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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #175 on: April 12, 2012, 10:54:02 AM »
the police report.... i dunno...

police chief resigned.  state & federal investigations underway because they both deemed this small town police investigation to have too many anomalies.

lead investigator wanted to charge murder - but the chief and local prosecutor rushed in late on a sunday night (possibly after a call from zimm's judge dad) to shut down the investigation.

So I dont know if that police report - an account based solely upon the words of zimm, with all the motive in the world to lie - is that credible.

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #176 on: April 12, 2012, 10:57:55 AM »
The entire State of Florida should hold their head in shame over this prosecution by public perception.

Eric Holder and his minions are a goddamn disgrace to justice in this country.

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #177 on: April 12, 2012, 11:06:42 AM »
Referencing the "police report" as a factual document. . .  even the King laughs at such naivete.
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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #178 on: April 12, 2012, 11:19:26 AM »
Even in todays appearance in court, with crystal clear video, zimmerlie has no scars, no visual damage from his "life & death" beating.  Everything he says is a lie. Everything. If my life were at stake, I would lie too.
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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #179 on: April 12, 2012, 11:20:09 AM »
At his current bodyweight, trayVon would have murdered zimmerman by caving his face in with his bare hands



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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #180 on: April 12, 2012, 11:20:18 AM »
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The fuck is wrong with you Adam???  Don't play that stupid redneck shit up here.
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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #181 on: April 12, 2012, 11:21:38 AM »
i believe he sustained a bloody nose and a bump on back of head - from getting punched in face, and falling down and hitting his head.

which mean it's weak as hell, but he could claim he feared for life, and shot.

HOWEVER - his lying ass exaggerating shit to police was why he was charged.  let's see - despite the fact it was a 10 r 15 second struggle by all 911 reports, he claimed he was smashed head against sidewalk for 60 seconds (inconsistent with injuries and call).  He claimed trayvon said "you're going to die tonight" - which none of the recordings got, even though they heard everything else.

he TRIED to deliver the 4 tenets of a perfectly legal shoot - "I was about to pass out", "He said he was going to kill me", "I'd taken a crazy beating and feared for my life", and "he was about to take my gun".

All 4 and you have a legal shoot.  The evidence shows he sure didn't have those 4.  And instead of just saying "hey, I got punched and hit my head, he pinned me, I got scared and yell for 8 seconds, then shot", which was the TRUTH - he decided to embellish.

And when you kill someone, prosecutors hate smoe exaggerating ass MFers.  So he might go to prison for exaggerating and bullshitting.  People do it all the time after shoots, and they go to jail for it.  Tell the police the truth, a-hole.

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #182 on: April 12, 2012, 11:22:27 AM »
At his current bodyweight, trayVon would have murdered zimmerman by caving his face in with his bare hands




The killer is definitely going for symmetry as opposed to mass. Good idea? I'm not too sure.
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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #183 on: April 12, 2012, 11:23:24 AM »
Does anyone know if his legal defense fund is still up?   


 

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #184 on: April 12, 2012, 11:29:21 AM »

The fuck is wrong with you Adam???  Don't play that stupid redneck shit up here.
You are good people my friend.  It doesn`t apply to you at all.

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #185 on: April 12, 2012, 11:35:27 AM »
you can see SHAQUANDA in the back ground giving zimmerman the Oh no you didnt modafuka look

 





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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #186 on: April 12, 2012, 11:36:14 AM »

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #187 on: April 12, 2012, 11:40:09 AM »
Yeah, you're one of the "good ones". He just hates "the bad ones." Just know your place and don't be uppity.

Goodrum never been uppity towards Adonis.

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #188 on: April 12, 2012, 11:40:41 AM »
Yeah, you're one of the "good ones". He just hates "the bad ones." Just know your place and don't be uppity.

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #189 on: April 12, 2012, 11:50:50 AM »
Just provide proof of injury. His nose was broken and his head was smashed on the pavement. Photos or a medical report and this would have never happened. Photos or a medical report and it all goes away. This could have been presented to the public over a month ago before he was charged. He wasn't assaulted you dumb fucks. No reason to not make public proof of the injuries he supposed sustained after being attacked. He was not charged. For over a fucking month they had the opportunity to shut everybody the Fuck up. So where is it team racist of getbig? Explain why that is? No Jessie, no sharpton, no protests if they only had provided proof. Not only is there no proof but there was a cover up by the police department. Which apparently has happened before. Care to explain why the chief of police resigned when it was announced that the feds were going to investigate? Want proof racism and police corruption still exist in america in 2012? Here it is, and it will be a fucking televised circus. Instead of blaming the blacks for all this maybe you should consider that Zimmerman, his father and all the rest of their cronies including the police department which tried to cover up that a murder took place is responsible. They are the reason you'll be bitching for the next year or two about how tired you are hearing about race and the tension between whites and blacks on tv non stop. Enjoy.

Yeah, you're one of the "good ones". He just hates "the bad ones." Just know your place and don't be uppity.

You've done good work in this thread, kid.  8)
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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #190 on: April 12, 2012, 12:00:55 PM »
To all you people carrying a concealed gun. Always remember to also carry a shank in your sock to plant on the perp ;) Also wouldn't hurt to stab yourself in the leg after you shoot.

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #191 on: April 12, 2012, 12:14:44 PM »
The prosecutors must prove Zimmerman's shooting of Martin was rooted in hatred or ill will and counter his claims that he shot Martin to protect himself while patrolling his gated community in the Orlando suburb of Sanford. Zimmerman's lawyers would only have to prove by a preponderance of evidence – a relatively low legal standard – that he acted in self-defense at a pretrial hearing to prevent the case from going to trial.

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #192 on: April 12, 2012, 12:16:57 PM »
Does anyone know if his legal defense fund is still up?   

At Last. A good question. Anyone?

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #193 on: April 12, 2012, 12:19:30 PM »
At Last. A good question. Anyone?

http://therealgeorgezimmerman.com/

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #194 on: April 12, 2012, 12:21:51 PM »
At Last. A good question. Anyone?

Yes. zimmercrumb's website is taking donations. Here is the link:

tommywishbone@hotmail.com/moneymoneymoney

We they accept cash too.
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Re: BREAKING: George ZImmerman to be charged
« Reply #195 on: April 12, 2012, 12:22:26 PM »
Whatever way you want to cut it, shooting someone when engaged is a simple altercation is a hugely cowardly bitch move.

Far better world with idiots like Zim Zim behind bars.
Have you ever had a fight with a balck man?  It breaks down like this  

A.  You knock him out and he gets a gun and shoots you

B.  You knock him out and he comes back with his friends and jumps you

C. And this is the most likely scenerio   He jumps you with 7 freinds right off the hop and steals your wallet and car keys.  

There is a reason balcks are profiled.  THEY DESERVE IT  


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Re: BREAKING: George ZImmerman to be charged
« Reply #196 on: April 12, 2012, 12:24:12 PM »
Have you ever had a fight with a balck man?  It breaks down like this  

A.  You knock him out and he gets a gun and shoots you

B.  You knock him out and he comes back with his friends and jumps you

C. And this is the most likely scenerio   He jumps you with 7 freinds right off the hop and steals your wallet and car keys.  

There is a reason balcks are profiled.  THEY DESERVE IT  

Son, what in the blue blazes are you talking about?
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Re: BREAKING: George ZImmerman to be charged
« Reply #197 on: April 12, 2012, 12:26:29 PM »
Son, what in the blue blazes are you talking about?
Im saying they cant fiight fair and zimmerman did what he had to do to protect his family and himself    th end

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #198 on: April 12, 2012, 12:28:27 PM »
Prosecutor's quandary: Zimmerman may be indicted, then acquitted

By Alan M. Dershowitz , Special to CNN

updated 11:37 AM EDT, Wed April 11, 2012



Editor's note: Alan Dershowitz is the Felix Frankfurter professor of law at Harvard Law School.

(CNN) -- On the basis of the evidence currently in the public record, one likely outcome of the case against George Zimmerman is a mixed one: There may be sufficient evidence for a reasonable prosecutor to indict him for manslaughter, but there may also be doubt sufficient for a reasonable jury to acquit him.

Any such predictions should be accepted with an abundance of caution, however, because the evidence known to the special prosecutor, but not to the public, may paint a different picture. It may be stronger or weaker.

Media reports suggest that police found Zimmerman with grass stains on the back of his shirt, bloody bruises on the back of his head and other indicia that may support his contention that Trayvon Martin was banging his head against the ground when Zimmerman shot him.

 
Alan DershowitzWe don't know what Martin's body or clothing show, other than the fatal bullet wound. If there are no comparable bruises or grass stains and if the bullet wound and powder residue establish that the gun was fired at very close range, this too might support a claim of self-defense.

Then there is a recorded cry for help, which, if it turns out to be the voice of Martin, would undercut the defense -- if the voice analysis passes scientific muster and is deemed admissible into evidence.

There may be additional forensic evidence -- or witnesses -- of which we are now unaware, though it is unlikely there is a "smoking gun."

Finally, there is the overarching and historically painful reality that an unarmed black teenager lies dead at the hand of an armed Hispanic man who ignored a dispatcher's advice not to follow and engage the "suspect," and who may have -- and this too is forensically unclear -- uttered a racial epithet while chasing him.

These "facts" give rise to several possible scenarios of what may actually have occurred on that dark rainy night. Under the Florida self-defense statute, it matters greatly what happened, most especially who "initially provoke[d] the use of force," and who started the physical encounter.

If Zimmerman initially provoked the deadly encounter, then he cannot invoke any "stand your ground" defense. He would then be under a legal obligation to "exhaust ... every reasonable means to escape."

Though this statute is anything but a model of clarity, it does suggest that whoever "provokes" a deadly encounter has a heavy burden of justification in claiming self-defense. But the statute doesn't define "provokes," and that ambiguous word may hold the key to the outcome of this tragic case.

If provocation is limited to a physical assault, and if Zimmerman's account that Martin blindsided him with a punch is believed, then Zimmerman did not provoke the encounter. But if provocation includes following the victim and harassing him, then Zimmerman may well qualify as a provocateur. Moreover, a jury may believe that Zimmerman started the physical confrontation by grabbing Martin. This would almost certainly constitute provocation.

But to complicate matters further, even a provocateur has the legal right to defend himself under Florida law if he can't escape and if he is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm, as Zimmerman claims he was.

All this goes to show how factually driven this case is under Florida law. And we don't yet know all the facts. The special prosecutor, who has said she will not use a grand jury to decide whether to indict Zimmerman, has an obligation to consider all the evidence and to apply the law to the facts.

All she needs in order to indict is probable cause that a crime has been committed. A jury that ultimately decides whether the defendant is guilty needs much more: proof beyond a reasonable doubt. But what if a prosecutor concludes that there is both probable cause and a reasonable doubt?

That is the nightmare scenario that this prosecutor may well face. In ordinary circumstances, most prosecutors would not bring such a case, because it would be a waste of resources to indict someone who will probably be acquitted. But this is anything but a run-of-the-mill case.

Moreover, the Florida statute provides an additional layer of protection to a defendant claiming self-defense: A judge must decide whether the defendant is "immune from prosecution," that is, if the judge believes his actions fall under the law of self-defense.

So the following mixed outcome is certainly possible: The special prosecutor indicts; the judge does or doesn't grant immunity; if he doesn't, the jury acquits.

Many people would be unhappy with such a mixed outcome, but it is not the job of the law to make people happy.

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Re: Zimmerman - to be charged (Add: Zimm has left Florida)
« Reply #199 on: April 12, 2012, 12:29:27 PM »
Zimmerman looks like Jalen Rose.