really pissed - doctor may have spoken about my steroid use

[irishdave]

alright, I mean you like the attention so that's cool, I always though that hidding the size is even more impressive, but sure I understand.

Lol at your update cannot wait, dont go to hardass on him, remember its like an interrogation, you accuse him to early he will just deny it, anyways dont even think he will admit to it, hes not going to loose his license because of you.
He probably will say he will have a word with his son etc.

I won't be a hardass at all. I can't go in frothing at the mouth all guns blazing and start accusing the guy...I'll tell him what's up and gauge his reaction to what I tell him. I just want him to know I'm not a fool. I certainly don't want him to lose his license but I want to scare him a bit.

[dr.chimps]

I'd be cautious, and cool it down. I'd more assume that the son is being a loud-mouthed idiot than the doctor/father is being 'un-doctorly. ' In any case, he is your physician and does have some sway in your life so I'd be careful about getting up in his face. 

[irishdave]

I'd be cautious, and cool it down. I'd more assume that the son is being a loud-mouthed idiot than the doctor/father is being 'un-doctorly. ' In any case, he is your physician and does have some sway in your life so I'd be careful about getting up in his face. 

I just said I'm not getting up in his face, I'm gonna deal with it calmly. He won't be my physician any longer though. Surely he won't want to have me as a patient after this.

[dr.chimps]

I just said I'm not getting up in his face, I'm gonna deal with it calmly. He won't be my physician any longer though. Surely he won't want to have me as a patient after this.

That's an assumption on your part. May be he has no idea of any of this, may be he doesn't care, may be he's interested...who knows.

[irishdave]

That's an assumption on your part. May be he has no idea of any of this, may be he doesn't care, may be he's interested...who knows.

LOL, I'm sure he will care.

[Stark]

LOL, I'm sure he will care.

Remember IF and I mean IF you have to shitkick him - make it a good beating and get as much free roids out of it as possible - at least you go super jacked to Mount Joy.

[Marlo Stanfield]

well, you do say that everyone asks you what your taking, so how is it different when this kid asks you ? a tad paranoia?

and yeah doctors are supposed to keep it confidential, and thats mostly for legal purposes ( i.e. your company cant call your doctor and get your medical history etc), but no doubt these docs go home and tell their families, specially if you live in a small town and everyone knows eachother , i can see the doc saying at dinner table" so , that irish dave guy came to me today, we was taking some stuff and thought it was affecting his BP"....

im more suprised about your attitude in this regards..

first your gonna call your doctor and ask him why his son asked you what your taking? and this is all the while when everyone in your town asks you?

and when the kid says his father didnt say anything, your response is " i hope not", thats incriminating right there, the kid needs to know all he knows...

[irishdave]

well, you do say that everyone asks you what your taking, so how is it different when this kid asks you ? a tad paranoia?

and yeah doctors are supposed to keep it confidential, and thats mostly for legal purposes ( i.e. your company cant call your doctor and get your medical history etc), but no doubt these docs go home and tell their families, specially if you live in a small town and everyone knows eachother , i can see the doc saying at dinner table" so , that irish dave guy came to me today, we was taking some stuff and thought it was affecting his BP"....

im more suprised about your attitude in this regards..

first your gonna call your doctor and ask him why his son asked you what your taking? and this is all the while when everyone in your town asks you?

and when the kid says his father didnt say anything, your response is " i hope not", thats incriminating right there, the kid needs to know all he knows...

I think I need to make myself more clear. I am not bothered by the fact his son knows I'm using steroids. I'm bothered by the fact his father told him. That's what the conversation led me to believe. It was the way he asked me THREE times did I know his father. So he was basically telling me with his demeanour that he knew "something".

1) I had never visited his father before for a consultation, it was my first time meeting his father. My own doctor was on vacation so I registered with him.
2) He knew who I was - this doesn't bother me too much as most people know me to see. But he knew I visited his father. This means his father told him, certainly. Because there are SEVERAL doctors in that office block. He knew I went to see HIS father.
3) He was taken aback when I asked him HOW he knew I had been to see his father. He was flustered and realised in his drunken state he blurted shit out.
4) I don't care if I gave myself away, I obviously did when I said "I hope not" but that was more of a dig at him to say "I'm thinking maybe he does talk about his patients".

Does this make it any more clear WHY I'm upset?

If I was really, really upset I would have already reported this to the medical council of Ireland. But I'm not going to. I want him to know that I know he talks and I want his arrogant son to be punished. I don't like the son...he comes across with an attitude any time I see him and his demeanour with me was pretty in my face at the time too, especially seeing as he never spoke to me before. If he had been nicer I'd have told him about my cycle but he just tackled me pretty much.

5) One last point: the father's attitude was very condescending and he acted like he was my dad or something in the way he spoke to me during the consultation. "get off that crap, it's no good" etc, etc, talking down to me. Now, he has a point. But he was acting unprofessional. I didn't like it at all and he left me with a bad taste leaving his theatre.

The only plus was that he did ring me promptly with my blood tests so he did actually care about my health. But regardless he shouldn't talk about me over bacon and cabbage at the dinner table.



In all seriousness, I'm a real easy going guy and friendly and I don't want to damage the guy's career in any way, but I want him to personally hear from me how unhappy I am.

[Krankenstein]

An easy google search would have revealed more information than what could be gathered on GB

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/

Not really...I told him HIPPA was the thing to 'scare' him with....people would be AMAZED at the amount of HIPPA violations that occur in a medical office.

1) If you sign in on a piece of paper at ANY medical based office (chiro, MD, PT, dentist, etc)...and you can read other peoples names...
2) If they call you by your full name when its your turn to see the doctor/therapist....
3) If they call to confirm your appointment and leave a voicemail that can be retrieved by anyone at your home WITHOUT you authorizing it...

[irishdave]

Not really...I told him HIPPA was the thing to 'scare' him with....people would be AMAZED at the amount of HIPPA violations that occur in a medical office.

1) If you sign in on a piece of paper at ANY medical based office (chiro, MD, PT, dentist, etc)...and you can read other peoples names...
2) If they call you by your full name when its your turn to see the doctor/therapist....
3) If they call to confirm your appointment and leave a voicemail that can be retrieved by anyone at your home WITHOUT you authorizing it...

wow...didn't know these. Makes sense though. Private shit is private shit. Maybe I had anal warts and he goes around telling his son then the whole of town knows it.

[Raymondo]

I think the guy was just taking the piss out of you...

[Krankenstein]

more...(mind you, these are SIMPLE things)

1) If there are charts in the 'holders' outside of the offices with the patient's name facing out....
2) If the office has charts behind the front desk and you can see ANY of the names....
3) Any family member calls up to see if you showed up for your appointment that day (or any other day)  I encourage ALL to try this...as soon as you leave the office...have someone call up and ask if you are still there.  See how many offices will say "he just left"
4) Take a gander at the trash behind the front desk...if ANYTHING is in that has ANYTHING regarding a patient that has their name on it
5) Freak your doctor out and ask them what their records disposal procedures are.

[irishdave]

I think the guy was just taking the piss out of you...

Hey man, that's completely possible. But he is not doing his father any favours. Why would he be so stupid as to mention his name to me? He is hurting his father not me

[Stark]

Hey man, that's completely possible. But he is not doing his father any favours. Why would he be so stupid as to mention his name to me? He is hurting his father not me

1h to go

[irishdave]

Update:

Went in and met him, he was very friendly from the get-go and told me to sit down. Asked me what was bothering me and I told the story like here.
He said immediately he was taken aback completely by what I said and couldn't understand it. He straight away apologised for what was said and explained under no circumstances does he ever discuss patients with anybody and that was extremely embarrassed and that I should have hit his son a slap and that I had his permission to do such anytime I see him. I said there'd be no need for that and that he should know that this happened.
He must have apologised 10 times to me and said he was a doctor a long time and never had such an incident. He said he was gonna give the son a bollocking but then I started to feel a bit bad and said for him to go easy on the young lad because he was drunk and probably didn't know what he was saying.
I got up to go but he told me sit down again and talked more, he kept me for a good 20 minutes and was so apologetic. I couldn't read it really if he did say anything or not but I decided to let it go. I said that we wouldn't fall out over and it was water under the bridge. He said he'd apologise EVERY time he saw me from now on and I said "no no way, you apologised twice and thrice and more already and let this be the end of it now, no hard feelings and we'll leave it at that".
He even asked could he take my blood pressure but I said we'd leave it for another time and he insisted on doing it and asking me in detail how I was feeling, etc. My blood pressure was improved immensely and he gave me a repeat perscription because I still haven't got the 24-hr monitoring done yet (which I will do in the next few weeks when I get back to Holland).
He couldn't have been any nicer or remorseful. Honestly, I felt bad for even going in about it.
We shook hands again and I left.

I guess he needed to know...all's well that end's well and I'm forgetting about it now

[Stark]

wait wait wait....

So first you bring an ungodly firestorm of hell uppon the doctor who than gives you permission to bitchslap his own son so the son is in HUGE trouble now haha than you feel bad for the son AND JUST TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR HIM YOU TELL HIM HE WAS DRUNK!!!!!

Your a fucking meat head

hes probably gonna drive him to the bog today and mercy kill him they find his fucking bog corpse in 200 years and cannot figure out why he was burried there
hahah you dipshit !

[irishdave]

wait wait wait....

So first you bring an ungodly firestorm of hell uppon the doctor who than gives you permission to bitchslap his own son so the son is in HUGE trouble now haha than you feel bad for the son AND JUST TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR HIM YOU TELL HIM HE WAS DRUNK!!!!!

Your a fucking meat head

hes probably gonna drive him to the bog today and mercy kill him they find his fucking bog corpse in 200 years and cannot figure out why he was burried there
hahah you dipshit !

Lol, not only did I say he was drunk I said he was wasted, twisted out of his mind. But I said when I was 20 I was in loads of trouble and had an even bigger mouth but that it was best he did say something to him so he'd cop on a bit.
The dude is gonna hate me big time. The doc also asked could the son ring me and apologise and I said there was no need, I didn't wanna hear from him but that he can deal with it himself.

[Stark]

Lol, not only did I say he was drunk I said he was wasted, twisted out of his mind. But I said when I was 20 I was in loads of trouble and had an even bigger mouth but that it was best he did say something to him so he'd cop on a bit.
The dude is gonna hate me big time. The doc also asked could the son ring me and apologise and I said there was no need, I didn't wanna hear from him but that he can deal with it himself.

Oh because that makes it sooooo much better, because the father has such a high opinion of you already

You tool

[irishdave]

Odd sort of small town yer from that has ye calling each other "bro"

Nah, I didn't call him bro. He was really pissing me off actually 'cos he was so drunk and grabbing at me

[irishdave]

Oh because that makes it sooooo much better, because the father has such a high opinion of you already

You tool

Hahahaha...oh yeah he said the guy was taking "these protein shakes and stuff" and that he advised him to not take them. I told him I would have not advised the kid to take steroids if he had asked me

[Stark]

Hahahaha...oh yeah he said the guy was taking "these protein shakes and stuff" and that he advised him to not take them. I told him I would have not advised the kid to take steroids if he had asked me

"these" protein shakes lolol

[gracie bjj]

i never told my doc when i was on a cycle, i just would tell him the reason im there. i made that mistake years ago, i had the high blood pressure thing also but it imo it was high cause i gained alot of weight fairly quick. i mentioned that i was using the juice and he started lecturing me about the side effects of them and ever since treated me like i was a junky or something, i just dieted harder(watched my sodium) and my blood pressure was back to normal in about a month and a half.  

[Raymondo]

Update:

Went in and met him, he was very friendly from the get-go and told me to sit down. Asked me what was bothering me and I told the story like here.
He said immediately he was taken aback completely by what I said and couldn't understand it. He straight away apologised for what was said and explained under no circumstances does he ever discuss patients with anybody and that was extremely embarrassed and that I should have hit his son a slap and that I had his permission to do such anytime I see him. I said there'd be no need for that and that he should know that this happened.
He must have apologised 10 times to me and said he was a doctor a long time and never had such an incident. He said he was gonna give the son a bollocking but then I started to feel a bit bad and said for him to go easy on the young lad because he was drunk and probably didn't know what he was saying.
I got up to go but he told me sit down again and talked more, he kept me for a good 20 minutes and was so apologetic. I couldn't read it really if he did say anything or not but I decided to let it go. I said that we wouldn't fall out over and it was water under the bridge. He said he'd apologise EVERY time he saw me from now on and I said "no no way, you apologised twice and thrice and more already and let this be the end of it now, no hard feelings and we'll leave it at that".
He even asked could he take my blood pressure but I said we'd leave it for another time and he insisted on doing it and asking me in detail how I was feeling, etc. My blood pressure was improved immensely and he gave me a repeat perscription because I still haven't got the 24-hr monitoring done yet (which I will do in the next few weeks when I get back to Holland).
He couldn't have been any nicer or remorseful. Honestly, I felt bad for even going in about it.
We shook hands again and I left.

I guess he needed to know...all's well that end's well and I'm forgetting about it now

If I was you I'd exploit that guilt of his... get him to sign over prescriptions for pharma quality drugs

[irishdave]

If I was you I'd exploit that guilt of his... get him to sign over prescriptions for pharma quality drugs

ROFL. I nearly took someone's advice that posted earlier. They said about blackmailing for HGH for life. I tried to sneak in a hint by saying "I was thinking about trying that human growth hormone to help combat my blood pressure, it's supposed to be very good" as he was writing out my new prescription for the BP meds...he just said "oh no, stay away from that stuff" and kept writing. I was gonna push it but decided not to...sure pharma grade HGH is too expensive anyhow.

[irishdave]

you should just tell everyone youre natty and train only biceps, you been very strong since school, the first time in a gym you benched 350 for reps, se the pattern?

something else, so you have high blood pressure but chose to stay on steroids nonetheless?

Yes, my BP is fine with only 2.5mg of tritace a day and some cardio. I think if I up my cardio I could come off the meds perhaps. When I come off cycle next I'll monitor the BP without meds for a week and see how it goes.