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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #150 on: July 18, 2012, 12:12:18 PM »
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Why would Romney ignore rubio or christie?

Rubio does not want it - but he may be begged for it.  I like Rubio though since he is clear, concise, agressive, and will attack the failed record of obama   

Christie might be in play - since he will face a hard race vs cory booker. 

 

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #151 on: July 18, 2012, 12:13:12 PM »
Rubio does not want it - but he may be begged for it.  I like Rubio though since he is clear, concise, agressive, and will attack the failed record of obama   

Christie might be in play - since he will face a hard race vs cory booker. 

So you believe that Rubio is just as experienced as Thune or T-paw?

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« Reply #152 on: July 18, 2012, 12:14:41 PM »
So you believe that Rubio is just as experienced as Thune or T-paw?

No - but we are in an age where experience does matter remember? 

Obama 2008 anyone? 

Obama had the same record in 2008 as if Rubio ran in 2012. 

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #153 on: July 18, 2012, 12:16:07 PM »
No - but we are in an age where experience does matter remember? 

Obama 2008 anyone? 

Obama had the same record in 2008 as if Rubio ran in 2012. 

In 2008, you said Obama was dangerously under-experienced for the job - YOU WERE RIGHT.

And the same things apply to Rubio right now.  Christie as well.

If you want to excuse Rubio's lack of experience for "Obama did okaY', I'll accept that.  But if you tell us obama has no experience, and you tell us he did a shitty job...
Then you adjust Rubio has no experience.... Well, safe to say Rubio is going to do a shitty job too. 

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #154 on: July 18, 2012, 12:17:56 PM »
In 2008, you said Obama was dangerously under-experienced for the job - YOU WERE RIGHT.

And the same things apply to Rubio right now.  Christie as well.

If you want to excuse Rubio's lack of experience for "Obama did okaY', I'll accept that.  But if you tell us obama has no experience, and you tell us he did a shitty job...
Then you adjust Rubio has no experience.... Well, safe to say Rubio is going to do a shitty job too. 

Christie is a gov and was State AG and and a Fed Prosecutor.

Rubio does not have enough experience IMHO  .   He is good for the attack dog role, but he needs more time.   

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #155 on: July 18, 2012, 12:19:53 PM »
Christie is a gov and was State AG and and a Fed Prosecutor.

Rubio does not have enough experience IMHO  .   He is good for the attack dog role, but he needs more time.   

Still - Rubio doesn't have the backbone to call Obama an illegal who was born in Kenya.  Rubio cowers to fears of being called names by MSNBC.

He's a phony wimp just like the rest of them.  Give Alan keyes the job.  He'll hand out brochures from that Kenyan hospital at every campaign stop.

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« Reply #156 on: July 18, 2012, 12:20:48 PM »
Still - Rubio doesn't have the backbone to call Obama an illegal who was born in Kenya.  Rubio cowers to fears of being called names by MSNBC.

He's a phony wimp just like the rest of them.  Give Alan keyes the job.  He'll hand out brochures from that Kenyan hospital at every campaign stop.

Rubio has his own NBC issues

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #157 on: July 18, 2012, 12:24:14 PM »
Rubio has his own NBC issues

NBC?  You mean lying about his parents being refugees, when in reality they came and went under Castro like it was no big thang?

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #158 on: July 19, 2012, 09:39:01 AM »
Jeb Bush's veep picks
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(CNN) - Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, rumored to be among those under consideration for Mitt Romney's running mate, praised the presumptive GOP nominee's campaign on Wednesday for the way it has handled the vice presidential search, and made his own prediction for when Romney will announce his selection.

"I like the fact that the Boston campaign has kept it close to the vest. I think it's kind of humiliating for prospective candidates to be carted out in a public way. There's only gonna be one winner, right? So it's good to do it the way they are doing it," Bush said in an interview with WCPO, a local affiliate in Cincinnati.

Bush made his comments while in neighboring Hamilton, where he appeared at an event for Romney-his first official campaign appearance for the Republican candidate this cycle.

The former governor has previously said "under no circumstances" would he accept an offer to be Romney's running mate. And his son, George P. Bush, said on CNN last week that Jeb Bush is not being vetted by the Romney campaign.

But that didn't stop him from weighing in on the selection process Wednesday, saying he expects Romney to make his announcement "soon" or after he returns from his overseas trip, which he starts next week.

"Either way I think he's got a real wealth of choices to pick from," he said.

While speaking at the event, Bush made a few recommendations of his own for Romney's running mate. He argued Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida is a "fantastic young man" and Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio would be "equally good."

"It's a luxury of very good choices that he has," he said. "I'm looking forward to seeing who he picks."

Also in Ohio Wednesday, Romney told a crowd of supporters in Bowling Green that he has not yet decided on his running mate.

"I can assure you that even though I have not chosen the person who will be my vice president, that person will be a conservative, they will believe in conservative principles," Romney said.

Along with Bush and Romney, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal also campaigned Wednesday in Ohio, where he held an event in Columbus.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/18/jeb-bushs-veep-picks/

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #159 on: July 19, 2012, 11:01:47 AM »
jeb isn't the candidate tho.   Well, until romney resigns.

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #160 on: July 25, 2012, 12:21:33 PM »
Romney VP vetting chief mentions McDonnell
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Ashburn, Virginia (CNN) – The woman in charge of the secret search for a running mate for Mitt Romney made rare public comments on the vetting process itself on Tuesday.

In praising the "deep bench" of Republican vice presidential potentials, Beth Myers even mentioned one name that's sure to inflame the guessing game.

"One thing that is true is this year, we have a ton of qualified Republicans," Myers told a group of women voters in Ashburn, Virginia. "It is amazing. It made my job really, really hard. Because it wasn't a year where there were three people who might fit the bill."

"We have a deep bench, including your governor – an incredibly able guy," Myers added, referring to Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell.

"All sorts of really great people. And I'm sure that whoever Gov. Romney decides to pick will be a great addition to the ticket."

In May, McDonnell said in a radio interview that he was not being vetted by the Romney campaign and that he planned to finish his term as governor.

Myers is not known to make public comments about the VP search. During her speech, she used a personal anecdote to make that point clear.

"Wherever I go, and its been very strange, I can't tell [anybody] - because I'm a pretty open person - but I can't tell anybody about this, at all," Myers said. "I cant tell you who we're looking at, when we're going to make this decision – other than to say that it will be before the third night of the convention, sometime between now and then."

"And my children and husband are really kind of upset because they'll start - I can sort of tell they're plotting against me. And they'll have like this, dinner table, just a casual conversation, 'Gee, who would be a good VP?' And I just sit there silently."

The event was specifically geared towards courting Virginia's female vote. The state, which Obama won in 2008, is a pitched battleground. Also attending the event were Tiero Cuccinelli, wife of Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, Susan Allen, wife of GOP senate candidate George Allen, Virginia Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling's wife, Jean Ann Bolling, and Virginia Delegate Barbara Comstock.

All of them made several references to the need for female support to help Republicans in November.

"To win Virginia, we know that we've got to reach out to everyone. But especially to women voters," Bolling said.

Bolling added: "We need to get our message out and to convince the women to vote for Mitt Romney. Democrats say that they have an edge with women voters. But I say that our challenge, as Republican women for Mitt, is to change that dynamic and to change it here in Virginia."

But not all of it was pretty.

Cuccinelli, the attorney general's wife, opened her comments by saying, "I just want to say, I love being a Republican woman. I don't know about you all. But I think Republican women are more intelligent, more talented and you guys are a heck of a lot more beautiful than the other side."

Later, when asked by CNN to explain the comments, Cuccinelli said she meant no offense.

Myers has previously worked for Romney in several stints, including as his chief of staff during his Massachusetts governorship. In her comments, she ticked off the names of women in key posts during Romney's term and in Romney's campaigns.

She even used stories to play up Romney's personal appeal amid criticism that the candidate is too stiff.

Myers talked about Romney's former company, Bain Capital, helping to found the office supply store, Staples.

Romney "wasn't sitting up on high and sort of saying to people, 'You go do this'," Myers said. And she mentioned a video that exists showing "the day that the first Staples opened, of Mitt stocking the shelves and someone saying, 'No, no, no. It doesn't go there'."

"He's the kind of guy who gets in there and gets his hands dirty."

Myers also joked about Romney's sizable family, which includes 18 grandchildren.

The candidate "truly is happiest around Ann [Romney] and the boys. And his grandkids," Myers said.

Myers continued: "If you want to make money, bet somebody, if you go ask Ann Romney, if you see her, 'Is anyone expecting a baby?' I mean, it's a sure thing. And she'll always say, "Shhh, shhh - but how did you know?'"

"How did I know?" Myers continued, referring to a hypothetical conversation with Ann Romney. "It's always somebody pregnant in your family. And they're a beautiful family."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/24/romney-vp-vetting-chief-mentions-mcdonnell/

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #161 on: July 25, 2012, 01:11:30 PM »
we haven't had a rubio circle jerk in like 12 hours.   the guy would make a great veep ya know.  very experienced.

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #162 on: July 25, 2012, 07:31:27 PM »
I agree.

Jeb Bush Wants Romney to Choose Rubio for VP
Wednesday, 25 Jul 2012

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush says he thinks Sen. Marco Rubio is ready to be vice president and that he has shared those thoughts with Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

Romney has said the first-term senator from Florida is among those he is considering to be his running mate.

Romney is expected to announce a decision sometime before the Republican convention late next month in Tampa, Fla.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Bush says he pitched Rubio during a recent conversation he had with Romney. He says that Romney didn't indicate which way the search for a vice presidential candidate was taking him.

Bush left office in 2007 and remains influential in Florida and Republican politics.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Romney-JebBush/2012/07/25/id/446575

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #163 on: July 25, 2012, 07:35:02 PM »
I prefer jindal TBH. 

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« Reply #164 on: July 25, 2012, 07:54:46 PM »
right or wrong, the perceptoin will be delivered to mainstream voters that rubio isn't ready.

right or wrong, it WILL be the outcome.  ROmney knows it.  He doesn't want to be the uglier, older man on the ticket.  He'll choose a guy more like him.  watch and see.

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« Reply #165 on: July 25, 2012, 08:04:52 PM »
right or wrong, the perceptoin will be delivered to mainstream voters that rubio isn't ready.

right or wrong, it WILL be the outcome.  ROmney knows it.  He doesn't want to be the uglier, older man on the ticket.  He'll choose a guy more like him.  watch and see.

Jindal is the perfect pick IMHO. 

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #166 on: July 25, 2012, 08:39:29 PM »
Jindal is the perfect pick IMHO. 

no way dude.  THe same people who told CNN cameras "I voted hilary cause I dont like his skin color" or "he looks like an arab" will CERTAINLY pause at jindal's appearance.

I will agree that Portman is a 1-point swing.  He might give romney a point, or cost one.  Rubio?  I'd ssay he's a 4 point swing.  Might help more, but might hurt more.  I see romney as lifetime being risk-adverse.  Rubio gets the neocons wet... BUT... rubio was on the wrong side of dream.  Rubio hated the Arizona law.

Once yall GET him, you may realize you don't want him.


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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #167 on: July 26, 2012, 12:27:43 PM »
I prefer jindal TBH. 

Jindal would be a good pick.  I think Rubio would be better.  I also think most of the people rumored to be on the short list would be fine. 

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« Reply #168 on: July 26, 2012, 01:41:30 PM »
Jindal would be a good pick.  I think Rubio would be better.  I also think most of the people rumored to be on the short list would be fine. 

republicans hate obama so badly... ROmney could pick anyone and yall would declare him/her competent.   See: 2008.

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« Reply #169 on: July 26, 2012, 01:50:03 PM »
republicans hate obama so badly... ROmney could pick anyone and yall would declare him/her competent.   See: 2008.

People who are still memorized by Obama, defend almost everything he says and does, and regurgitate his talking points on a daily basis will criticize anyone Romney picks.  See:  2008 to 2012. 

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« Reply #170 on: July 26, 2012, 02:05:39 PM »
People who are still memorized by Obama, defend almost everything he says and does, and regurgitate his talking points on a daily basis will criticize anyone Romney picks.  See:  2008 to 2012. 

Thune would be an excellent choice.  Rubio would be problematic.

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« Reply #171 on: July 26, 2012, 02:10:37 PM »
Thune would be an excellent choice.  Rubio would be problematic.

Thune would be good.  Rubio would be better.  He will only be problematic for Team Kneepad.  But like I said, everyone on the alleged short list is good.

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« Reply #172 on: July 26, 2012, 02:29:20 PM »
Jindal is the perfect pick IMHO. 

Was just looking at his background again.  Very impressive.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal

Looked at Nikki Haley too.  Looks very good.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Haley

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #173 on: July 27, 2012, 11:55:40 AM »
Romney surrogates make Veep choices known
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(CNN) – As Mitt Romney tours London on the first stop of his overseas trip, prominent surrogates for the presumptive GOP nominee are making their choices for his running mate known stateside.

House Speaker John Boehner said Thursday he was rooting for Sen. Rob Portman, who, like Boehner, represents Ohio.

“I’m partial to Rob Portman,” Boehner said on Fox News. “I’ve been a long-time friend. He’s a United States senator from Ohio, served as the director of Office of Management and Budget under George W. Bush, also served as the U.S. trade rep, served in the House of Representatives as well. Knows his way around Washington, and I think he’d be a great asset for Governor Romney.”

Boehner seems to have narrowed his list since April, when he told CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley there were three names he had in mind for Romney’s running mate.
The top Republican in Congress said Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and Gov. Mitch Daniels of Indiana, along with Portman, fit his criteria that the pick be capable of serving as president.

"There are a lot of people that I like. But this is a personal choice for Gov. Romney, and I'm confident that he'll have a running mate that will be helpful to the ticket," Boehner told Crowley on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

"I think the number one quality is, are they capable of being president in the case of an emergency?" Boehner added.

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani offered a different name Thursday, saying he’d like to see Rubio picked. Giuliani said the Florida senator was “the most exciting” name floated for Romney’s running mate.

"He's of a different generation," Giuliani told News Channel 8 in Tampa. "He makes outreach much more possible to a younger people – people in their 30s where the Republican Party has a little bit of a deficit."

Meanwhile, several names floated as Romney’s choice have been stumping for the candidate while he embarks on a three-nation foreign tour.

Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana and Gov. Bob McDonnell of Virginia made several stops in Iowa Thursday. The two potential vice presidential choices teamed for an event in Coralville. McDonnell also stopped in Davenport, while Jindal held an event in Des Moines.

Sen. John Thune, R-South Dakota, also considered a possible Romney running mate, made an appearance for the campaign in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/27/romney-surrogates-make-veep-choices-known/

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Re: 2012 Vice President Candidates
« Reply #174 on: July 31, 2012, 08:06:15 PM »
Virginia sets example with another budget surplus, as McDonnell burnishes VP profile
Published July 31, 2012
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FILE: June 27, 2012: GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney with Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell at a campaign event in Sterling, Va. (AP)

Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell is touting his state's ability to do something many other governments could not -- end the year with a surplus, for three years running.

In times of budget strain and pain, the state's record begs a question. What's Virginia doing right?

McDonnell cited several keys to Virginia’s financial success during years of tough economic times, including a focus on economic development and job creation. “That is what’s driving the economic surplus,” he said.

But the governor also stresses another rule in Richmond which hasn't quite made its way to Washington. McDonnell says he told state Cabinet members and agency leaders early in the year to maintain quality service and pay their bills but don’t spend all of the money in their budgets – something the federal government has failed to do.

“That's what Washington does,” he said. “That’s why they have trillion-dollar deficits. There’s a lack of discipline.”

The rosy budget news, meanwhile, has allowed McDonnell to raise his stature as a potential vice presidential contender on the Mitt Romney ticket. While touting the state's finances this week, the governor rapped President Obama and Congress for their fiscal shortcomings.

McDonnell said Monday that Virginia has finished fiscal 2012 with roughly $129 million more in the general fund that forecasted. The state finished with a $311 million general-fund surplus in fiscal 2011 and a $220 million surplus in fiscal 2010.

He said the state’s unemployment rate of 5.7 percent, well below the national average of 8.2 percent, has resulted in a steady flow of income and sales taxes.

The state also is expected to report in mid-August as much as $100 million in savings and account balances left over from agencies, based on numbers from previous years.

As for Washington, McDonnell was especially critical of the massive, across-the-board spending cuts that will soon kick in because Congress failed to negotiate a balanced-budget deal.

“They basically hung the Sword of Damocles over everybody’s head,” he said.

McDonnell made clear dramatic cuts are need and blamed both political parties and chambers of Congress for the current budget crisis. However, he appeared most critical of Obama.

“The president has been invisible,” he said, “a bystander on this issue.”

The 58-year-old governor has appeared numerous times on the campaign trail with Romney.

McDonnell said this spring he was not a potential candidate, but over the past several weeks he has instead said he will not discuss the issue.

Still, McDonnell is on several short-lists for the job, with the Romney campaign recently mentioning his name and expected to make a pick within the next few weeks.

Virginia’s general fund pays for such core state services as public safety, health care and aid to public schools.

The surpluses, however, don’t represent year-over-year growth.

Collections for the fiscal year that ended in June 2009 were $14.3 billion, a 9.2 percent drop from almost $15.8 billion for the previous budget year just as Wall Street began a frightful slide.

One year later, fiscal year 2010 collections dipped to $14.2 billion, the smallest general revenue yield since 2006.

The rebound began in fiscal 2011, when collections barely topped $15 billion. Monday's report means general revenues are about at their 2008 levels, McDonnell said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/31/virginia-sets-example-with-another-budget-surplus-as-mcdonnell-burnishes-vp/?test=latestnews