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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2012, 12:39:28 PM »
doesn't the average cop has no more than a high school education?........

I'll give your sentence a try... I think you want to know if the average cop only has a high school education.

Generally, most departments of any significant size will have some minimum college hours required. For many of the more professional departments a 2 yr degree is required. But I'm sure given the vast number of agencies out there, some as small as 2 man "departments" you can find many that don't require any college.

Usually, there is an attempt to balance what you as a department would like the minimum criteria to be, with trying to get enough eligible candidates to fill the vacancies. If you set an associates as the minimum education, what will you do when you can't fill those vacancies with bodies? So it's a matter of setting reasonable criteria to get the best potential candidates and still have enough recruits to run your department


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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2012, 12:47:41 PM »
fuck tha police

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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2012, 12:52:56 PM »
I'll give your sentence a try... I think you want to know if the average cop only has a high school education.

Generally, most departments of any significant size will have some minimum college hours required. For many of the more professional departments a 2 yr degree is required. But I'm sure given the vast number of agencies out there, some as small as 2 man "departments" you can find many that don't require any college.

Usually, there is an attempt to balance what you as a department would like the minimum criteria to be, with trying to get enough eligible candidates to fill the vacancies. If you set an associates as the minimum education, what will you do when you can't fill those vacancies with bodies? So it's a matter of setting reasonable criteria to get the best potential candidates and still have enough recruits to run your department


i googled.  ;D NYPD Requires
Possess a valid high school diploma or its educational equivalent.

Successfully completed either sixty (60) college credits from an accredited college or university with at least a 2.0 GPA or two (2) years, full-time United States Military Service.
not hard to meet those requirements. I bet a lot of people try to join just for the power trip. :-\
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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2012, 02:14:22 PM »
i googled.  ;D NYPD Requires
Possess a valid high school diploma or its educational equivalent.

Successfully completed either sixty (60) college credits from an accredited college or university with at least a 2.0 GPA or two (2) years, full-time United States Military Service.
not hard to meet those requirements. I bet a lot of people try to join just for the power trip. :-\


No doubt they do. No doubt the police departments are aware of that motivation and try their best to pass on them. Departments aren't looking for law suits and probably don't enjoy paying out millions in law suits because of those power hungry thugs. I've sat on several boards for potential candidates for my department and we get pretty good at identifying those. Their background history can reveal those tendencies as well. But try as we might, some will slip thorugh and it is then up to their peers, supervisors and the community to identify them and get them removed.   

 

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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2012, 02:57:07 PM »
No doubt they do. No doubt the police departments are aware of that motivation and try their best to pass on them. Departments aren't looking for law suits and probably don't enjoy paying out millions in law suits because of those power hungry thugs. I've sat on several boards for potential candidates for my department and we get pretty good at identifying those. Their background history can reveal those tendencies as well. But try as we might, some will slip thorugh and it is then up to their peers, supervisors and the community to identify them and get them removed.   

 
How do you punished those that slip though?  ???
Is there any true to the rumors that police cover for the corrupted police?
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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2012, 03:26:16 PM »
How do you punished those that slip though?  ???
Is there any true to the rumors that police cover for the corrupted police?

I think it can't be denied that in some departments some police cover for some officers. That culture has been slowly erroding in the last 20 yrs but in many places it still exists. I think even in the worst departments there are officers that will report unethical or criminal behavior of other officers

Only speaking for the departments I'm familiar with and especially my own, it's more rare to see a cover up than to have an officer report an officer. The culture from day 1 of training has changed and it's accepted that if you screw up, you pay. Now there are probably situations where it still happens, but again, not very common. Most Internal Affairs complaints on officers originate from within the department than outside the department these days.

We have a discipline matrix we follow as for your first question. Depending on the seriousness of the offense it can be a written reprimand up to indefinite suspension   

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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2012, 09:17:01 AM »
How do you punished those that slip though?  ???
Is there any true to the rumors that police cover for the corrupted police?
Not rumors, Blue Shield has been happening since the forces began - we are talking about the enforcers of GOVERNMENT - do you really think the Government is going to let the Public know how sick and twisted they really are, no, this is why they spend trillions on keeping their populations brainwashed via propaganda and dodgy curriculum.  Don't listen to a Police officer, this shit goes all the way to the top, and the majority of officers are just pawns, they are just as afraid as the average citizen, the Police Force itself is a sophisticated criminal organisation, so successful in fact, they have convinced the Public that they are the good guys.  Amazing what Power and Money can do, the average citizen is far more likey to be caused trauma and suffering from it's own Government (especially Police) than they will ever face from any supposed criminal organisations.
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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2012, 09:24:57 AM »
HISTORY
Blue Code of Silence and police corruption stems from the mid-to-late nineteenth century. The Pinkerton National Detective Agency were known for using police officers to violently end strikes. Many members of the Ku Klux Klan were police officers that protected each other when conducting racist acts. This later gave rise to the Civil Rights Act of 1964,which gave new protections to citizens who had long suffered discriminatory policing.
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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2012, 10:33:51 AM »
HISTORY
Blue Code of Silence and police corruption stems from the mid-to-late nineteenth century. The Pinkerton National Detective Agency were known for using police officers to violently end strikes. Many members of the Ku Klux Klan were police officers that protected each other when conducting racist acts. This later gave rise to the Civil Rights Act of 1964,which gave new protections to citizens who had long suffered discriminatory policing.
DAmn, that is totally fucked.
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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2012, 10:51:51 AM »
HISTORY
Blue Code of Silence and police corruption stems from the mid-to-late nineteenth century. The Pinkerton National Detective Agency were known for using police officers to violently end strikes. Many members of the Ku Klux Klan were police officers that protected each other when conducting racist acts. This later gave rise to the Civil Rights Act of 1964,which gave new protections to citizens who had long suffered discriminatory policing.
good posts, we are on the same wave length. not sure if you posted this on the thread about your screen name meaning but is yours an acronym for school en francias?

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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #60 on: May 27, 2012, 11:59:18 AM »
NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram Penis in Suspect's Mouth

New York City Police Sgt. Lesly Charles may have a long penis but he’s short on brains, never realizing a suspect was video recording as he threatened to ram his lengthy penis in the suspect’s mouth.
 
Charles also threatened to ram his pistol inside the man’s anus before telling him he had a pretty face.
 
Charles also told the man, who was getting harassed for parking illegally, that he didn’t mind the “hustling” as long as he paid him respect.

http://www.pixiq.com/article/cop-caught-on-video-threatening-to-ram-penis-in-suspects-mouth



“I have the long d--k. You don’t,” the cop bragged.
 
“Your pretty face — I like it very much. My d--k will go in your mouth and come out your ear. Don’t f--k with me. All right?”
 
After the target of his tirade insisted, “I didn’t do anything,” Charles retorted, “Listen to me. When you see me, you look the other way. Tell your boys, I don’t f--k around. All right?”
 
“I’ll take my gun and put it up your a-- and then I’ll call your mother afterwards. You understand that?”
 
For good measure, the sergeant added: “And I’ll put your s--t in your own mouth.”

Had that been a man saying that to a woman,the cops would have labeled him a perv and  locked him up..!? 

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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #61 on: May 27, 2012, 10:16:35 PM »
DAmn, that is totally fucked.

There's always power in numbers no matter what the topic. Cops are human so its obvious that they would form a tribe-like atmosphere among the work force. The police force is almost like a religion. Try to find people who go against scientology. Sure they're out there, but there few and far between.

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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #62 on: May 27, 2012, 10:18:46 PM »
Any college kid who joins a Sorority shows the early signs that he can be brainwashed and work for the Hierarchy

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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #63 on: May 28, 2012, 07:31:09 AM »
There's always power in numbers no matter what the topic. Cops are human so its obvious that they would form a tribe-like atmosphere among the work force. The police force is almost like a religion. Try to find people who go against scientology. Sure they're out there, but there few and far between.
The difference between Scientology and similar groups vs police. Is that that we the tax payers fund the police and trust them with a sense of duty and power.
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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #64 on: May 28, 2012, 07:48:02 AM »
HISTORY
Blue Code of Silence and police corruption stems from the mid-to-late nineteenth century. The Pinkerton National Detective Agency were known for using police officers to violently end strikes. Many members of the Ku Klux Klan were police officers that protected each other when conducting racist acts. This later gave rise to the Civil Rights Act of 1964,which gave new protections to citizens who had long suffered discriminatory policing.

But.. with August Volmer and the establishment of a new era of "professionalism" and the advent of the IACP steps had been taken dating back to the 20's to create a more professional department. Everything you said is accurate, but this is not your grandfathers era and things are rapidly evolving. In the last 10 yrs for example, departments have increased college hours required. Many mid to large departments are going to or have gone to video. Departments are offering West Point Leadership Academy training to supervisors as well as many other opportunities for training and improvement. Our department developed a Leadership Command College that all Lieutenants are required to attend. Then there is long term training like the FBI Academy as well. Sorry that you and others feel the way you do. Certainly there are  examples on youtube that can lead a person down that trail. But with 100's of thousands of positive and uneventful citizen contacts each year, you are looking at a very small percentage. Hopefully we can reduce that percentage even more.   

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« Reply #65 on: May 28, 2012, 08:01:15 AM »
But.. with August Volmer and the establishment of a new era of "professionalism" and the advent of the IACP steps had been taken dating back to the 20's to create a more professional department. Everything you said is accurate, but this is not your grandfathers era and things are rapidly evolving. In the last 10 yrs for example, departments have increased college hours required. Many mid to large departments are going to or have gone to video. Departments are offering West Point Leadership Academy training to supervisors as well as many other opportunities for training and improvement. Our department developed a Leadership Command College that all Lieutenants are required to attend. Then there is long term training like the FBI Academy as well. Sorry that you and others feel the way you do. Certainly there are  examples on youtube that can lead a person down that trail. But with 100's of thousands of positive and uneventful citizen contacts each year, you are looking at a very small percentage. Hopefully we can reduce that percentage even more.   
Hard to respect a Government that uses Riot Squads to intimidate, harass and beat citizens during lawful protests, using Tasers, batons and other Government legislation to punish citizens for little or no infractions without any trial.  Here in Australia, the deep level of corruption is well known amongst those that matter with retired Royal Commissioners reporting on how entrenched and possibly unfixable it all is.  The average citizen can just hope and pray the officer they run into is having A GOOD DAY!  The sad fact is, the Police force has become a attitude police force, taking away dissent and anti establishment behaviour serving a Political Corporate Elite.  The crooks rarely get caught and are often largely intertwined with Officialdom at the highest level.  Jails are full of poor people and drug users, people who were used and abused by this intolerable system in the first place.  The whole thing is disgusting, the end game for these Elitists is too have one sovereign World Army or Power that no other force can rise against - the police are just part of the whole thing - slowly enforcing unjust and corrupt legislation on it's fellow citizens.  As a human being who believes that causing another human being suffering also creates suffering within myself, I find it highly disturbing how comfortable the average police person is with dehumanizing and perpetrating violent acts on unarmed non threatening civilians.
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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #66 on: May 28, 2012, 08:03:15 AM »
Hard to respect a Government that uses Riot Squads to intimidate, harass and beat citizens during lawful protests, using Tasers, batons and other Government legislation to punish citizens for little or no infractions without any trial.  Here in Australia, the deep level of corruption is well known amongst those that matter with retired Royal Commissioners reporting on how entrenched and possibly unfixable it all is.  The average citizen can just hope and pray the officer they run into is having A GOOD DAY!  The sad fact is, the Police force has become a attitude police force, taking away dissent and anti establishment behaviour serving a Political Corporate Elite.  The crooks rarely get caught and are often largely intertwined with Officialdom at the highest level.  Jails are full of poor people and drug users, people who were used and abused by this intolerable system in the first place.  The whole thing is disgusting, the end game for these Elitists is too have one sovereign World Army or Power that no other force can rise against - the police are just part of the whole thing - slowly enforcing unjust and corrupt legislation on it's fellow citizens.  As a human being who believes that causing another human being suffering also creates suffering within myself, I find it highly disturbing how comfortable the average police person is with dehumanizing and perpetrating violent acts on unarmed non threatening civilians.

I'd find it hard to respect that type of government too.

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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #67 on: May 28, 2012, 09:42:37 AM »
Hard to respect a Government that uses Riot Squads to intimidate, harass and beat citizens during lawful protests, using Tasers, batons and other Government legislation to punish citizens for little or no infractions without any trial.  Here in Australia, the deep level of corruption is well known amongst those that matter with retired Royal Commissioners reporting on how entrenched and possibly unfixable it all is.  The average citizen can just hope and pray the officer they run into is having A GOOD DAY!  The sad fact is, the Police force has become a attitude police force, taking away dissent and anti establishment behaviour serving a Political Corporate Elite.  The crooks rarely get caught and are often largely intertwined with Officialdom at the highest level.  Jails are full of poor people and drug users, people who were used and abused by this intolerable system in the first place.  The whole thing is disgusting, the end game for these Elitists is too have one sovereign World Army or Power that no other force can rise against - the police are just part of the whole thing - slowly enforcing unjust and corrupt legislation on it's fellow citizens.  As a human being who believes that causing another human being suffering also creates suffering within myself, I find it highly disturbing how comfortable the average police person is with dehumanizing and perpetrating violent acts on unarmed non threatening civilians.
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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #68 on: May 28, 2012, 09:49:56 AM »
I'd find it hard to respect that type of government too.

Too bad that's what a big part of the US government is.

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« Reply #69 on: May 30, 2012, 12:01:00 PM »
Too bad that's what a big part of the US government is.

It's debatable that the US is to that level, I don't think they are, but that's my opinion. I do think the government is out of control in many aspects, but it's only because we have shown them we will let them. Our most potent tool against such a government, voting, is rarely used. I think we had less than a 20% turn out last week in some local elections. 

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« Reply #70 on: May 30, 2012, 02:17:33 PM »
It's debatable that the US is to that level, I don't think they are, but that's my opinion. I do think the government is out of control in many aspects, but it's only because we have shown them we will let them. Our most potent tool against such a government, voting, is rarely used. I think we had less than a 20% turn out last week in some local elections. 

We can debate, but you would be wrong.

You can't argue the facts:

Incarceration rate in the USA for federal and state prisons in 2007 was the highest in history of the country. It was 5.5 times greater than the sharp peak that occurred during the Great Depression at 137 per 100,000 in 1939.[36] But historically, the current US incarceration rate is still slightly lower than the record-high Soviet Union's levels before World War II when the USSR's population reached 168 million, and 1.2 to 1.5 million people were in the Gulag system's prison camps and colonies (i.e. about 800 people imprisoned per 100,000 residents, according to numbers from Anne Applebaum and Steven Rosefielde). The Soviet Union's incarceration rates from 1934 to 1953 were historically the world's highest for a modern age country, according to The Gulag Archipelago book by Nobel Prize winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

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« Reply #71 on: May 30, 2012, 06:58:23 PM »
We can debate, but you would be wrong.

You can't argue the facts:

Incarceration rate in the USA for federal and state prisons in 2007 was the highest in history of the country. It was 5.5 times greater than the sharp peak that occurred during the Great Depression at 137 per 100,000 in 1939.[36] But historically, the current US incarceration rate is still slightly lower than the record-high Soviet Union's levels before World War II when the USSR's population reached 168 million, and 1.2 to 1.5 million people were in the Gulag system's prison camps and colonies (i.e. about 800 people imprisoned per 100,000 residents, according to numbers from Anne Applebaum and Steven Rosefielde). The Soviet Union's incarceration rates from 1934 to 1953 were historically the world's highest for a modern age country, according to The Gulag Archipelago book by Nobel Prize winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

Those facts.. don't support the original statement.. So I'm not sure what you are trying to show

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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #72 on: May 30, 2012, 07:45:57 PM »
Those facts.. don't support the original statement.. So I'm not sure what you are trying to show

Are you really trying to be dense?


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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #73 on: May 30, 2012, 07:58:09 PM »
Are you really trying to be dense?



He is a cop - what do you expect? 

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Re: NYPD Cop Caught on Video Threatening to Ram P---- in Suspect's Mouth
« Reply #74 on: May 31, 2012, 06:31:45 AM »
He is a cop - what do you expect? 

Well, one thing I don't expect is a couple of you to be unbiased and actually approach the subject rationally. Lost that expectation awhile back. Talking about incarceration rates doesn't speak at all the the original picture painted by Kul. Sorry you can't see that.