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Author Topic: Addressing and amending certain "truths" from the steroid section  (Read 4663 times)
Glass Gorilla
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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2012, 12:02:55 PM »

i truly do not believe tren ace is necessary for off season.

i most likely will never compete again, because my days have become 9-5 in an office and then EOD marriage counseling after work, with an inordinate emphasis on my steroid use (i have truly been painted the villain by every professional because i have been open about my hormone use). but  i maintain 225 @ under 6% by following my instincts and learning from the mistakes in my past hormone usage. i take big stacks, but i am hyper aware of every element in the stack. i do not just throw anything i can into the syringe and shoot. i think about every single hormone and ask myself why i am using it and if the dose is too high or low, and why.

and for these reasons  i don't use tren ace whatsoever for a good part of the year. i understand if you do use it all year round. there is no black and white answer here. i do not. some may. i happen to not like to use tren ace year round.

nosleep has a very good post about this somewhere out there on this board. he writes about not taking tren ace for the entirety of the year, and lays out his opinions very concisely. maybe sleep can share that again here.

^I'm really sorry to hear that man. It's unbelievable how steroid usage is demonized in this country. Especially while there's plenty of drugs that do even more harm and are perfectly legal (read: alcohol). And I'm sure not one of those professionals has done any real research about steroid use, it's all media scare tactics. Good luck with your situation man.
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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2012, 12:31:13 PM »

^I'm really sorry to hear that man. It's unbelievable how steroid usage is demonized in this country. Especially while there's plenty of drugs that do even more harm and are perfectly legal (read: alcohol). And I'm sure not one of those professionals has done any real research about steroid use, it's all media scare tactics. Good luck with your situation man.

Thank you. I'm learning that the most mature way to handle this is to keep my mouth closed and my chin up. Once I stopped fighting and started just listening I made some headway. This does not mean my beliefs
Have changed. It does mean I am no longer announcing my beliefs with a loud speaker.

And my injection protocols have gotten a lot more intricate and a lot sneakier. One day I won't have to do this, but for right now I have priorities and hormone use is not my priority (although I will be injecting hormones until I am very old. I already managed to knock a girl up on 1400 mg of tren ace and a shit load of masteron and test and orals, so I just don't have to worry about my balls anymore. One kid is enough. And I'm sure if I wanted another I could do it based on the fact that I impregnated someone on 4.5 grams of
Gear and no hcg. I am sure On a bridge w HCG I would be impregnating woman without penetration.. Telepathically.)
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Glass Gorilla
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« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2012, 12:38:00 PM »

Thank you. I'm learning that the most mature way to handle this is to keep my mouth closed and my chin up. Once I stopped fighting and started just listening I made some headway. This does not mean my beliefs
Have changed. It does mean I am no longer announcing my beliefs with a loud speaker.

And my injection protocols have gotten a lot more intricate and a lot sneakier. One day I won't have to do this, but for right now I have priorities and hormone use is not my priority (although I will be injecting hormones until I am very old. I already managed to knock a girl up on 1400 mg of tren ace and a shit load of masteron and test and orals, so I just don't have to worry about my balls anymore. One kid is enough. And I'm sure if I wanted another I could do it based on the fact that I impregnated someone on 4.5 grams of
Gear and no hcg. I am sure On a bridge w HCG I would be impregnating woman without penetration.. Telepathically.)

Yea sometimes not saying anything can be better than vehemently defending yourself. It's an uphill battle unfortuneately.


So are you going to tell us how you did in your fucking show or what? haha
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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2012, 12:40:03 PM »

Yea sometimes not saying anything can be better than vehemently defending yourself. It's an uphill battle unfortuneately.


So are you going to tell us how you did in your fucking show or what? haha

I couldn't do the show!! I am not allowed
To compete! I hate to say that, but if I had competed on 3.31 instead of going to CT w my fiancée and her parents, I would NEVER have seen her again without the courts getting involved

Even my own mother who has been my number one supporter through my bodybuildig
And fitness career, from ford in 07-09 to winning natural competitions on haladrol, even she told me I would be a "child" if I went and competed.

You guys have to understand I am fighting to have my kid in my life in 7 months. And the BIG issue is my steroid use. This is why her father pulled her from me. And this is why she came
Back. Because I stopped proclaiming to the family and counselor that hormones will
B in my life
Forever.

Now I keep my mouth shut and my head
High and I just go to work every morning and I think everything may work out.

However I am
No
Pro . And I never will be now
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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2012, 12:43:52 PM »

The situation sucks bro, iread about it in your other posting

I wish you the best of luck

Also, great post as always smoof
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Glass Gorilla
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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2012, 12:50:35 PM »

I couldn't do the show!! I am not allowed
To compete! I hate to say that, but if I had competed on 3.31 instead of going to CT w my fiancée and her parents, I would NEVER have seen her again without the courts getting involved

Even my own mother who has been my number one supporter through my bodybuildig
And fitness career, from ford in 07-09 to winning natural competitions on haladrol, even she told me I would be a "child" if I went and competed.

You guys have to understand I am fighting to have my kid in my life in 7 months. And the BIG issue is my steroid use. This is why her father pulled her from me. And this is why she came
Back. Because I stopped proclaiming to the family and counselor that hormones will
B in my life
Forever.

Now I keep my mouth shut and my head
High and I just go to work every morning and I think everything may work out.

However I am
No
Pro . And I never will be now

Ah okay I didn't know if you did it or not. Gotta have your priorities though, man. I hope your whole custody/fiancee situation works out well  Smiley

In the meantime keep dispursing your knowledge here on getbig!  Tongue
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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2012, 12:58:50 PM »

good post very informative and i believe that disagreements and intelligent discourse is necessary for us to learn and grow as a community, i like getbig but one thing that almost shocked me when i first came here was the prevalence of certain "steroid truths" like you said smoof and no one wants to try something different or put in a bit more thought than just "more tren more gh", very good post
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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2012, 01:03:19 PM »

Ah okay I didn't know if you did it or not. Gotta have your priorities though, man. I hope your whole custody/fiancee situation works out well  Smiley

In the meantime keep dispursing your knowledge here on getbig!  Tongue

Will try. Unfortunately we are at somewhat of
A rock bottom in terms of reliable generic Gh. This has me
Concerned. I do hope this is resolved soon.

I will continue making my posts and giving and receiving advice here,
But I am not 225 and 5 percent without Gh. I am more like 215 and 6.5 percent, at the max 218.

I do hope this is resolved soon.
Because I do not trust much generic
Out there
Now, as per recent develoPmemta this week that I am
Sure
Everyone has noticed (vacation)
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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2012, 01:20:07 PM »

Excellent post. Very helpful! Sorry to hear about your situation. One of my biggest fears is facing the day I have to choose between family, and my addiction to this lifestyle! It takes a big man(no pun intended) to make the choices you made! I hope it all works out!
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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2012, 01:42:48 PM »

I couldn't do the show!! I am not allowed
To compete! I hate to say that, but if I had competed on 3.31 instead of going to CT w my fiancée and her parents, I would NEVER have seen her again without the courts getting involved

Even my own mother who has been my number one supporter through my bodybuildig
And fitness career, from ford in 07-09 to winning natural competitions on haladrol, even she told me I would be a "child" if I went and competed.

You guys have to understand I am fighting to have my kid in my life in 7 months. And the BIG issue is my steroid use. This is why her father pulled her from me. And this is why she came
Back. Because I stopped proclaiming to the family and counselor that hormones will
B in my life
Forever.

Now I keep my mouth shut and my head
High and I just go to work every morning and I think everything may work out.

However I am
No
Pro . And I never will be now

You made the right choice, as Laurence Fishbourne said in boyz in the hood: "Any fool with a dick can get a woman pregnant, but only a real man can raise a child"  Grin

I'm 25 as well, had my first boy in May 2011 and my girl is expecting again in 7ish months. It completely changes your perspective on life for the better.
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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2012, 02:08:46 PM »

You made the right choice, as Laurence Fishbourne said in boyz in the hood: "Any fool with a dick can get a woman pregnant, but only a real man can raise a child"  Grin

I'm 25 as well, had my first boy in May 2011 and my girl is expecting again in 7ish months. It completely changes your perspective on life for the better.

Fishbourne's daughter no does Porn. so your point  Grin

So Smoof, how did the show go?  Any pics from the show?
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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2012, 02:09:14 PM »

Excellent post. Very helpful! Sorry to hear about your situation. One of my biggest fears is facing the day I have to choose between family, and my addiction to this lifestyle! It takes a big man(no pun intended) to make the choices you made! I hope it all works out!

I had to do this last year and I got someone to photoshop my bloodwork results so I can have both. It got resolved beautifully at least for now
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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2012, 02:09:50 PM »

Fishbourne's daughter no does Porn. so your point  Grin

So Smoof, how did the show go?  Any pics from the show?

lol  Grin
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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2012, 02:12:09 PM »



I do hope this is resolved soon.
Because I do not trust much generic
Out there
Now, as per recent develoPmemta this week that I am
Sure
Everyone has noticed (vacation)

I died a little inside when I saw that. I had planed to pick up 10 kits for the summer. Now... I will probly go without Hgh.
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« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2012, 02:13:26 PM »

I had to do this last year and I got someone to photoshop my bloodwork results so I can have both. It got resolved beautifully at least for now

like a true addict!! no offense!! I would probably try to do the same thing. so far my g/f is okay with my use. she supports it to the best of her ability, but that doesnt last forever!!
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« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2012, 02:24:50 PM »

like a true addict!! no offense!! I would probably try to do the same thing. so far my g/f is okay with my use. she supports it to the best of her ability, but that doesnt last forever!!

Part of my identity is about looking sexy as fuck. No way I can give that up and field questions as to why I got so small to hundreds of people
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« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2012, 02:30:04 PM »

Part of my identity is about looking sexy as fuck. No way I can give that up and field questions as to why I got so small to hundreds of people

I am in the EXACT same boat. everyone kows me as being big. people would think I was smokng meth if I ever quit.
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« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2012, 02:48:09 PM »

I had to do this last year and I got someone to photoshop my bloodwork results so I can have both. It got resolved beautifully at least for now

HAHAHAHAHA!! Hopefully that'll last  Lips sealed
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« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2012, 08:35:23 AM »

smooooth
can you post the tips for arm growth??
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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2012, 09:34:13 AM »

Smoof, you're absolutely correct that AIs don't kill your growth! There's no reason why they would! Estrogen is NOT anabolic, like some people like to claim! In fact, too much estrogen reduces anabolism! So using AIs to keep your estrogen in check is a good thing! Just don't use too much AIs as that will destroy your estrogen levels, which is bad for your libido and bad for your health.
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« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2012, 11:52:15 AM »

it does suck how our country looks so down on the subject...I work 9-5 job, professional and people have asked and I have to shrug it off, give a little no and just tell them its all training and diet so I avoid it as much as possible cause I dont like lying...

I use AIs most the time cause im so gyno prone and never hurts my growth
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« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2012, 12:13:28 PM »

Interesting post, smoof and thanks for sharing!

The more oppinions we hear and the more it is discussed the more we learn. I agree with you an the "superman" thing in the sense that I have also not been sick the last 5-6 years at all. I can kiss my girlfriend (when I have one) when she has a cold but I am completely immune. I do have a couple of questions if you don't mind:

1) What about health issues on these doses? I am thinking blood presssure, cholesterole, lipid profile, liver (with the orals in your cycle) enlargening of heart and so on?
2) Is not primo also very hard on the prostate?
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« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2012, 01:17:31 PM »

Interesting post, smoof and thanks for sharing!

The more oppinions we hear and the more it is discussed the more we learn. I agree with you an the "superman" thing in the sense that I have also not been sick the last 5-6 years at all. I can kiss my girlfriend (when I have one) when she has a cold but I am completely immune. I do have a couple of questions if you don't mind:

1) What about health issues on these doses? I am thinking blood presssure, cholesterole, lipid profile, liver (with the orals in your cycle) enlargening of heart and so on?2) Is not primo also very hard on the prostate?


Looking forward to this.
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« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2012, 03:55:06 AM »

How long can you run masteron before your prostate needs a break, and how long should the break be? I've been on masteron for like 3 - 4 months now, and I wanted to blast the fuck out of it for another 15 weeks... Should I take a break from masteron before I blast it?

Why is masteron particularly bad for your prostrate? Anymore than any other DHT based compound? What does it do specifically to the prostrate after six months on mast?
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« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2012, 06:48:53 AM »

Why is masteron particularly bad for your prostrate? Anymore than any other DHT based compound? What does it do specifically to the prostrate after six months on mast?

ive been wondering the same myself, been on it for some time and going to get off for while and add primo instead...

gh2: its funny cause im the same way, my wife will be sick, ill kiss her and I wont get sick. I work with alot of people (customers) each day and even they are sick and I wont catch it. Its amazing what this stuff will do to immune system. BP is always an issue, and lately with all the damn gh talk, people are eating ehat ever they want while on and that cant be good. You need a good balance and always eating shit cause you can get away with it and not get fat isnt good for all you listed...
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