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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 03:32:48 PM » |
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Heeee's baaack  ! I wouldn't say he is back. It's a start though. I honestly think he will stuggle to beat Jack's record for majors now. |
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 03:38:08 PM » |
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I wouldn't say he is back. It's a start though. I honestly think he will stuggle to beat Jack's record for majors now.
He's been placing high right up on the leader board and even coming close to winning in several tournaments this year, it was just a matter of time. His confidence is flying right now and I'm sure the rest of his peers who thought is was over and didn't give him a second thought anymore are thinking twice. Granted he's one of the biggest assholes on the face of the planet but arguably the greatest golfer to ever play the game. He's like the Ty Cobb of golf..LOL. |
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 03:38:36 PM » |
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I wouldn't say he is back. It's a start though. I honestly think he will stuggle to beat Jack's record for majors now.
the only thing that'll stop tiger is injuries. can't wait til he's back to wiping the floor with everyone a LOT of people in golf with very short memories ! |
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 03:44:22 PM » |
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the only thing that'll stop tiger is injuries. can't wait til he's back to wiping the floor with everyone a LOT of people in golf with very short memories ! The Masters will be interesting! |
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 03:45:45 PM » |
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So he is back to fuckin all the whores?
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 03:46:26 PM » |
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The Masters will be interesting!
Dear Coach, Think enforce you post. Sincerely, The board |
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 03:52:20 PM » |
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Dear Coach,
Think enforce you post.
Sincerely,
The board
the fuck are you talking about? |
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 03:53:54 PM » |
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the fuck are you talking about?
Winning one tournament, one without the best talent, is hardly proof of anything |
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2012, 03:54:45 PM » |
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He's been placing high right up on the leader board and even coming close to winning in several tournaments this year, it was just a matter of time. His confidence is flying right now and I'm sure the rest of his peers who thought is was over and didn't give him a second thought anymore are thinking twice. Granted he's one of the biggest assholes on the face of the planet but arguably the greatest golfer to ever play the game. He's like the Ty Cobb of golf..LOL.
hes not arguably the greatest, hes the greatest plain and simple. no one has ever played the game with the kind of skill tiger has. |
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2012, 04:02:16 PM » |
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Winning one tournament, one without the best talent, is hardly proof of anything
Really? Besides McIllroy tell me who's missing from this leader board? This was Arnold Palmer Invatational......freaki ng everyone was there. http://www.pgatour.com/r/leaderboard/So his 72nd tour win doesn't mean shit..right? |
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2012, 04:04:22 PM » |
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hes not arguably the greatest, hes the greatest plain and simple. no one has ever played the game with the kind of skill tiger has.
Greatest skill? Yes. Greatest ever? He has to win the most majors first. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2012, 04:12:00 PM » |
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Greatest skill? Yes. Greatest ever? He has to win the most majors first.
I personally don't think so. Way back when Jack Nicklaus won all of those majors and tournaments there wasn't nearly the amount of tournament nor was there a whole lot of competition back then. Look at what we have now. Tournaments every weekend all around the world. PGA, PGA European tour, Asian tour, Champions tour (they are still eligible for the regular tour, The Nationwide. There are tournaments every week and Tiger has been challenged and beat almost everyone from each one of those tours....72 times not including majors. Yes...he's the greatest player bar none to ever play. |
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2012, 04:16:04 PM » |
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Greatest skill? Yes. Greatest ever? He has to win the most majors first.
bullshit. quality beats quantity. running back with the most yards per carry is better than the one with the most total yards. quarterback with the highest completion percentage and lowest interceptions is better than the one with the most completions, yards and touchdowns. pitcher with the lowest ERA is better than the pitcher with the most wins. Batter with the highest batting percentage is better than the one with the most hits. basketball player with the highest 3 point percentage is better than the one with the most 3 pointers. |
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2012, 04:18:03 PM » |
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Coach, first we are comparing apples to oranges. Different eras. Had Jack been pushed by Johnny Miller and Tom Watson for a longer period of time, maybe Jack would have pushed himself to the limit, instead of being the awesome family man he was/is.
You also say that the competition wasn't as good back then. Uhhhh....Palmer, Trevino, Watson, Zoeller, Irwin, Faldo (prior to 1986 he was a pro), Greg Norman, etc. All Hall of Famers.
Secondly, take a look at the amount of times Jack finished second (especially in Majors). He was always in contention. A few putts here and there, and Jack is untouchable.
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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2012, 04:18:47 PM » |
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bullshit. quality beats quantity. running back with the most yards per carry is better than the one with the most total yards. quarterback with the highest completion percentage and lowest interceptions is better than the one with the most completions, yards and touchdowns. pitcher with the lowest ERA is better than the pitcher with the most wins. Batter with the highest batting percentage is better than the one with the most hits. basketball player with the highest 3 point percentage is better than the one with the most 3 pointers.
Would Michael Jordan be considered the best if he never won a title? |
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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2012, 04:26:25 PM » |
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Would Michael Jordan be considered the best if he never won a title?
i dont watch basketball so i have no idea if jordan had tremendous skill outside of being super clutch in the play offs. your asking the wrong person. the point is that qualitative statistics(%'s) outweigh quantitative(sum total) ones. that being said, you really need to be a golfer, and have watched tiger play, to understand his pre eminence. his intentionality on the course is unrivaled. the kind of shots he hits. slicing a fairway wood out of the rough around a group of trees uphill about 275 yards to the front of a green he could not see from where he had to hit his shot... etc. |
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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2012, 04:38:43 PM » |
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What are qualitative statistics  |
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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2012, 04:38:59 PM » |
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Tbombz, you ever seen Nicklaus' famous 1 iron?
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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2012, 04:43:44 PM » |
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Tiger Woods Ya'll! I knew he'd come back. He's finally getting his head straightened out. Did you see how he looks now? That's right bitches he's back on the gh. |
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2012, 04:47:06 PM » |
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Tbombz, you ever seen Nicklaus' famous 1 iron?
Jack was great but he didnt play the game like tiger did(does) |
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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2012, 04:48:09 PM » |
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tiger just needs to go back to doubling down those paid girls. get his swagger back.
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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2012, 04:49:02 PM » |
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Jack was great but he didnt play the game like tiger did(does) Considering Jack played persimmon and steel shafts in his woods, how could he play like Tiger? Yeah, Tiger is currently hitting a 2 iron, but it is a huge cavity back, something that Jack NEVER had in his bag. Pure blades with almost zero bounce. I am not taking away from Tiger's greatnes, but until he has more Majors, he is the 2nd best player to ever play the game. |
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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2012, 04:54:32 PM » |
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IMO Tiger is the greatest golfer to play to the game. As coach said, Golf has come a long way since Nicklaus played and the competition is much stiffer. Also the difficulty of courses now is unreal. These guys are playing longer courses, with narrower fairways, and counter tops for greens. I think Tiger will break Nicklaus' record and like Brad said, people are quick to forget how good Tiger is.
I didn't realize there were guys on this board into Golf. I worked at a private club for 7 years not far from where Shinnecock is on Long Island. Prior to the bodybuilding I could play to a 10-12 handicap... nothing crazy, but could have fun and be competitive with it.
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2012, 04:54:53 PM » |
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well yes and no. new clubs are certainly easier to hit and give extra distance. but those old school clubs were players clubs. much easier to shape your shots with those blades. you have to fight against cavity backs, theyre too damn forgiving.
tigers greatness isnt about his consistancy or distance, which the new clubs increase, its about the shots he was able to hit when he needed to hit them. hes never been very consistant, his fairway percentage is pretty abismall relatively speaking, and hes never been the longest hitter on tour. but he can save par from anywhere on the course, no matter how much shape he has to put on the ball, no matter how much spin he has to give it, no matter how well guarded the green, no matter how hard of a read it is to the hole.. tiger is a beast.
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