Author Topic: I see. Libs only want freedom of speech when it benefits them. Oh the hypocrisy!  (Read 7199 times)

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and if Rush can walk out the front door of the radio station an say the exact same speech then how is he being censored

again, free speech does not mean you have a right to a radio show (and if you disagree that's certainly your perogative)

If Rush loses his radio show he is not losing his free speech and just because I don't have a radio show does not mean I'm being denied free speech

that's about as simple as I can make it for you
Dude........ NO ONE SAID RUSH LOSING HIS SHOW IS LOSING HIS FREE SPEECH.
The point has been the WHOLE TIME, that a 3RD PARTY CANNOT STOP A PRIVATE COMPANY FROM SAYING WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT JUST BECAUSE THEY DONT LIKE IT. Im not going round and round with youre stupid circular logic and what if scenarios.
A 3RD PARTY CANNOT TELL A PRIVATE BUSINESS WHAT A PERSON CAN OR CANNOT SAY ON THEIR AIRWAVES.
They can bitch, complain, pressure the business all they want, but they CANNOT HAVE HIM TAKEN OFF THE AIR from ANYONE BUT THE OWNER OF THE RADIO STATION.

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exactly

and it's fair for Rush to say whatever he wants just like it's fair for people to object and try to get him fired
I SAID THIS RIGHT IN THE BEGINING YOU FUCKING IDIOT!
Youve been arguing shit that never was being disagreed with just because it wasnt exactly how you worded it!!! (Semantics)

1st here -
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The public has the right to bitch, but they have no more right to silence him than he does to silence them.

And then here when you kept arguing the same thing that I wasnt disagreeing with you about

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I just said in an above post that HIS right to speak on the radio show is just as protected as THEIR right to bitch.

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Dude........ NO ONE SAID RUSH LOSING HIS SHOW IS LOSING HIS FREE SPEECH.
The point has been the WHOLE TIME, that a 3RD PARTY CANNOT STOP A PRIVATE COMPANY FROM SAYING WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT JUST BECAUSE THEY DONT LIKE IT. Im not going round and round with youre stupid circular logic and what if scenarios.
A 3RD PARTY CANNOT TELL A PRIVATE BUSINESS WHAT A PERSON CAN OR CANNOT SAY ON THEIR AIRWAVES.
They can bitch, complain, pressure the business all they want, but they CANNOT HAVE HIM TAKEN OFF THE AIR from ANYONE BUT THE OWNER OF THE RADIO STATION.

and a 3rd party is not doing that

all a 3rd parting it doing is running advertisements expressing an opinion

that's it

so why the 3 pages of hysterics about "censorship" ?

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and a 3rd party is not doing that

all a 3rd parting it doing is running advertisements expressing an opinion

that's it

so why the 3 pages of hysterics about "censorship" ?
Its the very definition of censorship.
The advertisement is merely a means to the end - the end is taking Rush off the air because they dont like what he has to say.
I dont give a fuck what their means of accomplishing their goals are - trying to force someone to shut up because they dont like what is being said, is censorship. \
Just running an ad campaign on why not to listen to Limbaugh would be perfectly acceptable.
Running a campaign with the objective of making it so he's no longer speaking on the air is censorship.
Their entire goal is censorship. Again youre arguing a completley different point. How they do it is a whole nother topic - the end result is censorship. They want Limbaugh censored.

Again - It is the very DEFINITION of censorship.

Last time im posting on this. Im done with you arguing non-points and semantics.

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"This is not about women,” said Rachel Nelson, Premiere spokeswoman. “It’s not about ethics and it’s not about the nature of our public discourse. It’s a direct attack on America’s guaranteed First Amendment right to free speech. It’s essentially a call for censorship masquerading as high-minded indignation.”

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Its the very definition of censorship.
The advertisement is merely a means to the end - the end is taking Rush off the air because they dont like what he has to say.
I dont give a fuck what their means of accomplishing their goals are - trying to force someone to shut up because they dont like what is being said, is censorship. \
Just running an ad campaign on why not to listen to Limbaugh would be perfectly acceptable.
Running a campaign with the objective of making it so he's no longer speaking on the air is censorship.
Their entire goal is censorship. Again youre arguing a completley different point. How they do it is a whole nother topic - the end result is censorship. They want Limbaugh censored.

Again - It is the very DEFINITION of censorship.

Last time im posting on this. Im done with you arguing non-points and semantics.

Oh, a quote from the article -


we've already agreed that Rush has no right to a radio show so losing his show is not censorship since he can still freely speak and publish his words

It's BIZARRO that you believe that another group expressing their right to free speech (buying advertising expressing an opinion) is the equivalent of censorship

doesn't someone actually have to be censored by the very definition of of that word?

dude you've crawled way out on a shaky limb here

the best thing for you to do is back up slowly and climb down the tree

tonymctones

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we've already agreed that Rush has no right to a radio show so losing his show is not censorship since he can still freely speak and publish his words

It's BIZARRO that you believe that another group expressing their right to free speech (buying advertising expressing an opinion) is the equivalent of censorship

doesn't someone actually have to be censored by the very definition of of that word?

dude you've crawled way out on a shaky limb here

the best thing for you to do is back up slowly and climb down the tree
LOl its still censorship straw...its not as strong a degree but still censorship.

censorship doesnt mean complete and total removal of a thought. Not letting a thought or speech in a certain arena or platform is censoring that thought.

Fox censor the liberal speech on its network just like MSNBC, ABC, CNN censor the conservative speech on theirs.

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LOl its still censorship straw...its not as strong a degree but still censorship.

censorship doesnt mean complete and total removal of a thought. Not letting a thought or speech in a certain arena or platform is censoring that thought.

Fox censor the liberal speech on its network just like MSNBC, ABC, CNN censor the conservative speech on theirs.

so your argument is that the radio ads by Media Matters are censoring your thoughts and that's the new definition of censorship

I guess Rush is censoring left wing/liberal thoughts on his show

btw

are you serious man?

tonymctones

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so your argument is that the radio ads by Media Matters are censoring your thoughts and that's the new definition of censorship

I guess Rush is censoring left wing/liberal thoughts on his show

btw

are you serious man?
Goodness gracious is this going to be another hypocrisey incident where you don't know the definition of a word?

Am I trying to get my thoughts on media matters?

Does media matters or run let every view point on their website/show? Well then of course they are censoring their website/show...

Post the definition of censor so we all know you at least recognize it even if you dont understand it.

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Goodness gracious is this going to be another hypocrisey incident where you don't know the definition of a word?

Am I trying to get my thoughts on media matters?

Does media matters or run let every view point on their website/show? Well then of course they are censoring their website/show...

Post the definition of censor so we all know you at least recognize it even if you dont understand it.

you believe Media Matter running ad is somehow censoring your thoughts?

an ad running on radio is censoring your thoughts?

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you believe Media Matter running ad is somehow censoring your thoughts?

an ad running on radio is censoring your thoughts?


They are doing it to get rush off the airways - not to engage in debate. 

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They are doing it to get rush off the airways - not to engage in debate. 

don't tell me you believe in "thought censorship" too

come on 333 ?

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don't tell me you believe in "thought censorship" too

come on 333 ?


Not at all - i believe in free speech, the more the better.   

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you believe Media Matter running ad is somehow censoring your thoughts?

an ad running on radio is censoring your thoughts?

Did I say that? Goodness you're a fuking moron...

You can't censor something that isn't there. I'm not trying to get my thoughts on media matters am I? How can thy censor something that isn't there?

Now post the definition of censor so you can look like the deranged morn you are

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Did I say that? Goodness you're a fuking moron...

You can't censor something that isn't there. I'm not trying to get my thoughts on media matters am I? How can thy censor something that isn't there?

Now post the definition of censor so you can look like the deranged morn you are

yeah you kind of did

btw - running an advertisement on the radio is not the same as not talking about something (i.e. Rush not talking about liberal points of view on his show)

the idea of "thought censorship" is hilarious

LOl its still censorship straw...its not as strong a degree but still censorship.

censorship doesnt mean complete and total removal of a thought. Not letting a thought or speech in a certain arena or platform is censoring that thought.

Fox censor the liberal speech on its network just like MSNBC, ABC, CNN censor the conservative speech on theirs.

tonymctones

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yeah you kind of did

btw - running an advertisement on the radio is not the same as not talking about something (i.e. Rush not talking about liberal points of view on his show)

the idea of "thought censorship" is hilarious

Lol what an idiot, not letting a thought(as in expressed thoughts) you moronic fuck, who in there right mind would read that and think thoughts?

Seeing as how you read into definitions what you want I guess it's no surprise...

Was the ad not aimed at getting rush off the radio station/air?

You know why we have different movie ratings straw? Bc the censor out certain content per rating, that doesn't mean that content doesn't exist it's still there just not it that movie.

You don't have to completely remove something for it to be censored, simply not allowing it in a certain arena is censoring it.

Why dont these ppl just not pay attention to him? I swear as many liberals must listen to rush as conservatives going by the amount of ppl that get pissy

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Lol what an idiot, not letting a thought(as in expressed thoughts) you moronic fuck, who in there right mind would read that and think thoughts?

Seeing as how you read into definitions what you want I guess it's no surprise...

Was the ad not aimed at getting rush off the radio station/air?

You know why we have different movie ratings straw? Bc the censor out certain content per rating, that doesn't mean that content doesn't exist it's still there just not it that movie.

You don't have to completely remove something for it to be censored, simply not allowing it in a certain arena is censoring it.

Why dont these ppl just not pay attention to him? I swear as many liberals must listen to rush as conservatives going by the amount of ppl that get pissy

And, now you have liberals on MSNBC, attaching Rush (and the GOP candidates) to the death of that boy in Florida.

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And, now you have liberals on MSNBC, attaching Rush (and the GOP candidates) to the death of that boy in Florida.

Arguing with liberals is pointless.   They are beyond reason and sense in almost all respects.   

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Lol what an idiot, not letting a thought(as in expressed thoughts) you moronic fuck, who in there right mind would read that and think thoughts?

Seeing as how you read into definitions what you want I guess it's no surprise...

Was the ad not aimed at getting rush off the radio station/air?
You know why we have different movie ratings straw? Bc the censor out certain content per rating, that doesn't mean that content doesn't exist it's still there just not it that movie.

You don't have to completely remove something for it to be censored, simply not allowing it in a certain arena is censoring it.

Why dont these ppl just not pay attention to him? I swear as many liberals must listen to rush as conservatives going by the amount of ppl that get pissy


the ad itself does not in any way censor Rush (and doesn't censor your thoughts either)

If the owner chooses to remove him from a station that's the owners (or station manager or whoever) choice and he has every right to do that

It's not censorship

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Just think if they did get Rush off the air. What will the libs listen too then? He does have the highest liberal audience of anyone on the radio. BTW, Straw...give it up and quit trying to defend your lame ass party. They should be dismantled.

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tonymctones

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the ad itself does not in any way censor Rush (and doesn't censor your thoughts either)

If the owner chooses to remove him from a station that's the owners (or station manager or whoever) choice and he has every right to do that

It's not censorship

The definition of censor disagrees with you but dont let facts get in the way you dumb ass...

while youre looking up the definition of censor, look up hypocrisey too ::)

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The definition of censor disagrees with you but dont let facts get in the way you dumb ass...

while youre looking up the definition of censor, look up hypocrisey too ::)


which definition is that - the one you made up about "thought censorship"

btw - you should learn to spell or at least use spell check

let's do a quick review

Medial Matters is going to run radio ad's as described in the article:

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The ads use Limbaugh’s own words about student Sandra Fluke, who told congressional Democrats that contraception should be paid for in health plans. Limbaugh, on his radio programs, suggested Fluke wanted to be paid to have sex, which made her a “slut” and a “prostitute.” In return for the money, he said Fluke should post videos of herself having sex. Under sharp criticism, Limbaugh later apologized.

In one of the anti-Limbaugh ads, listeners are urged to call the local station that carries Limbaugh to say “we don’t talk to women like that” in our city.

That the HUGE CENSORSHIP that everyone is bitching about except that not one word of Rush is being censored and if the station manager/owner/ etc... chooses to remove him from the air then that is not censorship either because that is the owners prerogative at any time

If you want to talk about hypocrisy let's talk about Rush saying Fluke had no right to testify before Congress when she and every other citizen have that right and yet Rush is bitching when someone objects to his words. 






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which definition is that - the one you made up about "thought censorship"

btw - you should learn to spell or at least use spell check

let's do a quick review

Medial Matters is going to run radio ad's as described in the article:

That the HUGE CENSORSHIP that everyone is bitching about except that not one word of Rush is being censored and if the station manager/owner/ etc... chooses to remove him from the air then that is not censorship either because that is the owners prerogative at any time

If you want to talk about hypocrisy let's talk about Rush saying Fluke had no right to testify before Congress when she and every other citizen have that right and yet Rush is bitching when someone objects to his words. 
why dont you do your own research and post the definition here like I requested?

if your so sure...LMFAO