Dorian Yates - two pics - very good quality

[NeoSeminole]

funny how many people were at these shows (yates and ronnie olympias) and tell it like it was and people disregard this.

tell me about it

Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."

Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49

"We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever - unbeatable."

Lonnie Teper - MD, December 2005

"I've always said that it's too hard to compare athletes of different eras (then he names a few Mr. Olympias including Dorian). Still, it's hard to imagine that anybody who's ever stepped on a bodybuilding stage could have beaten Coleman. So I reserve the right to change my mind on this one. No offense to the rest of the champs - you were/are all truly amazing physique athletes - but Coleman has really taken it to the next level, as all magnificent conquerors do."

Tony Doherty - Heavy Muscle Radio (03-16-09)

"Ronnie is the best ever. No one even comes close."

Tony Doherty - http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=270388.msg3803035#msg3803035

"Absolutely no question. The best ever, I have seen them and worked with them all. Seeing Ronnie in 2003 was like looking into the future!"

Raymond Cassar - Muscletime Editor and Photographer

"There is no one alive that can beat Ronnie Coleman when he is at his best - No One! (and his best for me was when he won the 2001 Arnold Classic)"

http://www.muscletime.com/news/contest-results/2007-mr-olympia-analysis

Steve Blechman - MD, February 2004

"Ronnie Coleman is not only the greatest Mr. O of all time, he is also one of the oldest"

Chris Lund (Paraphrased by Milos Sarcev) - European Flex, April 2004

"Chris Lund who I consider to be a great expert in our sport of bodybuilding, told me that Ronnie is simply the best bodybuilder he has ever seen, or photographed, and he has seen everybody, during the last 35 years."

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=237938.0

Shawn Ray – Flex, Janurary 2003

"Most formidable competitor: Ronnie Coleman is in a class by himself. I honestly believe that Ronnie Coleman is unbeatable unless he beats himself. "

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Mike Matarazzo – Flex, January 1999

"I think this creature from another planet, Ronnie Coleman, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten Dorian Yates. Ronnie has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived."

Jean Pierre Fux - Personal Website

"The current Mr. Olympia (Ronnie Coleman). In top shape, probably the best physique that ever stepped on stage."

Nasser El Sonbaty – http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/greatest-olympia-winner-of-all-time.htm

"Without any doubt I feel the best Mr. Olympia winner ever is Ronnie Coleman. If you take a look at Coleman in his prime, compared to any one of the other Mr. Olympia winners in theirs, you could say that Ronnie had more size and hardness and greater longevity."

Francis Benfatto – http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/greatest-olympia-winner-of-all-time.htm

"In my opinion the best Mr. Olympia winner of all time was Ronnie Coleman, especially when Ronnie was in top condition shape, dry and shredded. At that time, Ronnie even managed to combine aesthetics and size; he then personified the best total package to win the Mr. Olympia."

[haider]

[NarcissisticDeity]

tell me about it

I will 


Q ] When people talk of the greatest Olympian's Ronnie's name is usually high on the list. In fact, he is

widely regarded as the best bodybuilder of all time.


 Samir Bannout : [ A ] I hate to say this but they are blind. People that don't approve of what we are

talking about right now are blind. You have to understand. Look, Ronnie Coleman is probably the most

muscular bodybuilder ever. If he could have drawn a better picture of himself on the stage he would have

had more appeal, but he did not. He makes himself look worse






Vic Richards on Romano & Palumbo radio show 2010.

" To say Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder is an insult , he doesn't even come in the top 12 "







And ANY quote you post is suspect because I busted you editing quotes and omitting parts 

[NeoSeminole]

I will

Q ] When people talk of the greatest Olympian's Ronnie's name is usually high on the list. In fact, he is widely regarded as the best bodybuilder of all time.

Samir Bannout : [ A ] I hate to say this but they are blind. People that don't approve of what we are talking about right now are blind. You have to understand. Look, Ronnie Coleman is probably the most muscular bodybuilder ever. If he could have drawn a better picture of himself on the stage he would have had more appeal, but he did not. He makes himself look worse

First, this quote does not have a source. So you made it up for all we know, and we all know that your word means nothing (see the ND bet that I quoted earlier where you bet your account and lost )

Second, Samir is clearly talking about Ronnie when he competes at a heavier weight. Notice he says "Ronnie is probably the most muscular." He also says Ronnie makes himself look worse, which is in reference to how Ronnie keeps getting bigger every year. Only an illiterate person would misconstrue Samir's quote to mean he was talking about Ronnie's 98 Mr. O or 01 ASC physique

Third, Samir never competed against Ronnie, at least not during Ronnie's Mr. Olympia reign. I quoted guys who stood on stage with both men at their prime. Flex Wheeler, Paul Dillet, Mike Matarazzo, Jean Pierre Fux, and Nasser El Sonbaty all said that Ronnie has the best physique ever.

Vic Richards on Romano & Palumbo radio show 2010.

" To say Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder is an insult , he doesn't even come in the top 12 "

And ANY quote you post is suspect because I busted you editing quotes and omitting parts

lol @ quoting Vic Richards. Next you're going to start quoting Gregg Valentino

[NarcissisticDeity]

First, this quote does not have a source. So you made it up for all we know, and we all know that your word means nothing (see the ND bet that I quoted earlier where you bet your account and lost )

Second, Samir is clearly talking about Ronnie when he competes at a heavier weight. Notice he says "Ronnie is probably the most muscular." He also says Ronnie makes himself look worse, which is in reference to how Ronnie keeps getting bigger every year. Only an illiterate person would misconstrue Samir's quote to mean he was talking about Ronnie's 98 Mr. O or 01 ASC physique

Third, Samir never competed against Ronnie, at least not during Ronnie's Mr. Olympia reign. I quoted guys who stood on stage with both men at their prime. Flex Wheeler, Paul Dillet, Mike Matarazzo, Jean Pierre Fux, and Nasser El Sonbaty all said that Ronnie has the best physique ever.

lol @ quoting Vic Richards. Next you're going to start quoting Gregg Valentino

First, this quote does not have a source. So you made it up for all we know, and we all know that your word means nothing (see the ND bet that I quoted earlier where you bet your account and lost

Oh I see the diversionary tactic to me busting you deliberately tampering with quotes is to question mine , this is why you will always get owned because you don't think things out kid it's why you'll never be on my level  

First this quote most certainly has a source , I told you the source before when you questioned me and I told you it was from an interview on Bodybuilding.com and that I didn't care to provide a link because my word is GOLD and I don't tamper with quotes like you and Hulkster have been busted doing

And yes my word is GOLD because when I bet my account I asked him if he wanted me to delete it and he said no   but you know this because I already point that out. Anyway back to your nonsense , All you had to do dummy is ' cut , copy and paste ' my quote into www.Google.com and the interview with Samir would have came up  


http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/samir_bannout_interview2.htm

Second, Samir is clearly talking about Ronnie when he competes at a heavier weight. Notice he says "Ronnie is probably the most muscular." He also says Ronnie makes himself look worse, which is in reference to how Ronnie keeps getting bigger every year. Only an illiterate person would misconstrue Samir's quote to mean he was talking about Ronnie's 98 Mr. O or 01 ASC physique

First you question it's authenticity and then comment on what he really means when you have no context on the topic at all LMFAO  only a fucking idiot would do that , go read what he meant and if you need any help with comprehension let the teacher know and I'll be more than happy to school you some more.  

Third, Samir never competed against Ronnie, at least not during Ronnie's Mr. Olympia reign. I quoted guys who stood on stage with both men at their prime. Flex Wheeler, Paul Dillet, Mike Matarazzo, Jean Pierre Fux, and Nasser El Sonbaty all said that Ronnie has the best physique ever.

There is a an old saying ' The Devil is in the detail ' Neo this is why I call you dumb , because you don't research anything and then have the balls to type contradictory things and have the balls to act like you know what you're talking about , WRONG yet again , Samir has competed against Ronnie , and he has seen Ronnie during his prime as well because where do you think I got the comment about Ronnie having the second best back compared to Dorian from? he was at the Olympia

He's a professional he doesn't have to be on-stage with him to have an opinion neither do the judges , and keep trying to push your popular opinion as fact , it failed for you the last time and it's not working now.

ol @ quoting Vic Richards. Next you're going to start quoting Gregg Valentino

or Ryan Mackie   now only if you could quote people in context and not play with their words but hey you've matured  

[NeoSeminole]

First this quote most certainly has a source , I told you the source before when you questioned me and I told you it was from an interview on Bodybuilding.com and that I didn't care to provide a link because my word is GOLD and I don't tamper with quotes like you and Hulkster have been busted doing

And yes my word is GOLD because when I bet my account I asked him if he wanted me to delete it and he said no but you know this because I already point that out. Anyway back to your nonsense , All you had to do dummy is ' cut , copy and paste ' my quote into www.Google.com and the interview with Samir would have came up

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/samir_bannout_interview2.htm

First you question it's authenticity and then comment on what he really means when you have no context on the topic at all LMFAO  only a fucking idiot would do that , go read what he meant and if you need any help with comprehension let the teacher know and I'll be more than happy to school you some more.

There is a an old saying ' The Devil is in the detail ' Neo this is why I call you dumb , because you don't research anything and then have the balls to type contradictory things and have the balls to act like you know what you're talking about , WRONG yet again , Samir has competed against Ronnie , and he has seen Ronnie during his prime as well because where do you think I got the comment about Ronnie having the second best back compared to Dorian from? he was at the Olympia

He's a professional he doesn't have to be on-stage with him to have an opinion neither do the judges , and keep trying to push your popular opinion as fact , it failed for you the last time and it's not working now.

no wonder you were scared to post the source. Taken from the same interview:

Samir Bannout

"I saw Ronnie Coleman about three years ago. I had a prince named Prince Yasab Al Trarndy and he came out here to see the show and we went out to Vegas together. We went up to Ronnie's room and Ronnie posed for us and I will tell you I have never seen anything like it in my life in terms of muscle mass and quality."

Thank you

[NarcissisticDeity]

no wonder you were scared to post the source. Taken from the same interview:

Samir Bannout

"I saw Ronnie Coleman about three years ago. I had a prince named Prince Yasab Al Trarndy and he came out here to see the show and we went out to Vegas together. We went up to Ronnie's room and Ronnie posed for us and I will tell you I have never seen anything like it in my life in terms of muscle mass and quality."

Thank you

Yeah so scared I just did  at least we know you have one quote that's accurate 

sucks Neo as usual you don't have a fucking clue on what you're talking about and you troll in yet another Yates thread and what happens? I smack the shit out of you 

Samir Bannout who had one of the best backs mind you on Cutler 2001

Jay Cutler blows the other bodybuilders away with the crisp detail of his muscularity from top to bottom. He has superior calves, hamstrings and glutes. His back is detailed and big, but it does not match up well against Ronnie, who has the second-best back in the history of bodybuilding behind the great Dorian Yates

Ronnie has the second best back behind the great Dorian Yates

You can thank me for that one as well  psssssstttt no need to question if it's accurate either 

[James28]

Not even a question if Yates's back is better than Ronnie's. Other bodyparts I'm willing to believe, but no fucking way on the back.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Not even a question if Yates's back is better than Ronnie's. Other bodyparts I'm willing to believe, but no fucking way on the back.

At the same weight NO contest , Dorian has everything Ronnie does and more.

[NeoSeminole]

Yeah so scared I just did at least we know you have one quote that's accurate

sucks Neo as usual you don't have a fucking clue on what you're talking about and you troll in yet another Yates thread and what happens? I smack the shit out of you

Samir Bannout who had one of the best backs mind you on Cutler 2001

Jay Cutler blows the other bodybuilders away with the crisp detail of his muscularity from top to bottom. He has superior calves, hamstrings and glutes. His back is detailed and big, but it does not match up well against Ronnie, who has the second-best back in the history of bodybuilding behind the great Dorian Yates

Ronnie has the second best back behind the great Dorian Yates

You can thank me for that one as well psssssstttt no need to question if it's accurate either

like I give a crap about who Samir thinks has the best back after he said Ronnie has the best muscle mass and quality he's ever seen

Samir Bannout – An Interview with the Lion of Lebanon (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"I saw Ronnie Coleman about three years ago. I had a prince named Prince Yasab Al Trarndy and he came out here to see the show and we went out to Vegas together. We went up to Ronnie's room and Ronnie posed for us and I will tell you I have never seen anything like it in my life in terms of muscle mass and quality."

[NeoSeminole]

At the same weight NO contest , Dorian has everything Ronnie does and more.

lol, is that why Peter McGough said Ronnie had the best back in the 97 Mr. Olympia even though Dorian competed at his biggest?

[NeoSeminole]

trolololol

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol, is that why Peter McGough said Ronnie had the best back in the 97 Mr. Olympia even though Dorian competed at his biggest?

One snap , caught LYING again  said he has the best back double biceps shot at the show and that means what? Dorian at a career worse LMFAO

What place was Ronnie in 1997  Oh that's right 9th to Dorian's first looks like the people who matter you know the judges said Dorian had the best back double biceps shot in that show 

LMFAO Neo keep trying like Ronnie trying to compete with Dorian in his heyday you have NOTHING for me 

[NarcissisticDeity]

trolololol

 

Oppps that's been amended sport , nice try

and here is the strong argument

[NeoSeminole]

lol @ ND's attempts at damage control. Brb, quoting Samir - backfire

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol @ ND's attempts at damage control. Brb, quoting Samir - backfire

Poor Neo not having much luck are you? every turn you make you're fucked kid 

NOT in my league kid

[NeoSeminole]

anyway, I'm done with this thread. I've already dismantled every single argument you've presented in your defense of Dorian. I might post again if you come up with a new argument. Until then, I'm out

[Shockwave]

anyway, I'm done with this thread. I've already dismantled every single argument you've presented in your defense of Dorian. I might post again if you come up with a new argument. Until then, I'm out

Thank god.
All it takes is one petulant child to walk away for the insanity to end.

(Not that im one to talk)

[NarcissisticDeity]

anyway, I'm done with this thread. I've already dismantled every single argument you've presented in your defense of Dorian. I might post again if you come up with a new argument. Until then, I'm out

LMFAO you're correct about one thing you are done , just not in the context you mean 

Neo can't handle the heat  at least Hulkster the moron didn't come back after his beating , you should learn from him. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Thank god.
All it takes is one petulant child to walk away for the insanity to end.

(Not that im one to talk)

He's done because he's fucking owned like his dumb buddy Hulkster , both of high tailed it out with their tail between their legs after a brutal embarrassment

Dummies can't just stay out of a Dorian Yates thread , serves them both right.

[James28]

I think were a lot of people go wrong is that they champion their FAVOURITE bodybuilder instead of the BEST bodybuilder, e.g, that fits the criteria best. Sometimes it's hard to separate your bias from reality.

[RocketSwitch625]

Semenole proving how much he likes the Shadow on another forum:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=130055053&page=1

 

[Immortal_Technique]

almost matches him in muscular bulk? and you came to this conclusion how? Dorian at his best precontest in the B&W pics is 269lbs , on-stage in 1993 257lbs in 1993 , Phil 240lbs at 1" shorter , don't know what school of math you went to but you need to go back , Dorian was 242lbs in 1992 again what new level is Phil bringing?  

Better symmetry? LMFAO I almost don't want to dignify this with a response , symmetry in what context? because recall it has multiple means , small waist and hips? small joints better taper? wider clavicles? you couldn't accurately say unless they were both standing side-by-side but we know for a fact Phil's taper isn't as good and neither is his clavicle width , and this wouldn't be an an advantage entertaing it were true and why? because Dorian always beat people who did

Balance? no explanation on how or why he has better balance , we'll just take your word for it  

Definition? where?   elaborate on your claims don't just assert them

fullness? see above

Does Phil carry more muscular bulk than Dorian? NO 257lbs in 1993 Olympia , B&W photos 269lbs and he's about 1" 1/2 taller Phil 240lbs , conditioning?

Does Phil show any new level of conditioning that Dorian never did? Ummmmm NO Dorian's conditioning is legendary , Phil's good for a pro in this day and age doesn't say much and most

Phil's an awesome bodybuilder and like Dorian one of the most complete Mr Olympias but he's not bringing anything new that hasn't been done years before

Flex and Phil are a lot alike structurally both narrow in the clavicles but Phil appears more thick and Flex more streamlined the difference between the two is shape , Flex's shape stands alone and his truly tiny joints and proportions , Flex has the shape and aesthetics Phil doesn't

Dorian looks outstanding at his best from all angles , Phil doesn't Dorian would easily collect more mandatories

Weight means nothing, hope this helps

[NarcissisticDeity]

Weight means nothing, hope this helps

Yeah sure it doesn't 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Semenole proving how much he likes the Shadow on another forum:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=130055053&page=1

 

That dummy got busted using MY fucking arguments for Yates on another boards and he got called on it lol his ownage spreads across the net 

Neo will know what this pic is