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Weighted pushups are better then unsafe bench presses?
« on: April 22, 2012, 01:51:51 PM »
i like weighted pushups more then unsafe bench presses

plus pushups work your core

im thinking of setting up cinder blocks on my deck to support a barbell that is on a big thick peice of plywood

the barbell can be semi secured with screws so it doesnt roll off the plywood

the plywood is for semi even weight distribution say if the plywood is wide and long enough to cover your whole back

i find back packs are inferior you can get more than 60 pounds comfortably on you
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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2012, 01:56:04 PM »
any chance of getting pics of this kids wieghted pushup setup? i cant seem to pull up the pics

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=791585&page=1
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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2012, 01:59:36 PM »
The boring factor is strong in this one....


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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2012, 02:02:47 PM »
i like weighted pushups more then unsafe bench presses

plus pushups work your core

im thinking of setting up cinder blocks on my deck to support a barbell that is on a big thick peice of plywood

the barbell can be semi secured with screws so it doesnt roll off the plywood

the plywood is for semi even weight distribution say if the plywood is wide and long enough to cover your whole back

i find back packs are inferior you can get more than 60 pounds comfortably on you


step 1:  raise cinder block overhead
step 2: smash cinder block into skull
repeat until dead

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 02:11:57 PM »
any chance of getting pics of this kids wieghted pushup setup? i cant seem to pull up the pics

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=791585&page=1

thats actually not half bad.

why not a weighted vest, modified so you can have a couple of 45s on your back  ???




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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2012, 02:18:53 PM »
I have two dumbbells on the floor to position hands on when doing pushups to get a deeper range of motion,

I currently wear a backpack to put weights in

I keeping my feet resting on a chair,

sometimes the weights are not secured good on the back,

it's can be difficult

especially if the chair is an office chair

with coaster wheels on

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 02:26:32 PM »
thats actually not half bad.

why not a weighted vest, modified so you can have a couple of 45s on your back  ???





that looks to be the safest bet

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2012, 02:28:45 PM »
that setup might work with a back pack put on backwards, I might try something like that with two chairs on either side next time, this is getting interesting!

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2012, 02:44:59 PM »
hey johnny ! are you familiar with a , ross enamait? he's a boxing strength and conditioning coach. he pretty much makes all his own training equipment and shows us how on his youtube channel.

anyway, check him out. his youtube is fucking great, i'm sure he'll be right up your alley, so to speak !! check out all his homemade equipment.



his website/forum http://www.rosstraining.com/forum/

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2012, 02:48:54 PM »
i like weighted pushups more then unsafe bench presses

plus pushups work your core

im thinking of setting up cinder blocks on my deck to support a barbell that is on a big thick peice of plywood

the barbell can be semi secured with screws so it doesnt roll off the plywood

the plywood is for semi even weight distribution say if the plywood is wide and long enough to cover your whole back

i find back packs are inferior you can get more than 60 pounds comfortably on you

Good for either an auxiliary exercise or for beginners.  BTW, no machines.

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2012, 02:55:52 PM »
thats actually not half bad.

why not a weighted vest, modified so you can have a couple of 45s on your back  ???





That is the best idea.

They use to make a weighted push up machine, It looked like a old school T - bar row -

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with a small sled welded to the end of it, instead of the normal bar end -

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It was to much to get in and out off, you almost always needed a spotting partner.

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2012, 03:03:15 PM »
here ya go.. homemade weight vest

http://www.home-gym-bodybuilding.com/homemade-weight-vest.html

Homemade weight vest

Weight vests are an excellent way to add resistance to bodyweight exercises. Any exercise that you can do with bodyweight you can make harder with a weight vest.

For example, once you can do 3 sets of 25 push-ups with your bodyweight only, add a 10-20 pound weight vest and start again. When adding weight to the vest, always start light and work your way up. The bodies core muscles need time to adjust to the weight.

I found this quote while surfing the net: “The Israeli government set about to discover what form of exercise was best at developing cardiovascular fitness. Military and civilian workers as well as Olympic athletes were tested. As a group, the most cardiovascular fit individual was the mailman - the mailman, walking three to five miles per day, carrying 20-35 pounds. Tests soon demonstrated that walking with a weighted load was far and away the most effective exercise to develop and maintain cardiovascular fitness.”




In researching weight vests, I found there are short vests and longer vests. The longer vest covers your abs, reduces mobility and sometimes makes it harder to breath. A shorter vest worn higher on the torso allows you to breathe and move freely, and increases the load on your core muscles. Sit-ups are much more difficult if the weight is located higher on the torso.

Well made vests cost big bucks. You can buy cheap ones, but the reviews say they fall apart quickly. Highly recommended vests such as the ones made by weightvest.com cost $200 for a 50 pound vest!

I knew I had items lying around the garage that I could use to make a lower cost homemade weight vest.

To keep costs low, I wanted to utilize my existing Olympic weights as the weight source for my vest. Grip plates will work better than standard plates because they have four slots or holes to tie down the weight plate to the vest:


The vest itself is an old hockey shoulder pad:




You can find these on craigslist, eBay, garage sales etc. I played hockey for over thirty-five years, so I had a few pads lying around. The pad I used has a liner, which allows air flow, keeping me cool when I sweat. Perfect for a heavy, weight vest.

First, I cut the shoulder pads off of the vest, saving them for future homemade projects. Initially I tried just strapping the Olympic plate directly to the vest, but even though there’s hard plastic under the vest material and foam, it wasn’t sturdy enough to support the plate. I reinforced it by adding a piece of 3/8” plywood to the front and back of the vest:




I attached the plywood and strapping to the vest using 1/4 inch bolts, large fender washers, lock washers and nuts ($5 for all of the hardware at Home Depot, and I had the plywood scrap already). I figured the larger diameter fender washers would help keep the bolts from pulling through the vest and strap material.

Drilling the clearance holes through the vest material was a challenge because the material would get hung up in the bit. I ended up just ripping the material away so the bit would go through easier.

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2012, 03:03:28 PM »
That is the best idea.

They use to make a weighted push up machine, It looked like a old school T - bar row -

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with a small sled welded to the end of it, instead of the normal bar end -

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It was to much to get in and out off, you almost always needed a spotting partner.
yeah i dont want anything that require a spotter
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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2012, 03:06:00 PM »
Flip a tire, pull a sled, swing a sledgehammer, push a truck, carry a half full or full keg.

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2012, 03:09:11 PM »
Hang cleans, power cleans, snatches, clean and jerk.

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2012, 03:14:56 PM »
Hang cleans, power cleans, snatches, clean and jerk.
no as a natural you cant do these kids of exercises everyday withought messing up your lower back

however every other muscle recovers fine on a natural when worked everyday

except lower back

i bet most people take steroids cause they cant get over the set back of lower back pain from training deads and squats often
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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2012, 03:22:56 PM »
no as a natural you cant do these kids of exercises everyday withought messing up your lower back

however every other muscle recovers fine on a natural when worked everyday

except lower back

i bet most people take steroids cause they cant get over the set back of lower back pain from training deads and squats often

What do you mean "kids of exercises"? And yes, if you know how to program they can be done at least 4 days per week.

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2012, 03:38:03 PM »
What do you mean "kids of exercises"? And yes, if you know how to program they can be done at least 4 days per week.

no way in hell can you barbell squat, clean ect 4 days a week natural your back will be so tight from those explosive lifts (lower back)

however you can murder everyother bodypart and work through the soreness and progress with sufficient calories and overeating

no amount of overeating can get through lower back stress.  yes weighted lunges help a great deal but i cant do barbell squats and cleans that would be too much for my lower back
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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2012, 05:06:21 PM »
no way in hell can you barbell squat, clean ect 4 days a week natural your back will be so tight from those explosive lifts (lower back)

however you can murder everyother bodypart and work through the soreness and progress with sufficient calories and overeating

no amount of overeating can get through lower back stress.  yes weighted lunges help a great deal but i cant do barbell squats and cleans that would be too much for my lower back

Of course you can, its done everyday at almost every University in the country.

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2012, 06:06:13 PM »
Of course you can, its done everyday at almost every University in the country.
The thought of the 'co(ckro)ach' speculating on what goes on inside the walls of a University. As if he'd know.

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2012, 06:31:29 PM »
The thought of the 'co(ckro)ach' speculating on what goes on inside the walls of a University. As if he'd know.

Actually I would know turd. When are Coming to Calif (you wouldn't tell me anyway) so I can best the shit out of you? No explosives please.

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2012, 06:35:15 PM »
Actually I would know turd. When are Coming to Calif (you wouldn't tell me anyway) so I can best the shit out of you? No explosives please.
Taken the boat out yet to do any fishing?
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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2012, 06:42:24 PM »
Taken the boat out yet to do any fishing?

I don't fish much. Mostly Catalina but, haven't had time for shit exept working on the gym.

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2012, 06:45:43 PM »
Are the Angels already gonna lose the division before April is over, Joe? The Rangers look bulletproof. Easily the best team in basebal right now.

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Re: weighted pushup machine, what are your ideas?
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2012, 07:03:07 PM »
Are the Angels already gonna lose the division before April is over, Joe? The Rangers look bulletproof. Easily the best team in basebal right now.

I think I told you this last season. Because of Nolan Ryan I'm a Texas fan if it comes down to the Angels v Texas in a game. Against anyone else I'm an.Angels fan. They are getting off to a slow start, Pooholes, although no HR's he's on a 9 game hit streak. Gotta admit I'm not looking for miracles with a new roster, its going to take time.