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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2012, 02:35:27 PM »
LOL!!!!  

YOU ARE ASKING A FALSE QUESTION!  The exit poll was wrong.  

Why is that so hard for you to understand?   T H E  E X I T  P O L L   W A S  W R O N G



AGAIN - FOR YOU LIBTARDS -  THE EXIT POLL WAS WRONG   



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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2012, 02:36:55 PM »


 ::)  ::)


Whatever - i proved that the exit poll was worthless, and obama drones are still grasping to dear life to it thinking Obama has a prayer in Nov. 

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2012, 02:38:59 PM »

Oh STFU you whiney baby.  The issue is the msm fostering a lie and the delusional obama drones acting like its legit.  

AGAIN - FOR YOU IDIOTS

Why can't you fools understand this?  
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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #53 on: June 06, 2012, 02:58:21 PM »
LOL, would you like to borrow my avatar :D



Nice job derailing the thread, moderator.  ::)

Couldn't make it through the last page without having to scroll through a dozen shitty, off-topic posts by you.



As for the thread, I don't know if it was pointed out because I couldn't tell with all of Hugo's spam but the exit polls are anything but accurate. The exit polls last night had Walked and Barrett tied and we saw how that worked out. We also see the same type of numbers with regards to gay marriage (even happened in NC) yet it gets crushed when people are in the booths by themselves.




"In any case, it is hardly promising for Obama that his supporters are boasting that he has a single-digit lead in a state the Democrats have carried in the past six presidential elections, and where his 2008 margin of victory was 13 points. What's more, Politico reports that "Obama campaign manager Jim Messina listed Wisconsin as a toss-up in a video message to supporters this week." Maddow and Kos need to set him straight."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303753904577450550752099134.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2012, 03:07:00 PM »
Nice job derailing the thread, moderator.  ::)

Couldn't make it through the last page without having to scroll through a dozen shitty, off-topic posts by you.



As for the thread, I don't know if it was pointed out because I couldn't tell with all of Hugo's spam but the exit polls are anything but accurate. The exit polls last night had Walked and Barrett tied and we saw how that worked out. We also see the same type of numbers with regards to gay marriage (even happened in NC) yet it gets crushed when people are in the booths by themselves.




"In any case, it is hardly promising for Obama that his supporters are boasting that he has a single-digit lead in a state the Democrats have carried in the past six presidential elections, and where his 2008 margin of victory was 13 points. What's more, Politico reports that "Obama campaign manager Jim Messina listed Wisconsin as a toss-up in a video message to supporters this week." Maddow and Kos need to set him straight."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303753904577450550752099134.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion



Hey - exit polls are more reliable than the actual vote tally! 

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2012, 03:24:20 PM »
Nice job derailing the thread, moderator.  ::)

looked more like Ozmo wanted to talk and 3333 wanted to flip out.  If you don't like what I've done here, go cry to Ron about it.  3333 does this shit all the time and that's what derails threads into useless shit slinging.

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2012, 03:28:13 PM »
looked more like Ozmo wanted to talk and 3333 wanted to flip out.  If you don't like what I've done here, go cry to Ron about it.  3333 does this shit all the time and that's what derails threads into useless shit slinging.

This thread is an example of the lies of the left and the lies of the msm that are used to create false narratives and brainwash the public.

I conclusivesly proved this article is pure horeshit by using even the most basic common sense, but apparently for Obama voters that is too much.

BTW - my first posts were very sensible and the refusal of some idiots to grasp the way they are being lied to and brainwashed by the msm is beyond my comprehension.   

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #57 on: June 06, 2012, 03:42:07 PM »
This thread is an example of the lies of the left and the lies of the msm that are used to create false narratives and brainwash the public.

I conclusivesly proved this article is pure horeshit by using even the most basic common sense, but apparently for Obama voters that is too much.

BTW - my first posts were very sensible and the refusal of some idiots to grasp the way they are being lied to and brainwashed by the msm is beyond my comprehension.   

tool is, tool does.

BTW, birther, you don't the meaning of the word conclusively and your credibility is such. 

Either the poll is inaccurate due to lying/foul play or not. 


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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2012, 03:45:36 PM »
tool is, tool does.

BTW, birther, you don't the meaning of the word conclusively and your credibility is such. 

Either the poll is inaccurate due to lying/foul play or not. 



IT WAS INACCURATE BASED ON THE ACTUAL VOTE TALLY! 

AGAIN - THE SAME EXIT POLL YOU OBAMA DRONES ARE JIZZING OVER HAD WALKER/BARRETT TIED 50/50!



THE POLL WAS WRONG.   GET OVER IT.   OBAMA IS NOT UP BY 9 IN WISCONSIN.   

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2012, 03:48:38 PM »
Calm down tool.

I think more than anything else, the exit polls shows how weak of a candidate Romney is.

BTW:  UNLESS YOU CAN SHOW IT WAS TAMPERED WITH, THE POLL IS A FACT.  YOU MAY ARGUE ITS MEANINGLESS, BUT ITS STILL A FACT. 
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Wisconsin recall paradox: Why Obama outpolls Romney despite Walker win (+video)

Even as voters in the Wisconsin recall election opted to keep Republican Gov. Scott Walker, exit polling shows Obama beating Mitt Romney there by a healthy margin. One explanation: Some voters felt the recall of a just-elected governor was inappropriate.


President Obama got some good news in the Wisconsin recall election, even as the Democrats failed to oust Republican Gov. Scott Walker: The president polled ahead of Mitt Romney by a wide margin – 51 percent to 44 percent, according to the exit poll conducted by Edison Research.   
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That spread matches Governor Walker’s seven-point margin over Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, the Democratic nominee in Tuesday’s recall election. Five months before the general election, Wisconsin voters also preferred Mr. Obama over Mr. Romney to deal with the economy, 43 percent to 37 percent, according to the ABC News exit poll. On “helping the middle class,” Obama beat Romney, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, 47 percent to 36 percent.

Obama’s lead over Romney is smaller than his 14-point victory over John McCain four years ago in Wisconsin, a battleground state that political observers still tend to see as leaning Democratic. But given the struggling economy, it’s no surprise that Obama has lost altitude there, as he has nationally.

IN PICTURES: Showdown in Wisconsin

Still, “in a race portrayed as potentially indicative of the president’s fortunes five months from now, it showed that he can remain competitive even in the face of the still-weak economy he’d pledged to repair,” writes ABC pollster Gary Langer.

So why the apparent disconnect?

First, there’s a big difference between a recall vote and a regularly scheduled election. A solid majority of Wisconsin voters – 60 percent – said recall elections are appropriate only in cases of “official misconduct,” according to the Edison exit poll. Some 27 percent said recalls are OK for any reason, and 10 percent said they’re never acceptable.

In addition, Wisconsin has a strong bipartisan tradition, with a history of ticket-splitting. According to the Washington Post, Walker won 17 percent of Obama supporters, while Mayor Barrett won 6 percent of Romney supporters. Exit polling showed 54 percent of Wisconsin voters approved of Walker’s performance on job creation and 52 percent approved of the recent changes to state law limiting the ability of government workers to collectively bargain over pay and benefits. Wisconsin’s unemployment rate, 6.7 percent in April, is below the national average.

Team Obama took some comfort in the exit polls. On Tuesday night, top campaign strategist David Axelrod tweeted, “Bad night in Boston...WI raises big questions for Mitt,” with a link to a news report on exit polling showing Obama beating Romney in Wisconsin. Romney’s campaign headquarters is in Boston.

But there’s no denying bad news in the mix for Obama in Walker’s victory. The labor movement’s failure to oust the Wisconsin governor has only enhanced its image of decline.  And a dispirited labor movement, important for Democratic get-out-the-vote efforts, can’t help but hurt Obama. The November outcome is expected to hinge on which side does a better job of turning out its base voters.

Democrats sought to minimize the blow to labor and how it could affect Obama’s reelection prospects.

“It doesn’t help Obama, but it also doesn’t hurt much,” said a Democratic strategist, speaking on background. “There’s no question that labor makes a difference, but it’s more of a long-term problem.”

One Republican analyst sees bigger implications for labor and Obama.

“The loss will ... drive a wedge between President Obama and organized labor, which cannot be pleased at the indifference Obama showed toward this race,” writes Peter Wehner on the Commentary magazine website, noting that Barrett was one of Obama’s earliest supporters in 2007. “The president wasn’t there when organized labor needed him. They are likely to return the favor in November.”

Indeed, Obama opted not to campaign for Barrett, and endorsed him only the day before the election, via Twitter. But then, Romney did not campaign for Walker, either.

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #60 on: June 06, 2012, 03:50:26 PM »
Calm down tool.

I think more than anything else, the exit polls shows how weak of a candidate Romney is.

BTW:  UNLESS YOU CAN SHOW IT WAS TAMPERED WITH, THE POLL IS A FACT.  YOU MAY ARGUE ITS MEANINGLESS, BUT ITS STILL A FACT. 
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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/2012/0606/Wisconsin-recall-paradox-Why-Obama-outpolls-Romney-despite-Walker-win-video

Wisconsin recall paradox: Why Obama outpolls Romney despite Walker win (+video)

Even as voters in the Wisconsin recall election opted to keep Republican Gov. Scott Walker, exit polling shows Obama beating Mitt Romney there by a healthy margin. One explanation: Some voters felt the recall of a just-elected governor was inappropriate.


President Obama got some good news in the Wisconsin recall election, even as the Democrats failed to oust Republican Gov. Scott Walker: The president polled ahead of Mitt Romney by a wide margin – 51 percent to 44 percent, according to the exit poll conducted by Edison Research.   
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That spread matches Governor Walker’s seven-point margin over Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, the Democratic nominee in Tuesday’s recall election. Five months before the general election, Wisconsin voters also preferred Mr. Obama over Mr. Romney to deal with the economy, 43 percent to 37 percent, according to the ABC News exit poll. On “helping the middle class,” Obama beat Romney, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, 47 percent to 36 percent.

Obama’s lead over Romney is smaller than his 14-point victory over John McCain four years ago in Wisconsin, a battleground state that political observers still tend to see as leaning Democratic. But given the struggling economy, it’s no surprise that Obama has lost altitude there, as he has nationally.

IN PICTURES: Showdown in Wisconsin

Still, “in a race portrayed as potentially indicative of the president’s fortunes five months from now, it showed that he can remain competitive even in the face of the still-weak economy he’d pledged to repair,” writes ABC pollster Gary Langer.

So why the apparent disconnect?

First, there’s a big difference between a recall vote and a regularly scheduled election. A solid majority of Wisconsin voters – 60 percent – said recall elections are appropriate only in cases of “official misconduct,” according to the Edison exit poll. Some 27 percent said recalls are OK for any reason, and 10 percent said they’re never acceptable.

In addition, Wisconsin has a strong bipartisan tradition, with a history of ticket-splitting. According to the Washington Post, Walker won 17 percent of Obama supporters, while Mayor Barrett won 6 percent of Romney supporters. Exit polling showed 54 percent of Wisconsin voters approved of Walker’s performance on job creation and 52 percent approved of the recent changes to state law limiting the ability of government workers to collectively bargain over pay and benefits. Wisconsin’s unemployment rate, 6.7 percent in April, is below the national average.

Team Obama took some comfort in the exit polls. On Tuesday night, top campaign strategist David Axelrod tweeted, “Bad night in Boston...WI raises big questions for Mitt,” with a link to a news report on exit polling showing Obama beating Romney in Wisconsin. Romney’s campaign headquarters is in Boston.

But there’s no denying bad news in the mix for Obama in Walker’s victory. The labor movement’s failure to oust the Wisconsin governor has only enhanced its image of decline.  And a dispirited labor movement, important for Democratic get-out-the-vote efforts, can’t help but hurt Obama. The November outcome is expected to hinge on which side does a better job of turning out its base voters.

Democrats sought to minimize the blow to labor and how it could affect Obama’s reelection prospects.

“It doesn’t help Obama, but it also doesn’t hurt much,” said a Democratic strategist, speaking on background. “There’s no question that labor makes a difference, but it’s more of a long-term problem.”

One Republican analyst sees bigger implications for labor and Obama.

“The loss will ... drive a wedge between President Obama and organized labor, which cannot be pleased at the indifference Obama showed toward this race,” writes Peter Wehner on the Commentary magazine website, noting that Barrett was one of Obama’s earliest supporters in 2007. “The president wasn’t there when organized labor needed him. They are likely to return the favor in November.”

Indeed, Obama opted not to campaign for Barrett, and endorsed him only the day before the election, via Twitter. But then, Romney did not campaign for Walker, either.




LOL - Fake but Accurate - Dan Rather approved. 


Remember the exit polls from 2004 showing Kerry had won? 

Exit polls are meaningless, but grasp at whaever you want, just be prepared to be proven wrong AGAIN in November. 

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #61 on: June 06, 2012, 03:55:03 PM »
33333, I am not grasping, I don't care either way, i have stated why i posted this in the first place and you flipped out like little sad bitch.  I don't want OB to win.  But you are living in a fantasy world.  anyone with any sense, who is not a TOOL like yourself knows, there is a good chance OB wins a second term or at least a good chance for a close election.

But why am i trying to talk reason with a man who believes something incorrectly printed in 1991 is absolute proof of a foreign birth?

Even if it ever turns out he was born in Kenya the logic and reasoning you use here is so flawed its almost retarded.  

So sorry, 33333 if i laugh at your "I have conclusively proved..."

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #62 on: June 06, 2012, 03:57:50 PM »
33333, I am not grasping, I don't care either way, i have stated why i posted this in the first place and you flipped out like little sad bitch.  I don't want OB to win.  But you are living in a fantasy world.  anyone with any sense, who is not a TOOL like yourself knows, there is a good chance OB wins a second term or at least a good chance for a close election.

But why am i trying to talk reason with a man who believes something incorrectly printed in 1991 is absolute proof of a foreign birth?

Even if it ever turns out he was born in Kenya the logic and reasoning you use here is so flawed its almost retarded.  

So sorry, 33333 if i laugh at your "I have conclusively proved..."


My posts on this were not directed at you as much as refelctive of the fact that the usual MSM matrix is running around with this lie and trying to create a false reality to prop up their chosen pick to the election. 

They are trying to create news, not report it. 

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #63 on: June 06, 2012, 04:09:34 PM »

My posts on this were not directed at you as much as refelctive of the fact that the usual MSM matrix is running around with this lie and trying to create a false reality to prop up their chosen pick to the election. 



Really?


But keep grasping at anything for the messiah, he is going down hard. 

1.  The same Exit Poll Ozmo and 240 are jizzing over had walker and barrett tied. 

Jesus Christ are you people from California stupid as fuck. 

But that it fine by me - the longer you clowns stay in the dark about the electoral tsunami approaching the more amusing it will be the day after obama is sent home in disgrace.

Again - for people like Mal, Ozmo, 180, Straw ,et al NONE OF WHO SAW THE MID TERMS COMING - I say congrats morons - parading around your ignorance is very amusing to watch. 


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They are trying to create news, not report it. 

This exit poll thing is all over the place, from Newsmax CSmonitor to the Post.  Everywhere.

If the polls show Obama ahead of Romney in state that just re-elected a Conservative Governor it SPEAK VOLUMES OF ROMNEY!

The GOP needs to put more gloss on that turd or we will get more OB crappy leadership if we don't get that anyway with Romney.


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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #64 on: June 06, 2012, 09:08:48 PM »
some walker voters prefer obama over romney.

33, is this a fact, or not?

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #65 on: June 07, 2012, 02:34:14 AM »
::)  ::)


The exit poll was proven false by the vote tally you moron! 


But keep beliving your bullshit .   you stupid idiots who voted for obama and plan on doing so again are in for such a rude awakening its not funny.   



Im pretty sure Obama won the presedency last time so WTF are you talking about?

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #66 on: June 07, 2012, 02:35:03 AM »
hahahahahaha shut the fuck up


Had that same poll said obama was losing by 50, your ass would have started a thread on that shit so fast... so get your selective vetting ass out of here with that weak shit

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #67 on: June 07, 2012, 04:40:58 AM »
 :).  The exit poll was proven false by the actual vote tally.   How you left wing incompetents can't see this is just another reflection of how far gone you moonbats are. 

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #69 on: June 07, 2012, 07:00:57 AM »
:).  The exit poll was proven false by the actual vote tally.   How you left wing incompetents can't see this is just another reflection of how far gone you moonbats are. 


too bad you didnt vet that blogger from india before you ran the thread about "$200 mil a day"

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #70 on: June 07, 2012, 07:09:00 AM »

too bad you didnt vet that blogger from india before you ran the thread about "$200 mil a day"


LOL.  India Times is a newspaper. 

And BTW moron - again -

THE EXIT POLL WAS PROVEN WRONG BY THE ACTUAL VOTE TALLY! 

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #71 on: June 07, 2012, 08:21:19 AM »
LOL.  India Times is a newspaper. 

And BTW moron - again -

THE EXIT POLL WAS PROVEN WRONG BY THE ACTUAL VOTE TALLY! 


So you got that story from the India Times?

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #72 on: June 07, 2012, 10:09:06 AM »
Elite Media Distorts Wisconsin Exit Polls and Results
The Sunshine State News ^ | June 7, 2012 | Matt Towery




They are at it again. Following what can only be described as a butt-kicking win for Gov. Scott Walker in Wisconsin's recall election, many media pundits were trying to "split the baby" by acknowledging Walker's win, but pointing to exit polls that show President Obama with a seven-point lead against Mitt Romney in that state. There is just one problem with their story: It fails to acknowledge just how far off the exit poll was in the gubernatorial contest.

To add insult to injury, the elite media bashed Matt Drudge for supposedly posting information saying the exit polls showed Walker safely winning, declaring the polls to show the race as very tight. Turns out the exit polls they referred to were wrong. Perhaps we should just go to The Drudge Report to get the accurate information from now on.

I continue to contend that exit polls are darn close to useless. I prefer polling a base model and then taking key county or even precinct results as early numbers arrive in order to project a winner. It works better and actually can often be released with a better sense of accuracy than these horrible exit polls that the media are often afraid to release.

Considering the exit polls the media relied on showed a razor-thin difference between Walker and his Democratic opponent, Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, the logic behind some huge lead for Obama, produced by the same exit polls, melts away. Walker defeated Barrett by seven-point margin.

Apply that same analysis to Obama's seven-point lead in the same exit polls and the race in Wisconsin is actually closer to being dead even. Wisconsin is hardly a bastion of Republican power or conservative might, yet it is even up for grabs. And this says much more about all of the polls and predictions we have seen to date.

In order for an exit poll to truly have any value, it must somehow take the various selected precincts from which information is gathered and attempt to place it in some "model" that reflects party identification, age, race and gender proportions normally seen or expected for a certain statewide race. My guess is that these polls likely skewed stronger towards younger voters and perhaps Democrats than was the actual turnout.

This would suggest that pollsters who are "weighting" their polls in other states, particularly the critically close swing states such as North Carolina, Florida and Ohio, might want to reexamine their allocation of young voters as well as consider increasing their proportion of "independent" voters that they use as they process the raw data they collect.

What might that mean in terms of these states? It might mean that Florida and North Carolina, traditionally Republican presidential states, are not as close as recent polls suggest, with Romney leading Obama. It would also make states like Missouri and Colorado, considered potential swing states that lean Obama, more than likely toss-ups that could easily go Republican in November.

And I am not a GOP rah-rah pollster (yes, my opinion is more rah-rah!). In fact, when polling for one of the nation's top sources of political news in 2008, my results showed Obama carrying both Florida and North Carolina. But a few things have changed in four years that cause me to believe that, if the election were held today, Romney would carry both states. First, we do not see the "on fire" energy for President Obama in 2012 among voters under 30 that existed for candidate Obama in 2008.

Second and more importantly, the percentage of those who view themselves as moderates or who say they are "independent" as to their party affiliation in a general election (regardless of how they might be registered for primary purposes) is not only high, but is leaning more Republican than in 2008. Many of these same "independent" voters desperately wanted change in 2008 and supplied Obama with the margin of victory in the major swing states.

We are still far from November, and as will remain my contention, the result of the presidential debates will likely determine who wins the contest for the presidency. But my Wisconsin-based interpretation of the national electoral mood is based on something more tangible than a guess about the strength of unions or weariness over recalls. My evaluation is tangible based on the exit polls -- as compared to reality


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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2012, 04:04:59 AM »
In short:

If the poll favors the GOP = The poll is correct

If the POLL favors the dem = The poll is wrong



This by the way also holds true for articles, opinions, actions etc...

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Re: Wisc. Exit Polls: Obama Leads Romney by 51-44 wtf?
« Reply #74 on: June 11, 2012, 05:10:41 AM »
In short:

If the poll favors the GOP = The poll is correct

If the POLL favors the dem = The poll is wrong



This by the way also holds true for articles, opinions, actions etc...


Not really....the polling that Obama is leading Romney whereas Scott Walker won in the state shows that people still look at the individual that they are voting for rather than their party.  Romney isn't very popular in Wisconsin and he doesn't have much chance of winning it based on the numbers.
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