really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use

[Stark]

I made a thread a while back about visiting a new doctor and my BP was high, etc. and I told him the cycle I was on.
Anyhow...
last night I was in a club and this young guy grabs me by the arm and he was TWISTED drunk. I knew him to see only and he says "Dave, what you are on? What are you taking?". I was like "ugh, creatine and protein, bro".
He stares at me...asks me "do you know X McX?"...and stared me in the eyes. The name didn't actually ring a bell for a second and then he goes "you know him, that's my father". It was the doctor's son.
I was like..."oh yeah...but why are you asking me if I know your father?"
He says "oh I saw you going into him the other day". Which was absolute bullshit.
He replies "Don't worry, my father says nothing". I replied "I hope not." and walked away.

My blood started to boil today the more I thought about it. I live abroad but am back in Ireland for a bit of a vacation and the town I live in is small. Now it's obvious to see me that I'm juicing and most people do ask me if I am. I used to admit it but now I just deny, deny, deny.

I've decided I'm going to ring the doctor's office at 9am and tell his secretary to have him call me back when he has free time and I'm going to tell the story and see what he has to say. I am gonna tell him I'm not happy. I always thought patient-doctor confidentiality was upheld but obviously not in this case.

What are your thoughts, lads?

Is that in Dublin? Motherfucking hell!!!!

BTW: Doctors don't have a clue anyways I mean in Dublin, everytime I get a health check with a doctor that i may have not been before (which doesn't happen anymore since the birth of my son we are going to one doctor) they always ask me if I am on something and I seriously don't think I look like it, but again if you look like you lift a little bit than they automaticly suspect you and they always have that tone in their voice like... you know this is wrong son right??!?!  Fuck you I'm 37 years old I can decide what I do and dont do for myself I don't pay you for lecturing me if I want a lecture I tell you, course I don't say that I just say no never have never will as far as I know right now but thanks for the compliment

[Stark]

USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

make an appointment.

politely ask him for test, hgh, or whatever the hell else is on your prescribed wish list.

When he tells you it wouldn't be professionally responsible to give you a growth hormone prescription for life, you tell him 2 pieces of information:
   1) A legal reason for him to give it to you
   2) The story of him breaking ethics by telling his son this.

Then respectfully accept your new script and keep it between the two of you.  I bet he doesn't brag to his son about this one

Lol you have obviously never lived in a small Irish village

[Mitch]

Here my 2 cents:

are you sure the drunk guy wasn't trolling you. Like "oh this big fella is probably on sauce and I have seen him once by my dad's office, let's troll him for the lulz"

What if you go angry after the doctor and he says "I never talk to anyone about my patient's health, my son was just kidding, as he used to when he's drunk"

U mad?

[irishdave]

Is that in Dublin? Motherfucking hell!!!!

BTW: Doctors don't have a clue anyways I mean in Dublin, everytime I get a health check with a doctor that i may have not been before (which doesn't happen anymore since the birth of my son we are going to one doctor) they always ask me if I am on something and I seriously don't think I look like it, but again if you look like you lift a little bit than they automaticly suspect you and they always have that tone in their voice like... you know this is wrong son right??!?!  Fuck you I'm 37 years old I can decide what I do and dont do for myself I don't pay you for lecturing me if I want a lecture I tell you, course I don't say that I just say no never have never will as far as I know right now but thanks for the compliment

No it's in the west of Ireland.

Basically, I am going to swich doctors for certain but I want to confront him about this. God knows how many people his son has told over the last 2 months about this. He went to the same school as me, same university and knows a lot of the same people I do but he's 3-4 years younger. People talk and talk a lot and maybe I should get some money out of him for damaging my reputation in town.

[irishdave]

Here my 2 cents:

are you sure the drunk guy wasn't trolling you. Like "oh this big fella is probably on sauce and I have seen him once by my dad's office, let's troll him for the lulz"

What if you go angry after the doctor and he says "I never talk to anyone about my patient's health, my son was just kidding, as he used to when he's drunk"

U mad?

That's what he could say. It's highly doubtful he saw me going into his father, it's on a side street and nobody even knew I was in town, I was just home for a weekend. I don't know the guy at all, I never spoke to him before. Now, he probably knows I'm on steroids from word of mouth but for him to say it like he did...look, it was all in the way he asked if I knew his father.

He totally started to backtrack and slightly show panic when I asked him "Why are you asking about my father and HOW did you know I was in to  see him?"

[irishdave]

I don't know how big you are, Dave, but if you are in a wheelchair or so, that is so visible that a doctor can mention you sit in a wheelchair....

I'm 6'5" 240ish...I've dropped about 10lbs lately I'm trying to lean up somewhat. Most people are shocked by me when they see me and in the pub/club I get asked every night about what I eat and if I take steroids, blah blah blah. You know the score, bro.
The son is a cheeky fucker and I don't want to let him get away with this one.

[Stark]

That's what he could say. It's highly doubtful he saw me going into his father, it's on a side street and nobody even knew I was in town, I was just home for a weekend. I don't know the guy at all, I never spoke to him before. Now, he probably knows I'm on steroids from word of mouth but for him to say it like he did...look, it was all in the way he asked if I knew his father.

He totally started to backtrack and slightly show panic when I asked him "Why are you asking about my father and HOW did you know I was in to  see him?"

Bro, I think he tried to get on your good site.

[smoothasf]

Its legal what's your problem. You want to lie about you usage just like every other filth.  you don't see smokers saying na man i don't smoke or pitch about  people knowing what brand they use. I never lied about it when i did there's just no need unless your embarrassed by what you do.

[irishdave]

Bro, I think he tried to get on your good site.

How do you mean? He suddenly realised in his drunken stupor that he had admitted to knowing my personal circumstances by what his father said?
For one, how the hell did he know I had been to his father? Brand new patient, never met his father before. There's a very slim chance he saw me enter the office and it was 2 months ago. How would you deal with it, Stark?
I am about to ring his office in the next hour, I've been on the phone all morning about other issues but I'm definitely going to try to deal with this face to face. As someone said earlier, it's better to deal with this in person as you can judge a person's body language better and they have less time to react.

[irishdave]

Its legal what's your problem. You want to lie about you usage just like every other filth.  you don't see smokers saying na man i don't smoke or pitch about  people knowing what brand they use. I never lied about it when i did there's just no need unless your embarrassed by what you do.

Listen, it's the principle of it. I'm not proud of what I do but I'm not ashamed of it either. All my good friends know and if someone I know asks me in all honesty how I got to my size, I don't lie and I tell them what's up. Why should I tell some cocky dickhead who I don't even know what sorta cycle I'm running? And why should his father, an MD, go around telling his son over the dinner table about his patients and what their personal drug use is? I don't think it's right and he's probably done it before many, many times.

[Stark]

How do you mean? He suddenly realised in his drunken stupor that he had admitted to knowing my personal circumstances by what his father said?
For one, how the hell did he know I had been to his father? Brand new patient, never met his father before. There's a very slim chance he saw me enter the office and it was 2 months ago. How would you deal with it, Stark?
I am about to ring his office in the next hour, I've been on the phone all morning about other issues but I'm definitely going to try to deal with this face to face. As someone said earlier, it's better to deal with this in person as you can judge a person's body language better and they have less time to react.

Let me explain it to your think headed drunken bog trotting Fenian head

So by now i'm pretty sure you looked jacked, as you are well aware that isn't something that you see a lot here, he's probably all into BBing probably has his dad telling him to take it easy giving him tips and advice etc.
So next he sees you in the club and wants to get on your good side so he can get first hand information what to take to look like you, I mean come on its not that hard to see.

[smoothasf]

All medical pros go home and tell their family alll unfortunately this dickhead son blurted it on. You should have slapped him like a pitch for opening his mouth. He couldn't have done anything about it considering the situation he was in.

[Stark]

Listen, it's the principle of it. I'm not proud of what I do but I'm not ashamed of it either. All my good friends know and if someone I know asks me in all honesty how I got to my size, I don't lie and I tell them what's up. Why should I tell some cocky dickhead who I don't even know what sorta cycle I'm running? And why should his father, an MD, go around telling his son over the dinner table about his patients and what their personal drug use is? I don't think it's right and he's probably done it before many, many times.

But wait a second...

Why do you give a shit what other people think? That's your first problem right there - what you mean "you are not proud of it" - that sentence right there is ridicules - if somebody asks you if you juice you tell them to mind their own business and move on - say in a nice calm and smile all the way they get the drift

[irishdave]

Update:
Just rang the secretary and said I needed to meet the doctor later for about 10 minutes but that it wasn't a medical consultation. I needed to discuss a matter with him. She said he was very busy this afternoon and I said "Well...it's a pretty serious matter". She paused and said "...OK" and I said it's a possible breach of doctor-patient confidentiality and I wanted to speak to him about it. She said she'd ring me in a while and I said I didn't want to speak over the phone I wanted to come in about it. He will probably be wondering now wtf is going on. It may give him more time to put 2 and 2 together but at least he will be worried somewhat.

[Stark]

All medical pros go home and tell their family alll unfortunately this dickhead son blurted it on. You should have slapped him like a pitch for opening his mouth. He couldn't have done anything about it considering the situation he was in.

Lol tell me about it, just a few month ago we were walking in the part with my son and my wife, our doctor with his wife walks past us my wife greets I pretend I didn't see them by pretending to be very busy with my son.

Reason? My doctor just had a finger up my arse a few days ago, ANY man who had a doctors finger up his arse will have some issues looking him into his eyes.

[irishdave]

But wait a second...

Why do you give a shit what other people think? That's your first problem right there - what you mean "you are not proud of it" - that sentence right there is ridicules - if somebody asks you if you juice you tell them to mind their own business and move on - say in a nice calm and smile all the way they get the drift

I used to admit to it all the time but the reactions I got were very negative so now I keep it to myself. I'm not a denier to my friends and people I know but why should I admit to some random guy with an attitude. If he came over and asked nicely and asked for advice I'd give it no problem.

[Stark]

Update:
Just rang the secretary and said I needed to meet the doctor later for about 10 minutes but that it wasn't a medical consultation. I needed to discuss a matter with him. She said he was very busy this afternoon and I said "Well...it's a pretty serious matter". She paused and said "...OK" and I said it's a possible breach of doctor-patient confidentiality and I wanted to speak to him about it. She said she'd ring me in a while and I said I didn't want to speak over the phone I wanted to come in about it. He will probably be wondering now wtf is going on. It may give him more time to put 2 and 2 together but at least he will be worried somewhat.

HAHAHAHA OMG this is going to be awesome, keep us updated

I love this shit

[irishdave]

Lol tell me about it, just a few month ago we were walking in the part with my son and my wife, our doctor with his wife walks past us my wife greets I pretend I didn't see them by pretending to be very busy with my son.

Reason? My doctor just had a finger up my arse a few days ago, ANY man who had a doctors finger up his arse will have some issues looking him into his eyes.

roflmbo

[Stark]

I used to admit to it all the time but the reactions I got were very negative so now I keep it to myself. I'm not a denier to my friends and people I know but why should I admit to some random guy with an attitude. If he came over and asked nicely and asked for advice I'd give it no problem.

lol no but wait dave, your words give you away right there - You were "admitting" to it, you need to change that bro, you don't need to "admit" to anything, i don't get it, so describe that to me, you are I dunno go to BBQ and there are people that you never talked to and they casually ask you if you take steroids?

I mean I had a fair share of people laughingly saying your size is probably down to steroids (and Im NOT jacked) and I laugh it off. One thing that works beautiful is what I have done in front of everybody last BBQ I went were this one dick head kept making stupid comments about my size, the minute I walked in the house with a whole lot of people already there he was like: WHOW better get more steaks on the grill hahaha - that was okay funny - but he kept making remarks like you know going out of his way to make remarks like - he has to go sideways through the doors hahaha.
So the last time he made a remark I told him in front of everybody that if he wants to get rid of his belly and man boobs he can consult me anytime

[wes]

Get drunk,wait outside his office until he`s done work for the day,beat the living shit out of him with a baseball bat.

Enjoy your jail time!! 

[irishdave]

lol no but wait dave, your words give you away right there - You were "admitting" to it, you need to change that bro, you don't need to "admit" to anything, i don't get it, so describe that to me, you are I dunno go to BBQ and there are people that you never talked to and they casually ask you if you take steroids?

I mean I had a fair share of people laughingly saying your size is probably down to steroids (and Im NOT jacked) and I laugh it off. One thing that works beautiful is what I have done in front of everybody last BBQ I went were this one dick head kept making stupid comments about my size, the minute I walked in the house with a whole lot of people already there he was like: WHOW better get more steaks on the grill hahaha - that was okay funny - but he kept making remarks like you know going out of his way to make remarks like - he has to go sideways through the doors hahaha.
So the last time he made a remark I told him in front of everybody that if he wants to get rid of his belly and man boobs he can consult me anytime

Man, I get sooo much of that as well. Every time I go to the toilet in a pub/club "jasus you're a big unit", "jasus what do you eat, babies?", "do you play rugby? why do you need to be so big?", etc.
Was at Forbidden Fruit outdoor gig in Dublin last weekend and I got "steroids!", "meathead!" from small groups of GUYS as you walk past, I just turn and laugh or smile and show it doesn't bother me because I actually sort of like the attention. I can only imagine how much hassle some dudes on here get who are twice my size, lol.

[Stark]

Man, I get sooo much of that as well. Every time I go to the toilet in a pub/club "jasus you're a big unit", "jasus what do you eat, babies?", "do you play rugby? why do you need to be so big?", etc.
Was at Forbidden Fruit outdoor gig in Dublin last weekend and I got "steroids!", "meathead!" from small groups of GUYS as you walk past, I just turn and laugh or smile and show it doesn't bother me because I actually sort of like the attention. I can only imagine how much hassle some dudes on here get who are twice my size, lol.

yeah no I don't get that kinda reaction at all so i don't want to make it sound I do, but just sometimes with assholes like the one above, I think you do well ignoring it.
What kinda cloth are you wearing?

Do you know some of the guys working out in the hercules? Like Bernie etc.? I mean some of them are ridicules big, but as far as I know the bigger they get the less they go out and the more they get reclusive.

[irishdave]

Update: meeting him at 2.50pm in the office

[irishdave]

yeah no I don't get that kinda reaction at all so i don't want to make it sound I do, but just sometimes with assholes like the one above, I think you do well ignoring it.
What kinda cloth are you wearing?

Do you know some of the guys working out in the hercules? Like Bernie etc.? I mean some of them are ridicules big, but as far as I know the bigger they get the less they go out and the more they get reclusive.

I don't train in Dublin I'm from the West but I know who you are talking about. Those guys rarely drink I'd say but I like my sauce and I go out all the time. I was wearing a tight v-neck and yeah...I get a lot of attention wearing them. But it was't a ridiculously low cut one or anything. But most of the attention I get is just a bit of banter and fun and ball breaking which is like water off a duck's back for me.

[Stark]

I don't train in Dublin I'm from the West but I know who you are talking about. Those guys rarely drink I'd say but I like my sauce and I go out all the time. I was wearing a tight v-neck and yeah...I get a lot of attention wearing them. But it was't a ridiculously low cut one or anything. But most of the attention I get is just a bit of banter and fun and ball breaking which is like water off a duck's back for me.

alright, I mean you like the attention so that's cool, I always though that hidding the size is even more impressive, but sure I understand.

Lol at your update cannot wait, dont go to hardass on him, remember its like an interrogation, you accuse him to early he will just deny it, anyways dont even think he will admit to it, hes not going to loose his license because of you.
He probably will say he will have a word with his son etc.