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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #100 on: March 22, 2012, 07:05:36 PM »
Great to hear, Bob. We're pulling for ya.
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #101 on: March 22, 2012, 07:13:07 PM »
How exactly did you get your prostate tested?

Blood work I presume?
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #102 on: March 22, 2012, 07:28:28 PM »
Quote from: Devon97 on March 22, 2012, 07:13:07 PM
How exactly did you get your prostate tested?

Blood work I presume?

Routine PSA test...urine sample, blood.  results should be as close to 0.0 as possible.
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #103 on: March 22, 2012, 07:33:23 PM »
Quote from: Chick on March 22, 2012, 06:00:57 PM
I guess anything is possible...but the bottom line is this...if it did accelerate  the prostate cancer, then it probably saved my life, as my fathers fate was to be mine....my battle with this was much easier and detected early on, as opposed to having to deal with it at a older age.

fuck me bob

that must be the stupidest thing you have said so far, and believe me you have said plenty

beyond everything else that is absurd in that statement,  dont you know that the older you are the slower mitosis/cell replication occurs and so the slower your cancer spreads
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #104 on: March 22, 2012, 07:41:24 PM »
Quote from: slate on March 22, 2012, 07:33:23 PM
fuck me bob

that must be the stupidest thing you have said so far, and believe me you have said plenty

beyond everything else that is absurd in that statement,  dont you know that the older you are the slower mitosis/cell replication occurs and so the slower your cancer spreads

tell that to my father

there was nothing absurd about my statement, if you know what you're talking about.

It's purely a hypothetical at best, but if indeed my cancer was accelerated by my own doing, then it's quite possible that exposing it now has Led to an early treatment and much better prognosis of recovery...

The longer the cancer would have been present in my prostate, the more likely it would been to have spread outside of the prostate and into the vital organs and bone....THATS the difference

Stick to what you know, kid....
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #105 on: March 22, 2012, 07:49:43 PM »
Bob, if I sent you a hundred bucks, could you give me some steroids?
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #106 on: March 22, 2012, 08:21:26 PM »
Great news Bob and I'm happy for you and your family.
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #107 on: March 22, 2012, 08:22:11 PM »
Quote from: Chick on March 22, 2012, 07:28:28 PM
Routine PSA test...urine sample, blood.  results should be as close to 0.0 as possible.
Mine always tests 0.5.
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #108 on: March 22, 2012, 10:28:30 PM »
Good to hear it! I wish the very best for u my friend!!!
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #109 on: March 22, 2012, 10:41:11 PM »
Quote from: Chick on March 22, 2012, 11:15:22 AM
actually, many docs advocate HRT as part of the therapy...I rule nothing out these days.

I've been on HRT for the better part of three years. When my doctor diagnosed my prostate cancer last January, he had me immediately stop the testosterone cypionate injections. Recently, I was advised to stop taking DHEA too.

Incidentally, I had another PSA in February as part of my annual physical exam. In one month after stopping the testosterone cypionate my PSA went from 9.7 to 6.1. I see my urologist in May. I will be scheduling the Da Vinci robotic prostatectomy then. I am anxious to see if my PSA continues to fall between now and then and what he has to say about this.

A couple of years ago, I had a cancerous growth on the bottom of my foot. Most of it was excised at the doctor's office to send to the lab for testing. What remained eventually disappeared and so the planned radiation was deemed unnecessary. That was a really weird situation which my doctors cannot explain to me.
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #110 on: March 23, 2012, 12:18:22 AM »
Thats very very good to hear it. Bob. ;)
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #111 on: March 23, 2012, 12:31:45 AM »
Great to know your well Bob.







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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #112 on: March 23, 2012, 01:10:28 AM »
Quote from: Chick on March 22, 2012, 11:15:22 AM
actually, many docs advocate HRT as part of the therapy...I rule nothing out these days.

say what?! I didn't read the whole thread, but I'd definitely say you aren't going to find many doctors recommending androgens for anyone with prostate cancer. Androgens fuel prostate cancer cell growth. That's why ANTI-androgens are a treatment for prostate cancer. Most docs would be reluctant to even recommend HRT in someone with low testosterone who has a history of prostate cancer. 
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #113 on: March 23, 2012, 01:20:34 AM »
Quote from: Chick on March 22, 2012, 06:00:57 PM
I guess anything is possible...but the bottom line is this...if it did accelerate  the prostate cancer, then it probably saved my life, as my fathers fate was to be mine....my battle with this was much easier and detected early on, as opposed to having to deal with it at a older age.

Sorry to hear about the prostate CA, and I wish you all the best, but I'd say steroids absolutely accelerate prostate cancer, and you could just as easily argue that your prostate cancer may never have manisted itself clinically had you not used steroids. Many prostate cancers are indolent and there are patients we don't even recommend treatment for. With routine PSA screening and minus the steroids your cancer may have ultimately been discovered decades from now at a similarly low-risk stage, but you would have spared yourself all the potential side effects of treatment. Again, I truly wish you all the best, but I think this is one of those areas where steroids actually are bad.
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #114 on: March 23, 2012, 03:38:01 AM »
Quote from: RadOncDoc on March 23, 2012, 01:10:28 AM
say what?! I didn't read the whole thread, but I'd definitely say you aren't going to find many doctors recommending androgens for anyone with prostate cancer. Androgens fuel prostate cancer cell growth. That's why ANTI-androgens are a treatment for prostate cancer. Most docs would be reluctant to even recommend HRT in someone with low testosterone who has a history of prostate cancer. 

Perhaps you should read  it again...

I said POST surgery, not prior to or with the diagnoses of cancer...
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #115 on: March 23, 2012, 03:44:34 AM »
All the best to you Bob, ive had Relations who have had this (and have it) Nasty business all round thankfully you have caught it early cause ive seen first hand what happens to people close to you when you DON'T CATCH it early.
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #116 on: March 23, 2012, 04:42:45 AM »
A pro BBer who i have the utmost respect for, never had a bad word to say about you and hope everything goes to plan. Heres to your health.
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #117 on: March 23, 2012, 05:14:11 AM »
Quote from: Army of One on March 22, 2012, 10:41:51 AM
I mean the way we are living now plus medical science means that in 50 years when the average 40yr old is 90, the quality of life is going to be far greater.Theres even talk that there could be a way to reverse the aging process and live forever (assuming no accidents) within the next 50 years.


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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #118 on: March 23, 2012, 05:59:41 AM »
Pecan Pie at least once a week, preferably a few times a week will prevent Prostate Cancer.  True Story.
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #119 on: March 23, 2012, 07:10:10 AM »
Quote from: Chick on March 22, 2012, 07:28:28 PM
Routine PSA test...urine sample, blood.  results should be as close to 0.0 as possible.

Time I get a check up. I'm 35 and haven't had one since.... HS maybe? :-\
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #120 on: March 23, 2012, 07:22:13 AM »
Quote from: Devon97 on March 23, 2012, 07:10:10 AM
Time I get a check up. I'm 35 and haven't had one since.... HS maybe? :-\

Just say your prayers everyday and you should be fine.
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #121 on: March 23, 2012, 07:50:06 AM »
Bob, u ever take finasteride when taking your test?


Finasteride has been linked to more aggressive prostate cancers...
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #122 on: March 23, 2012, 07:58:07 AM »
Quote from: RadOncDoc on March 23, 2012, 01:10:28 AM
say what?! I didn't read the whole thread, but I'd definitely say you aren't going to find many doctors recommending androgens for anyone with prostate cancer. Androgens fuel prostate cancer cell growth. That's why ANTI-androgens are a treatment for prostate cancer. Most docs would be reluctant to even recommend HRT in someone with low testosterone who has a history of prostate cancer. 

Actually, there are other opinions of the effect of TRT and prostate cancer. Right or wrong, this is an interesting article.

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/dec2008_Destroying-the-Myth-about-Testosterone-Replacement-Prostate-Cancer_01.htm
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #123 on: March 23, 2012, 08:37:05 AM »
Glad to hear the surgery went well.  Wishing you health, happiness and prosperity.
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Re: Bob chick cancer
« Reply #124 on: March 23, 2012, 08:38:23 AM »
are you going to cool down on the steroid abuse after this episode of health problems?
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