamefalsehood]

I posted a link to it two pages ago that was ignored.  Yes, it works.

Thats awesome man. I remember writing Shawn Phillips when I was a teenager and he wrote me back when he sent me back that bench program. I got it out of the old MM2K as well. Dude was really cool and told me what to eat and gave words of encouragement. I was 15 or 16 at the time and me and my buddies all used that program. We all got a lot stronger as well. Really cool!!

[Palpatine Q]

Lot of pussies in this thread...if you were talking 405 I could understand the skepticism.. but 315? How weak are you fucking people.

And Dj181.....shut the fuck up and go take some oxys so you aren't scared to talk to girls....leave the weightlifting talk to real men

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

Lot of pussies in this thread...if you were talking 405 I could understand the skepticism.. but 315? How weak are you fucking people.

And Dj181.....shut the fuck up and go take some oxys so you aren't scared to talk to girls....leave the weightlifting talk to real men

Speaking of pussies, i'd bet you couldn't squat 405 for one, clean rep with those toothpick legs of yours. 

[Grape Ape]

Thats awesome man. I remember writing Shawn Phillips when I was a teenager and he wrote me back when he sent me back that bench program. I got it out of the old MM2K as well. Dude was really cool and told me what to eat and gave words of encouragement. I was 15 or 16 at the time and me and my buddies all used that program. We all got a lot stronger as well. Really cool!!

Thanks.  I am classic ecto with short, shitty muscle bellies.   Did that program and got 315.  Next time 325 and 225 x 18.   Nothing world beating, I know, but it was good for me.

It also worked when I didn't know the correct way to bench, I didn't do the big arch, feet under bench, squeeze the bar tight, "break" the bar on the descent, etc....I think might have been able to do more if I knew that stuff.

Also, if anyone tries it, it's not a BB routine.  It's a routine to get your bench up.   I wouldn't tweak it.

[purenaturalstrength]

I posted a link to it two pages ago that was ignored.  Yes, it works.

hey friend

i am reading this program


it doesn't recommend shortening rom by arching back excessively since any gain will be artificial, not from actual strength increase

however

is it foolish to bench with the feet on the bench while on this program?

[Sherief Shalaby]

Of course I remember it,it was a very good part of my life, and far from 70 years ago.

This kid would train anybody I`ve ever seen right into the ground.

If he had never stopped training,I bet he could/would be a household name,that`s how good he was.

No reason to lie about it.

i believe you.. it was just a joke as if you were very old

[Palpatine Q]

Speaking of pussies, i'd bet you couldn't squat 405 for one, clean rep with those toothpick legs of yours. 

sounds like someone is still struggling with 225, let alone 3 plates 

Epic gook genetics, you are fucked

[DBX]

sounds like someone is still struggling with 225, let alone 3 plates  

are you talking about your self while squating, mr lollipop legs  

[Palpatine Q]

are you talking about your self while squating, mr lollipop legs  

Lets see yours 

[DBX]

Lets see yours  

there about as skinny as yours , i suffer from squatrackphobia too  

[wes]

i believe you.. it was just a joke as if you were very old

Gee thanks!! 

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

sounds like someone is still struggling with 225, let alone 3 plates 

Epic gook genetics, you are fucked

1. Im not jeajonna

2. I can bench 315

3. Your legs look like they haven't seen a barbell in 20 years, so i suggest you drop the tough guy act, "big guy". 

[Palpatine Q]

there about as skinny as yours , i suffer from squatrackphobia too  

Prove it   show me how "skinny" mine are  

And i don't squat anymore, but when I did i could  knock out clean reps with 405