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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #50 on: May 01, 2012, 12:40:19 PM »
Now Fat Man is campaigning. 

Romney might convince me, Christie says
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(CNN) – New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie on Monday said Romney "might be able to convince" him to serve as his No. 2 on the Republican presidential ticket.

"He might be able to convince me. He's a convincing guy, but I really love this job. I really want to stay in this job" Christie said during a high school visit in Plainsboro Township, New Jersey.

The popular Republican governor and early Romney backer said he is not interested in serving as vice president, but that he would be open to discussing the position with Romney.

"I really have no interest in being vice president, but if Governor Romney calls and asks me to sit down and talk to him about it, I'd listen because I think you owe the nominee of your party that level of respect and who knows what he's going to say," Christie said. "We'll wait and see."

After deciding against his own presidential bid in the fall, Christie said his temperament might prove difficult for the No. 2 role, something he reiterated on Monday.

"Do I really look like the vice presidential type?" Christie asked the group of students. "I don't think that's me."

Christie, who has gained a national reputation for his blunt talk and bold governing, is expected to campaign with Republican Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, who is facing a recall election next month.

The two are scheduled to attend a luncheon and rally on Tuesday in the Badger State.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/30/romney-might-convince-me-christie-says/

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #51 on: May 02, 2012, 07:45:44 AM »
he's way too volatile, angry, and unpleasant to the eyes.

romney is out of touch, but he's a smart man.  he'll pick a bland yes-man.  rubio. christie, yall are just too new and reckless.

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #52 on: May 02, 2012, 03:41:36 PM »
Bobby Jindal for vice president
By David Frum, CNN Contributor
updated 9:10 AM EDT, Wed May 2, 2012

Editor's note: David Frum is a contributing editor at Newsweek and The Daily Beast and a CNN contributor. He is the author of seven books, including his new first novel, "Patriots."

Washington (CNN) -- Republicans have a Latino problem. Only about 6% of Latino voters agree that the GOP is the party most concerned for their interests. Nearly half choose the Democrats as the party most concerned for them.

Some Republicans are advancing a Latino solution: Nominate a Latino for vice president in 2012. The name most often mentioned is that of Marco Rubio, the junior senator from Florida.

There's a lot to admire about Rubio. His personal rise from hardscrabble immigrant roots confirms Americans' highest hopes for the country.

But Republicans make a big mistake if they imagine that the Rubio choice will gain them many Latino votes. Rubio is the wrong answer to the wrong question.

Here's the right question: Why do Latinos tilt so heavily Democratic?

Under the Census Bureau's newest and most sophisticated measure of poverty, some 28% of Latinos count as poor, a higher proportion than among African-Americans, 25% of whom are poor.

More than one-third of Latino voters fear their home could go into foreclosure. Only 23% of Latinos describe their personal finances as "excellent" or "good," compared to 37% of the total U.S. population.

Of Latinos who are legal residents of the United States, 28% lack health insurance. In the total U.S. population, only 17% lack health insurance.

Is it realistic to imagine that a Spanish-speaker on the national ticket will overcome these hard economic facts?

As glibly as pundits talk about "Hispanic voters," it's important to remember that a majority of American Hispanics identify themselves -- not as "Hispanics" -- but as Mexican-Americans, Cuban-Americans, and so on.

Almost two-thirds of U.S. Hispanics are Mexican-Americans. As Rubin Navarette recently pointed out on CNN Opinion, the values and interests of Mexican-Americans do not align naturally with those of Cuban-Americans like Marco Rubio.

"Thanks to the Cuban Adjustment Act, which was enacted in 1966 -- or four years after Rubio's grandfather came to the United States -- Cuban refugees who flee the Island and reach the U.S. shoreline have a clear path to legal residency and eventual citizenship.

Mexican immigrants aren't so fortunate. So when Cuban-Americans do what Rubio has done since arriving in the Senate 16 months ago and take a hard line against illegal immigration, Mexicans and Mexican-Americans have been known to cringe. After all, that's easy for them to say."

Under these circumstances, Republicans should be cautious about assuming that they can sway Latino votes with the symbolic politics of a Rubio nomination.

What would work better are policy changes and message changes to win back the 9 points worth of Latino votes that Republicans lost between the elections of 2004 and 2008.

Republicans tend to assume that immigration is the issue that most moves Latino voters. If that assumption was ever true, it is not true now. Latinos were hit hard by the economic crisis that began in 2007. They were promised "hope" by Barack Obama in 2008. Those hopes have been largely disappointed. But what are Republicans offering instead?

And to the extent that symbolic politics can sway votes, Republicans should be looking to groups more receptive to the core Republican message than Mexican-Americans are likely to be.

The Asian-American population is also growing fast, and many Asian groups -- Vietnamese-Americans and Indian-Americans to name only two -- are gaining their success in small business. They are natural targets for Republican recruitment.

In Britain, Australia, and Canada, conservative parties have done well with these immigrant groups. In fact, in the federal election of 2010, Canada's Conservatives won a plurality of the vote among voters who spoke Chinese at home.

For these voters, inclusion does matter. Symbols of inclusion can work.

As symbols go, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal is a doozy: a brilliant policy mind with an inspirational life story who has run an effective government in corruption-tainted Louisiana. He can talk data with Romney and credibly sit at the kitchen tables of the struggling middle class.

Which leads to this thought: Bobby Jindal for vice president!

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/02/opinion/frum-vice-president-rubio-jindal/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #53 on: May 04, 2012, 08:44:43 AM »
Not Santorum. 

Reuters Poll: Republicans Back Santorum, Rubio for VP
Friday, 04 May 2012

Rick Santorum and Marco Rubio are the top two choices among U.S. Republican voters as Mitt Romney's vice presidential running mate, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Thursday.

Eighteen percent of Republican registered voters picked former Pennsylvania Senator Santorum out of a list of 19 potential running mates for Romney, the party's presumptive presidential nominee in the Nov. 6 general election.

Seventeen percent chose Rubio, a U.S. senator from Florida. Rubio was also the most popular pick among members of the Tea Party movement, a group that Romney wants to win over as he works to solidify his support among the party's conservatives after a divisive primary fight.

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and former Florida Governor Jeb Bush were tied for third among Republicans, with 13-percent support, and 12 percent picked former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee.

None of the other potential vice presidential picks was higher than 6 percent, largely because they are unfamiliar to most voters, Ipsos pollster Chris Jackson said.

Congressman Paul Ryan, well known in Washington for his cost-cutting budget plan, was one big name with scant support at just 4 percent. Despite campaigning with Romney in Wisconsin recently in what was seen as a try out for a possible vice presidential nomination, Ryan was familiar to only a third of the registered voters polled.

Almost a quarter of Tea Party members picked Rubio in the online poll, compared with 16-percent support among the group for Santorum, who ended his own presidential run last month.

But Rubio might not be the best choice of running mate if Romney wants to appeal to independent voters in the general election against President Barack Obama.

The 40-year-old Cuban-American senator was backed by only 4 percent of independents, behind other top Republican names mentioned in the vice presidential stakes.

There has been speculation he might help Romney win over Hispanics, with whom he trails Obama by a whopping 40 percentage points, but early polling has not borne that out.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/gop-santorum-rubio-vp/2012/05/04/id/438007

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #54 on: May 04, 2012, 09:47:37 AM »
Yikes -

The 40-year-old Cuban-American senator was backed by only 4 percent of independents

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2012, 02:50:00 PM »
Jeb Bush Insists No to VP, Urges Rubio Pick
Sunday, 06 May 2012

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush says he has no intention of being Mitt Romney’s vice presidential candidate, and is urging the presumptive GOP nominee to go with U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio instead.

Bush gave the commencement speech at conservative Catholic Ave Maria University on Saturday. Just before he spoke university President Jim Towey the group if they thought Bush should be president. The crowd roared its approval.

Before the speech, reporters drilled Bush repeatedly on the VP question.

"Wow, no foreplay," he quipped. "I'm not going to be vice president. I'm an active supporter of Gov. Romney. I humbly suggest he seriously consider Marco Rubio."

Rubio, Florida’s Cuban-American senator, is the most eloquent speaker for Hispanics in this country, Bush said, according to NapleNews.com. He added that Romney should focus on a "proactive immigration policy that promotes legal immigration. We can't send a signal that we want to be the old white guy party."

Florida will be key to the presidential election, Bush said, adding: "We're the purplest of all purple states. If the president wins Florida, Romney has to do a lot more elsewhere."

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/jeb-bush-rubio-romney/2012/05/06/id/438141

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2012, 02:52:00 PM »
Somebody was talking her up to me the other day.  She looks good on paper.

Ayotte: I’m more qualified than Obama
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(CNN) - Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire, eyed as a possible running-mate pick for Mitt Romney, said on Sunday she was more qualified than Barack Obama was in 2008.

“I have, some would say, better experience than Barack Obama had when he was a senator, having been the chief law enforcement officer of my state, (then) to serve on the Senate Armed Services Committee,” Ayotte said on NBC’s “Meet The Press.”

Before winning her Senate seat in 2010, Ayotte served as the state’s attorney general for five years. She was a major surrogate for Romney on the campaign trail and has appeared with the former Massachusetts governor at several events during the primary season.

Ayotte said Sunday she was “honored” to be mentioned as a possible vice presidential candidate, but asserted her “focus is on serving New Hampshire.” She pointed instead to other potential contenders, namely Ohio Sen. Rob Portman and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio.

“There are so many good candidates,” she said.

When looking for a running mate, Ayotte added that Romney should consider not only the person’s geographic background, but their “qualifications and knowledge of the issues.”

Last week, former New Hampshire Gov. John Sununu, a Romney supporter, said Ayotte is a "strong candidate" but argued the fact that both she and Romney are from the Northeast could be a disadvantage.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/06/ayotte-im-more-qualified-than-obama/

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2012, 03:25:03 PM »
Personally, I think his best bet is Ron Paul by far at this point.  Not foe personal reasons, but for the buzz, youth, and crossover appeal.

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2012, 03:33:09 PM »
Personally, I think his best bet is Ron Paul by far at this point.  Not foe personal reasons, but for the buzz, youth, and crossover appeal.

He doesn't have enough supporters to make an impact.  Just look at the number of votes he has gotten so far.  If he wants buzz he should pick a woman or someone like Rubio. 

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2012, 03:33:42 PM »
If he wants to win he should pick a "safe" candidate like Portman or the VA gov.

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2012, 03:51:51 PM »
If he wants to win he should pick a "safe" candidate like Portman or the VA gov.

agreed.

choosing a rock star who hasn't been at the national stage 2 years would be a mistake.

besides, obama is an unpopular incumbent who has done a terrible job - If romney can't win with a safe pick, he doesn't have the tools needed to do a good job as president.  In other words, if you aren't an effective enough manager to win a campaign against a guy with a record like obama's... you're going to be impotent on a world stage against leaders who are pretty tough.

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #61 on: May 13, 2012, 07:36:48 PM »
Thune doesn't say no to No. 2 spot
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(CNN) – Republican Sen. John Thune on Sunday said he doesn't hold "aspirations" to serve as Mitt Romney's running mate in 2012, but did not rule out accepting a potential offer.

When asked if he would say "yes or no" to the No. 2 spot if it was offered, the South Dakota senator and early Romney backer said he is keeping his options open.

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"You never rule out opportunities or options when you're involved in public life and you say you want to make a difference. If you're serious about that, obviously you don't foreclose options," Thune said on "Fox News Sunday."

Thune, now in his second term, reiterated his pledge to help the presumptive GOP presidential nominee while he attempts to "make a difference" in his current role as a senator.

"That's the job I have. I don't aspire to anything else," Thune said. "Obviously, the Romney team, his campaign team are going to carefully vet some folks that they're looking at. We've got a lot of good options out there, and I just hope to contribute in some way to the success of this ticket in the fall."

The third-ranking Senate Republican decided against a presidential bid of his own in February 2011 and has been mentioned by political observers as a potential vice-presidential candidate. Thune has enjoyed a relatively high profile since he ousted three-term incumbent and Democratic leader Tom Daschle from his Senate seat in 2004.

Romney appointed Beth Myers in April to lead his search for a running mate, a process the former Massachusetts governor has said he hopes remains out of the public sphere.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/13/thune-doesnt-say-no-to-no-2-spot/

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #62 on: May 14, 2012, 02:24:45 PM »
Conservative leader: Obama marriage announcement comes at a cost
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Washington (CNN) – President Barack Obama’s support of same-sex marriage will hurt him in states he captured in 2008, the president of American Values, Gary Bauer, predicted Sunday.

“I think the president this past week took six or seven states he carried in 2008 and put them in play with this ill-conceived position,” Bauer said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage on Wednesday after previously saying his opinions on the issue were “evolving.”

However, the conservative leader said Mitt Romney, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, should not focus solely on social issues and should instead “explain to the American people why he would be a great president.”

“I think you do that by giving your views on a whole range of issues,” Bauer said. “If he does that he’ll be very successful.”

Bauer appeared on CNN alongside Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, who said social issues should not be a “central point” of Romney’s campaign, but said defending the family “should be a priority.”

“I just think he needs to continue talking about all of the issues that are important to evangelical voters, and I think yesterday was a good start,” Perkins said of Romney's commencement address at the Christian Liberty University on Saturday. “He didn’t dance around the issues; he talked about the common values that he shares with the evangelical community.”

The influential social conservative criticized Romney earlier in the presidential cycle for not speaking out strongly enough on social issues and more recently said he should learn from the campaign message of Rick Santorum, who repeatedly invoked such issues during his failed bid White House bid.

On Sunday, Perkins said Obama's statement helped boost Romney's standing with evangelicals, who overwhelmingly support him over the incumbent president, according to recent polling.

“I think the president is what helped Romney this week the most this week with his announcement,” Perkins told CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley.

Yet Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois disagreed, telling CNN the president will not "lose votes that he otherwise hadn't lost" following the marriage declaration.

"I'm not sure the evangelicals were going to lean toward President Obama anyway," Durbin, the Senate's No. 2 Democrat, said.

Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper of Colorado, a swing state that banned same-sex marriage in 2006, predicted the announcement would have little impact in his state, which supported Obama in the 2008 presidential election.

"I think what the president's personal opinion is and how he's wrestled with this is just another example of who he is and the strength of his character," Hickenlooper said on CNN's "State of the Union." "I don't think that's going to affect - have much effect in Colorado."

Turing to vice presidential politics, Perkins and Bauer also offered their suggestions for who should be the former Massachusetts governor's running mate in 2012.

Perkins' pick: Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal or former Arkansas governor and presidential candidate Mike Huckabee.

Bauer's pick: Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/13/conservative-leader-obama-marriage-announcement-comes-at-a-cost/

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #63 on: May 15, 2012, 08:35:06 PM »
Newt: Rubio Will Make Great President Someday
Tuesday, 15 May 2012 07:46 PM
By Jim Meyers and Kathleen Walter

Newt Gingrich tells Newsmax the GOP has a number of “first-rate talents” to choose from in selecting presumptive presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s running mate.

But when asked what Gingrich would do if Romney tapped him for vice president, the former House speaker says in an interview with Newsmax TV:

“I would ask him to think long and hard about why he was doing that.

“I think he’s probably going to tap someone who’s younger, somebody who brings significant ability to help win the election this fall, and we have a number of very exciting people, whether you’re talking about Senator Marco Rubio in Florida, Senator Rob Portman [in Ohio], Senator Kelly Ayotte in New Hampshire, people like Condi Rice, former secretary of State. We have a lot of talent in the Republican Party.

“You ask three things about a potential vice president. One, could they be president? Two, are they philosophically broadly compatible with the nominee? And three, can they help you win the election? You ask them in that order. There are a number of first-rate talents he could pick that would strengthen the ticket and our chances of winning this fall.”

Asked if Rubio would make a good vice president, Gingrich responds: “Sure. I think he’d make a good president someday. He’s a very very smart, very competent person.”

Gingrich also says there are no potential candidates who would concern him if selected as Romney’s running mate.

He adds: “I’m assuming they’re going to pick somebody who is pro-life and I assume they’re going to pick somebody who believes marriage is between a man and a woman, because those are the two key issues that would lead to a genuine rebellion in the party.

“But given that those are both Romney’s positions, he shouldn’t find any difficulty having somebody who agrees with him on those two issues.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/gingrich-rubio-vice-president/2012/05/15/id/439200

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2012, 01:13:37 PM »
Romney Campaign Begins Vetting VP Choices
Friday, 18 May 2012
By Newsmax Wires

The campaign staff of Republican presidential nominee-to-be Mitt Romney has begun the process of sorting through his potential running mates.

The vetting team, led by Romney adviser Beth Myers, has started contacting the choices, a source close to the Romney campaign told The Hill. The Romney campaign wants to avoid a repeat of 2008, when the campaign of Republican nominee John McCain wasn’t ready for the hoopla created by his selection of Sarah Palin.

Among those thought to be on the list, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, Ohio Sen. Rob Portman, and Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan declined to comment. South Dakota Sen. Johnson told The Hill he hasn’t been contacted by the vetting squad.

Potential candidates will have their entire lives examined — voting records, tax returns, children, spouses, etc. Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., who was Al Gore’s running mate in 2000 and was vetted by McCain’s campaign, said it’s not a pleasant process.

“During the Gore vettings, somebody said to me, ‘It’s like having a colonoscopy without painkillers,’” he told The Hill. “I heard they had gone back and read editorials I had written for the Yale Daily News in 1963. They asked very explicit questions.”

Michael Berman, who helped investigate Geraldine Ferraro for Walter Mondale in 1984, said Romney is smart to get started on the process early. “The place where people get in trouble is when you don’t give yourself enough time,” he told The Hill.

Berman said more and more elements of candidates’ backgrounds are being investigated, as each campaign learns from mistakes of prior ones. “That which becomes controversial has increased over time,” he said. “With the explosion of news sources, a little nothing can be turned into something.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-campaign-election-vp/2012/05/18/id/439539

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #65 on: May 19, 2012, 09:37:30 AM »
Asked if he'd run with Romney, Pawlenty doesn't say no
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(CNN) - Tim Pawlenty didn't use on Thursday the one word which most potential GOP vice presidential picks have used this year when asked if they would accept the number two spot: "no."

"I'm going to do whatever I can to help Mitt Romney defeat Barack Obama," he said in an interview on MSNBC. "I've just been telling people, look, I think I can help in other ways but obviously anyone would be honored to serve if asked."

The former Minnesota governor is co-chair of Romney's campaign, and deflected questions about whether Romney's campaign was vetting him for the position, saying campaign policy is "that we don't talk about the vice presidential" selection.

"That's something that we're just going to leave for another day and another time, not because I'm trying to be coy with you... that's just the campaign policy, we don't discuss the details of that process," he said.

Sen. John Thune of South Dakota similarly did not shoot down the idea of his own spot on the ticket, saying on Sunday, "You never rule out opportunities or options when you're involved in public life and you say you want to make a difference. If you're serious about that, obviously you don't foreclose options."

Pawlenty and Thune's responses offer a contrast to adamant rejections of the position by others, including New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida.

Their answers were closer to those Pawlenty has given previously, such as in a Monday interview when he said, "I'm going to take my name off the list, so if ... you're a journalist, an observer, remove my name from the list."

Pawlenty quit the presidential race after the Iowa straw poll in the summer of 2011, and has since been a prominent supporter of Romney. He was considered a likely pick to be the 2008 vice presidential nominee.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/17/asked-if-hed-run-with-romney-pawlenty-doesnt-say-no/

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #66 on: May 19, 2012, 11:23:33 AM »
T-Paw could win this election for Rmoney with his awesome use of lada gaga references.

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #67 on: May 24, 2012, 04:28:05 PM »
Long but very good commentary.

Veepstakes: How Might Romney Narrow Down the Field?
Joel K. Goldstein, Guest Columnist May 23rd, 2012

Although his vice presidential selection is likely months away, we suspect that even now, Mitt Romney and his team are beginning to narrow down their list of possibilities. Joel K. Goldstein, the nation’s foremost authority on both the selection and service of modern vice presidents, explains how outside factors influenced previous candidates’ choices, and what Romney’s selection may tell us about him and his decision-making style. Goldstein, the Vincent C. Immel Professor of Law at Saint Louis University School of Law, is the author of The Modern American Vice Presidency: The Transformation of a Political Institution (Princeton University Press, 1982) and numerous other works on the vice presidency, presidency and constitutional law. — The Editors 


Mitt Romney faces a complicated vice presidential choice, and his predicament traces to two factors: His campaign has multiple needs and the pool of potential candidates offers imperfect options. Romney’s situation is not, however, novel. If history is a guide, his options will sort out over time and, like his predecessors, he will ultimately choose from imperfect alternatives.

Vice presidential selection is inherently contextual and relational. It is contextual because the choice invariably depends upon a range of factors over which the candidate has relatively little control, including the race’s apparent competitiveness, the issues most likely to be important and the candidates who are available. Facing an unfavorable political landscape in 1984, Walter F. Mondale saw a need to reshape the terrain and tried to do so by choosing the first woman running mate, Geraldine Ferraro. He might have made a different choice if polls had forecast a closer race. Tax and economic issues seemed a favorable place for Bob Dole to make his stand in 1996, which helped explain the choice of Jack Kemp.

The choice of a running mate is also relational because a presidential nominee must always choose a running mate based upon needs particular to the candidate doing the selecting. The familiar concept of “ticket-balancing,” implies just that — the presidential nominee selects a running mate in relation to his or her own strengths and weaknesses. George H.W. Bush was a good choice in 1980 for Ronald Reagan, who wanted a running mate from the more moderate wing of the party and one with some national security credentials, but Bush would have been a less compelling running mate in 1980 for Gerald Ford. Joe Biden made great sense for Barack Obama, but might have been less likely had Hillary Clinton been the nominee. Mondale was a perfect fit for Jimmy Carter, but an unlikely running mate for Frank Church, Morris Udall or Hubert H. Humphrey. A reinforcing choice, as Bill Clinton made in selecting Al Gore, shares this relational character.  In choosing Gore, Clinton underscored attributes — that he was a southern centrist from the baby boomer generation — that were linked to his own biography.

Most polls forecast a competitive presidential race. If this expectation holds into the summer, Romney will be less likely to attempt to remake the political landscape with an unconventional selection and will be more likely to seek a running mate who appears to be a plausible president. Recent history suggests that most presidential nominees facing competitive races choose a running mate who would make a credible president. Determining whether someone satisfies that test involves subjective judgments, although some other criteria will help inform the decision. These include the amount of experience candidates have in traditional vice presidential feeder positions, their prior consideration for the presidency, their prior consideration for vice president and, most subjective, the way other officials and opinion-molders perceive them.

Since 1976, most first-time vice presidential candidates have been plausible presidential candidates based on these sorts of measures. Those chosen averaged 14.5 years in traditional feeder positions (governor, member of Congress, high executive official) for the vice presidency. All but Ferraro, John Edwards and Sarah Palin had at least 10 years experience in such positions, and Edwards had the compensating credentials of having been runner-up to John Kerry in the 2004 presidential primaries and a serious VP contender for Al Gore’s ticket four years earlier. Surely Dole, Mondale, Bush, Lloyd Bentsen, Al Gore, Jack Kemp, Joe Lieberman, Dick Cheney and Biden were among the leading political figures of their generation when chosen. Dan Quayle had served 12 years in Congress and was building a record in the Senate.

Many of those around whom vice presidential speculation has centered this time do not measure up based on these criteria. Indeed, many of those most prominently mentioned this year have extremely limited experience, have not demonstrated their presidential qualities through a presidential race, or have not even previously been considered for the second spot on a ticket. Chris Christie (NJ) and Bob McDonnell (VA) have been governors for three years; Marco Rubio (FL), Kelly Ayotte (NH) and Rand Paul (KY) have been senators for only two years; and Nikki Haley (SC), Susana Martinez (NM) and Brian Sandoval (NV) have been governors for only two years (all figures rounded up). Based on prior service in traditional feeder positions, these levels place these candidates near the Sarah Palin-Spiro Agnew line (i.e. two years as governor), hardly an aspirational standard.

Of course, one or more of these people may be among those extraordinary figures who are ready to perform well on the national stage in 2012 even though their resumes are short and they have not yet demonstrated success in presidential politics. Many are now trying to make their case during this several-month vice presidential audition period.  And perhaps anti-Washington sentiment makes this year an anomaly. Selecting a political neophyte presents risks, however. These figures have not been tested by campaigns comparable to a presidential contest, and such a choice would draw inevitable comparisons to John McCain’s designation of Palin. If the person selected did not perform well, Romney’s judgment would be questioned.

The risk for Romney would be even greater because his own career in public service is short, consisting of a single term as governor of Massachusetts, and he does not have experience in foreign policy or national government. These gaps in Romney’s resume further diminish the prospects of those mentioned above. Indeed, every governor nominated for president since 1976 has chosen a running mate with extensive experience in national government. Thus, Carter chose Mondale, Reagan chose Bush, Michael Dukakis picked Bentsen, Clinton selected Gore and George W. Bush selected Cheney. For Romney to choose a relative newcomer to high public office would represent a break from the path of these recent governor-presidential candidates.

Conversely, Romney might try to emphasize his theme that he is an economic turnaround expert by selecting a running mate who reinforces that message. That might lead Romney to choose a running mate with experience, but in creating jobs rather than in national public service.

To be sure, the Republican Party does include figures who fare better on some of the standard measures for qualifying running mates. Gov. Mitch Daniels (IN, 10 years), Sen. Rob Portman (OH, 16), Sen. John Thune (SD, 14), Gov. Bobby Jindal (LA, 8), Rep. Paul Ryan (WI, 14) and former Govs. Jeb Bush (FL, 8) and Tim Pawlenty (MN, 8) have all served at least eight years in traditional feeder positions and several were viewed as plausible presidential candidates earlier in this cycle. Jindal and Pawlenty were among those who made McCain’s vice presidential shortlist. Former Sen. Rick Santorum (PA) and former Gov. Mike Huckabee (AR) might also qualify based on the relative success of their presidential runs this year and in 2008, respectively. Yet the acrimonious nature of this year’s campaign will surely disqualify Santorum. A runner-up occasionally has been chosen (Bush, 1980, Edwards, 2004), but they left the race once the ultimate result was evident and conducted less divisive campaigns than did Santorum. Those who run but finish further back in the pack rarely are designated, and Pawlenty’s poor showing certainly did not bolster his chance to become Romney’s choice. Biden is the one exception to this latter pattern, yet he ran against a stronger field in 2008 than this year’s Republican contest featured and, unlike Pawlenty, brought a long record of national public service to the ticket.

In addition to being presidential, potential running mates will need to prove to Romney’s vetting team of lawyers, accountants and other nitpicking specialists that their (and their families’) backgrounds contain no blemishes that would be too difficult to manage. Generally speaking, some past possibilities have been unable to survive a vetting screen because of reputed (or confirmed) philandering, questionable financial dealings, bizarre habits or a tendency to go rogue.  These or other such stains may remove some of those who figure in speculation. And some will not get the nod because of their association with policy positions Romney may seek to avoid. Howard Baker’s role in securing ratification for the Panama Canal treaties damaged his chance of being Reagan’s running mate. Being pro-choice has, in the past, disqualified Sen. Alan Simpson (1988), Gov. Tom Ridge (2000, 2008) and Lieberman (2008). Sandoval will likely be this year’s casualty on these grounds, as will former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who has described herself in the past as “mildly pro-choice” (as well as supportive of some affirmative action). Ryan might be an appealing choice, but he comes with his controversial budget plan. Romney has endorsed it, but will he really wish to be defined by that blueprint by choosing him?

Like any presidential nominee, Romney’s choice will respond to his needs as a presidential candidate. Romney enters the race with some obvious weaknesses. First, as mentioned above, Romney’s lack of national security credentials makes it less likely that he will choose someone whose exclusive experience has been as a state governor.

Moreover, the conservative base of the Republican Party has had misgivings about Romney, which contributed to his difficulty securing the nomination against this year’s weak field. Every recent Republican nominee from the more moderate wing of the party (Bush 1988 and 1992, Dole 1996, McCain, 2008) has felt compelled to select a running mate popular with the party’s conservative base. It seems likely that he will need to choose someone who at least will not offend, and perhaps will excite, the Republican base. Romney will want his choice to produce a happy and unified convention.

Yet Romney must balance his desire to pacify the conservative, evangelical base of the Republican Party against his need to appeal to independent and undecided voters in swing states. If he chooses a right-wing hero to prove he’s a true believer, he may offend independent voters. If he makes a choice to appeal to independents, he could provoke a conservative revolt or, perhaps more likely, an apathetic base.

Romney faces problems with other demographic groups, women and Hispanics among them.  Some recent polls showed him far behind among Hispanics, an important voting bloc in some swing states, and lagging among women, especially unmarried women. Yet choices thought to appeal to Hispanic voters, like Rubio, Martinez, Sandoval or Jeb Bush, or women, like Ayotte, Haley, Martinez or Rice have other drawbacks, including those suggested elsewhere in this discussion.

Romney’s affluence, coupled with his occasional gaffes that emphasized his economic status (e.g., his $10,000 bet, his wife’s two Cadillacs, etc.) may cause him to look for someone who would not replicate his elite pedigree. Such considerations could work against Portman or Bush among others, and in favor of someone like Pawlenty.

Finally, Romney will be constrained by some filters that are independent of anything he has done. Although past Republican nominees have frequently chosen running mates with substantial experience in the executive branch (e.g., Bush in 1980, Kemp in 1996, Cheney in 2000), this qualification may have less appeal this time. Many of the possible candidates are associated with the George W. Bush administration either based on service (Daniels, Portman, Rice) or family (Jeb Bush). Does Romney wish to associate himself with that administration by choosing a running mate with such baggage? To do so would emphasize the extent to which America’s economic problems predated President Barack Obama’s inauguration.

Republicans in Congress will also have one or two strikes against them. Sitting members of the House of Representatives are almost never selected as running mates, in part because they are perceived to have a stature deficit relative to senators, governors or members of the executive branch. Ferraro is the only sitting House member to be selected since 1976, and she was chosen at a time when there were no Democratic women in the Senate and only one recently elected woman Democratic governor. William Miller, in 1964, is the only other House member chosen going back more than 75 years. Barry Goldwater, who had limited options, chose Miller due to his proclivity at provoking Lyndon B. Johnson. Ford was selected under the 25th Amendment, but that was an extraordinary situation.

The bias against choosing a member of the House might count against Ryan, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (VA) or Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (WA). Moreover, such a selection would associate Romney with the unpopular Congress and perhaps enhance Obama’s ability to tie Romney to it. That consideration might also affect the likelihood that Romney would select Thune, Portman or another Republican senator. Incidentally, although the Senate is an incubator for Democratic running mates, only 20% of Republican vice presidential candidates since 1952 (Nixon, Dole and Quayle) were sitting senators when chosen.

If history is a guide, Romney’s options will clarify in the coming months. The ultimate nominee is almost never apparent in late May of election year. Few would have predicted Mondale, Dole, Bush, Ferraro, Bentsen, Quayle, Gore, Kemp, Lieberman, Cheney, Biden or Palin at that time in the year each was chosen. As the convention approaches, Romney’s relative electoral strengths and weaknesses will become more apparent, and his options will narrow as various prospective choices rise or fall based on the outcomes of the vetting, their own conduct and strategic considerations. And he will probably achieve a better sense of his relative comfort level with the various alternatives as a political partner.

Ultimately, Romney will need to choose between imperfect options. Presidential candidates always do. Bush was a great choice for Reagan in 1980, yet he had labeled Reagan’s signature policies “voodoo economics,” had never been elected to anything outside of Texas’s Seventh Congressional District (although he had won seven primaries or caucuses and previously been considered for the vice presidency) and Reagan had reservations about him. Bentsen disagreed with Dukakis on various issues. Clinton’s selection of Gore violated conventional practices regarding ticket-balancing. Dole chose Kemp although the two had well-publicized differences, which Kemp had exacerbated when he endorsed Steve Forbes at a point when Dole’s nomination was inevitable. Cheney, Biden and Palin were from tiny, safe states.

In picking a running mate, Romney will tell us something about himself. In addition to being contextual and relational, a vice presidential choice is idiosyncratic. It matters who is making the choice and who has his or her ear. Within the constraints a nominee faces, the choice tells us something about the selector’s values and decision-making style and ability.  McCain was perceived to undermine his promise to put “Country First” when he chose Palin. Reagan, Dukakis and Dole signaled they were open to a spectrum of views when they chose Bush, Bentsen and Kemp, respectively. The choice of Cheney in 2000 reassured voters that Bush would choose experienced and able advisers whereas Gore’s selection of Lieberman, an early critic of Clinton regarding the Lewinsky affair, signaled an emphasis on values, independence from Clinton, and boldness in selecting the first Jewish American to run on a national ticket.

Romney, like his predecessors, faces constraints in making his vice-presidential choice. How he decides from a menu of imperfect options will reveal something about him. That, after all, is part of what presidents do, and how they should be judged.

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #68 on: May 24, 2012, 08:11:52 PM »
Romney should pick Christie or Susana Martinez.

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« Reply #69 on: May 24, 2012, 08:15:42 PM »
Romney should pick Christie or Susana Martinez.

christie is disgusting on the eyes.
he's a loose cannon who will PLUMMET with women.
polls show he does nothing to help when on the national ticket.

he's an undisciplined mouthpiece for lower spending while shady budgeting in his own states, taking choppers to limos then flying to iowa...

And he's got what, 2 or 3 years of national experience?

Wow, why settle for minimal experience when you have people who have performed at a high level for 10 or 15 years WITHOUT weighing 340 pounds?

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« Reply #70 on: May 25, 2012, 10:52:10 AM »
Personally, I think his best bet is Ron Paul by far at this point.  Not foe personal reasons, but for the buzz, youth, and crossover appeal.

Rand Paul is better. That would get some Ron Paul supporters on board without pissing off neocons of the Mark Levin/Sean Hannity ilk.

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« Reply #71 on: May 25, 2012, 10:57:09 AM »
He doesn't have enough supporters to make an impact.  Just look at the number of votes he has gotten so far.  If he wants buzz he should pick a woman or someone like Rubio. 

If you look at some of the older PPP polls which have a Obama v. Romney v. Paul match-up, Romney gets destroyed thanks to Ron Paul. If you look at some of the Obama v. Romney v. Johnson match-up polls, Romney is in trouble. Picking a libertarian-conservative like Ron Paul or Rand Paul could help him with Democrats, independents, and the youth vote. Romney's biggest problem is that he's too much of an Establishment GOP guy to do anything like that.

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« Reply #72 on: May 25, 2012, 11:24:10 AM »
Romney Woos Senator Paul
By Robert Costa

Sources close to Senator Rand Paul tell National Review Online that Paul and Mitt Romney had a private meeting on Wednesday. Details of the topics discussed are hazy, but Paul — the son of Texas congressman (and presidential candidate) Ron Paul — reportedly found the meeting productive.

The one-on-one conversation in the nation’s capital lasted 30 minutes. Sources say the tone was cordial but it wasn’t meant to be an exchange of pleasantries. The Kentucky Republican focused his questions on policy.

Senator Paul is one of the GOP’s rising stars. Many of his father’s followers are wary of Romney, the presumptive nominee. Ron Paul has slowed down his campaign in recent weeks, but tension between the party’s libertarian wing and Romney supporters remains.

For now, there’s no word from Paul World beyond that; no word on whether Romney sought an endorsement or brokered a deal regarding the Tampa convention. But it’s clear Romney is intent on wooing Senator Paul, who has been touted by his father’s aides as a potential presidential candidate down the road.



http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/301001/romney-woos-senator-paul-robert-costa#

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« Reply #73 on: May 25, 2012, 11:32:29 AM »
Romney Woos Senator Paul
By Robert Costa

Sources close to Senator Rand Paul tell National Review Online that Paul and Mitt Romney had a private meeting on Wednesday. Details of the topics discussed are hazy, but Paul — the son of Texas congressman (and presidential candidate) Ron Paul — reportedly found the meeting productive.

The one-on-one conversation in the nation’s capital lasted 30 minutes. Sources say the tone was cordial but it wasn’t meant to be an exchange of pleasantries. The Kentucky Republican focused his questions on policy.

Senator Paul is one of the GOP’s rising stars. Many of his father’s followers are wary of Romney, the presumptive nominee. Ron Paul has slowed down his campaign in recent weeks, but tension between the party’s libertarian wing and Romney supporters remains.

For now, there’s no word from Paul World beyond that; no word on whether Romney sought an endorsement or brokered a deal regarding the Tampa convention. But it’s clear Romney is intent on wooing Senator Paul, who has been touted by his father’s aides as a potential presidential candidate down the road.



http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/301001/romney-woos-senator-paul-robert-costa#

Rand Paul is awesome.  His take down of the EPA bitch over his toilets is epic. 

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« Reply #74 on: May 25, 2012, 01:18:23 PM »
Romney should pick Christie or Susana Martinez.

Christi would be a good pick. 

I think if he doesn't pick Rubio he'll probably pick someone "safe" like Portman.