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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #100 on: June 16, 2012, 09:21:06 AM »
Obama’s policy strategy: Ignore laws
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As a white, tax paying, hetero sexual, male, non-communist, pro-freedom and pro business, person - this disgusting ghetto slum pimp and his cabal of communists, marxists, leninsts, maoists, gays, racists, freaks, and traitors offers absolutely nothing to me. 


FUBO!  BTW - every business person I know is intentionally holding back spending anything until obama is gone as a big F U to obama.   

what a pack of lies

you're a very low level attorney who probably doesn't make enough money to pay any signficant amount of taxes

after Bay, you're by far the gayest poster on this board

I guess we can take your word that you're a male but you cry like a little girl on a daily basis

you're by far the biggest commie on this board.  You constantly rant that people can't be trusted to vote "correctly"

the only thing you're pro-freedom about is stuff that you like but you have no problem restricting the freedom of others

pro-business - maybe but then so are most everyone in the country.  I think what you really mean by this is that you're anti-regulation of any kind and that business should be a able to do whatever they want even at any time

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #101 on: June 16, 2012, 09:34:49 AM »
what a pack of lies

you're a very low level attorney who probably doesn't make enough money to pay any signficant amount of taxes

after Bay, you're by far the gayest poster on this board

I guess we can take your word that you're a male but you cry like a little girl on a daily basis

you're by far the biggest commie on this board.  You constantly rant that people can't be trusted to vote "correctly"

the only thing you're pro-freedom about is stuff that you like but you have no problem restricting the freedom of others

pro-business - maybe but then so are most everyone in the country.  I think what you really mean by this is that you're anti-regulation of any kind and that business should be a able to do whatever they want even at any time


Whatever asshole.   Obama said last year twice it was illegal and unlawful for him to do what he did yesterday.   

I posted the videos.  Your messianic cult hero is a lawless 3rd world ghetto thug and traitor. 

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #102 on: June 16, 2012, 09:42:28 AM »
If We Took the Constitution Seriously, Obama Would Be Impeached
American Thinker ^ | June 15, 2012 | Michael Filozof






If the citizens of this Republic still took the Constitution seriously, Obama would be impeached for his decision to unilaterally grant amnesty to certain illegal aliens.

Article 1, Sec. 8 of the Constitution, which enumerates the power of Congress, states that "Congress shall have the Power To... establish an [sic] uniform Rule of Naturalization."

 Congress has passed numerous laws pertaining to immigration and naturalization, including laws requiring the deportation of illegals.

The role of the President, according to Article II, Sec. 3, is to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." Obama's refusal to execute Congress's immigration laws (or, for that matter, Congress's Defense of Marriage Act) is an impeachable offense.

 Article II, Sec. 4 states that the President "shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for... Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors."

 The deliberate failure to enforce valid immigration law and allow hordes of foreigners to live and work in the U.S. is, arguably, "treason," and doing so in an election year to appease Hispanic voters could certainly be considered "bribery."


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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #103 on: June 16, 2012, 09:48:36 AM »
Obama’s policy strategy: Ignore laws
FUBO!  BTW - every business person I know is intentionally holding back spending anything until obama is gone as a big F U to obama.

btw - I'll give you credit for this little bit of accidental honesty on your part

now you can stop pretending that businesses are waiting for "certainty" in order to start creating jobs

you've admitted they are really just doing it to spite Obama..... at least just "every business person" that you know

If Obama has broken any laws then let's see the Republican controlled House start the impeachment process

Until then STFU

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #104 on: June 16, 2012, 09:51:34 AM »
Man this is such a great plan for the economy.
 
You know with Black Unemployment amongst the youth at 33.1% allowing 800,000 illegal immigrants the ability to search for work legally is definitely in the Black Youths best interest.
 
You know with 1 in 2 of College Grads that are unemployed or underemployed it is really in their best interest for 800,000 illegal immigrants to have the ability to go to College and search for jobs. This is Obviously in the American Citizens and the Legal Residents best interest.
 
I mean why do things legally in this country? It is obviously American Citizens and Legal Residents are second class citizens. It is obvious that Illegal Immigrants are first class citizens because they get to ignore laws and the Federal Government panders to them.

Such a sad day to be an American. It is obvious the President doesn't care for what is best for America but what is best for his re election. But in my opinion this won't help his re election. Obama truly believes a Immigrant family that saved Tens of Thousands of dollars taking years if not decades so they will have the ability to bring their family to this country legally are going to be happy with this move? He truly believes these families will be OK for law breakers to get in the front of the line over them? I think not. This will backfire Americans believe in the Separation of Powers and strong laws.







http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/16/obama-immigrants_n_1602406.html#comments


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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #105 on: June 16, 2012, 09:53:14 AM »
what a pack of lies

you're a very low level attorney who probably doesn't make enough money to pay any signficant amount of taxes

after Bay, you're by far the gayest poster on this board

I guess we can take your word that you're a male but you cry like a little girl on a daily basis

you're by far the biggest commie on this board.  You constantly rant that people can't be trusted to vote "correctly"

the only thing you're pro-freedom about is stuff that you like but you have no problem restricting the freedom of others

pro-business - maybe but then so are most everyone in the country.  I think what you really mean by this is that you're anti-regulation of any kind and that business should be a able to do whatever they want even at any time
and you "own your own business" in "finance" and know nothing about either...

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #106 on: June 16, 2012, 10:03:31 AM »
and you "own your own business" in "finance" and know nothing about either...

you're certainly entitled to your opinion, as am I and anyone else

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #107 on: June 16, 2012, 12:18:48 PM »
If We Took the Constitution Seriously, Obama Would Be Impeached

No question

Wouldn't almost all of our past dozen or so Presidents have been impeached had we followed to Constitution?  Almost all of them committed serious crimes.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #109 on: June 16, 2012, 01:56:39 PM »
and when a dem congress refuses to support ANYTHING a president romney wants, he'll do the same thing.

what do you do when the members of congress pride themselves on "I promise to get NOTHING done on my watch".?

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #110 on: June 16, 2012, 02:34:01 PM »
and when a dem congress refuses to support ANYTHING a president romney wants, he'll do the same thing.

what do you do when the members of congress pride themselves on "I promise to get NOTHING done on my watch".?


Where is Harry Reid?    and guess what 180 - unlike GWB, Clinton, GHWB, Reagan, etc, Ghettobama NEVER comunicates with others or tries to get anything done at all! 

He has only himself to blame for the mess.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #111 on: June 16, 2012, 03:43:41 PM »
what is the 'mess'?

Obama got his way.  Rubio is neutralized as a threat because any hispanic support he brings is "me too!" to obama's Dream act exec order already.  Now all romney gets is rubio's inexperience and quesiton marks.  Never been nationally vetted. 

But hey, run a weak ticket again.  You had an inexperienced VP in 2008 race and 60% of voters believed she wasn't ready to be prez.  Rubio ain't ready.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #112 on: June 16, 2012, 03:55:33 PM »
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Playing Latinos for Pawns (He just can't help it)
Townhall.com ^ | June 16, 2012 | Carol Platt Liebau
Posted on June 16, 2012 6:50:41 PM EDT by Kaslin

Desperately flailing in his bid for re-election, the President hopes to sway votes in the Latino community (especially in states he needs like New Mexico and Colorado) by coming up with a half-baked extralegal plan that -- depending on how one looks at it -- is either nothing at all, or else constitutes a big impediment to reaching a permanent, legislative solution on how to address the illegal immigration crisis in this country.


How is the plan nothing at all?  Well, how many young people under 30 who meet all the criteria set out by the President yesterday are actually being pursued and deported?  I would wager not many.

And so now, the President is willing to give them work permits.  That might mean a little more if unemployment among young people weren't at historically high levels -- approximately 16% among those 25 and under.

Now, he's simply creating more competition in an already suffering cohort of the labor market . . . after having failed to demonstrate the leadership to spearhead a serious, meaningful immigration reform bill despite having had two years of an overwhelming Democrat majority in which he could have done so (and during a term in which he has broken repeated promises to do so; apparently, the pledge to get on it first thing next term wasn't enough! ).  Instead, he pursued massively unpopular ObamaCare.

On the other hand, how is the plan an impediment?  As this LA Times story makes clear, the President's idea came in response to pleas from Democrat senators -- who realized that Republican Marco Rubio was putting together a real legislative solution that could address the crisis.  Having him do so was a political nightmare for the Democrats, who are hoping to cement the Latino vote by handing out tokens like this one while accusing the Republicans of being anti-Latino.

Thus, rather than working with Rubio to hammer out legislation that would have addressed the problem in a serious, permanent way -- and truly benefited Latinos -- the President chose instead the path that would benefit himself and his allies politically.  It also helps to poison the water for any real and lasting reform, to the detriment of those who need it most.

(Of course, this analysis sets aside the President's unconscionable arrogation of power that he himself has acknowledged is not his to take -- a shameful and desperate move inimical to the long-term health of our republic and its separation of powers.)

Let us hope that Latinos understand that the President has done little to advance their real long-term interests -- that, in fact, he has been hoping to hoodwink them, and willing to make them pawns to further his own electoral prospects at their ultimate expense.

The contrast is striking: President Reagan believed there was no limit to what could be achieved if you don't care who gets the credit.  President Obama doesn't care if anything is achieved so long as he can claim whatever credit there is.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #114 on: June 17, 2012, 03:57:21 AM »

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #115 on: June 17, 2012, 04:32:22 AM »
If We Took the Constitution Seriously, Obama Would Be Impeached
American Thinker ^ | June 15, 2012 | Michael Filozof






If the citizens of this Republic still took the Constitution seriously, Obama would be impeached for his decision to unilaterally grant amnesty to certain illegal aliens.

Article 1, Sec. 8 of the Constitution, which enumerates the power of Congress, states that "Congress shall have the Power To... establish an [sic] uniform Rule of Naturalization."

 Congress has passed numerous laws pertaining to immigration and naturalization, including laws requiring the deportation of illegals.

The role of the President, according to Article II, Sec. 3, is to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." Obama's refusal to execute Congress's immigration laws (or, for that matter, Congress's Defense of Marriage Act) is an impeachable offense.

 Article II, Sec. 4 states that the President "shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for... Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors."

 The deliberate failure to enforce valid immigration law and allow hordes of foreigners to live and work in the U.S. is, arguably, "treason," and doing so in an election year to appease Hispanic voters could certainly be considered "bribery."


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Obama isn't making them citizens....he's issuing work permits to them which would in effect make them pay taxes.  American Thinker doesn't seem to think much.... ::)
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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #116 on: June 17, 2012, 04:38:50 AM »

Obama isn't making them citizens....he's issuing work permits to them which would in effect make them pay taxes.  American Thinker doesn't seem to think much.... ::)

Obama said twice last year that was he did yesterday was illegal.   Did the law change? 


And how you blacks still support this thug is beyond me.  You should be fucking ashamed of yourselves for allowing yourselves to be treated like human toilet paper and shit by this imposter.   He has done ZILCH for blacks and yet you morons will cheerfully follow him right off the cliff for one reason and one reason only.   Disgraceful. 

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #117 on: June 17, 2012, 09:54:51 AM »
Obama said twice last year that was he did yesterday was illegal.   Did the law change? 


And how you blacks still support this thug is beyond me.  You should be fucking ashamed of yourselves for allowing yourselves to be treated like human toilet paper and shit by this imposter.   He has done ZILCH for blacks and yet you morons will cheerfully follow him right off the cliff for one reason and one reason only.   Disgraceful. 

so they dont have to pay taxes

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #118 on: June 17, 2012, 05:23:17 PM »
Immigration: The Latest Example of Obama's Unprecedented Power Grabs
Townhall.com ^ | June 17, 2012 | Kevin Glass
Posted on June 17, 2012 5:27:41 PM EDT by Kaslin

In the wake of the 2010 midterm elections, Republicans were energized. Their perception was that President Obama, in his first two years in the Oval Office, shunned bipartisan cooperation and intentionally aggravated Republicans in an effort to get his progressive policies enacted into law. Now that the GOP had control of some small percentage of the federal government, Obama would have to at least attempt to reach across the aisle.

That's how the argument went. But the reality has fallen far short of that. The Obama Administration has decided that, instead of reforming laws that are on the books, they'd simply not enforce them. From DOMA to the DREAM Act to No Child Left Behind, Obama has used executive power rather than going through Congress.

Politico's Steve Friess has the details:

“We we work to achieve our policy goals in the most effective and appropriate way possible,” the [White House] official said. “Often times Congress has blocked efforts (ie [No Child Left Behind] and DREAM) and we look to pursue other appropriate means of achieving our policy goals.
On gay rights, too, the administration has asked agencies to do less. In February 2011 the Justice Department announced it would not defend DOMA against court challenges — an unusual step for the agency, which typically defends legal challenges to laws on the books.

The tactic has its start in the earliest days of the administration. In October 2009, the DOJ announced it would not prosecute medical marijuana users or suppliers in states where it’s legal, despite the state laws contradicting federal law.

This is a shocking expansion of executive power that Congress-loving progressives used to abhor. It turns out, though, that when the President has a D next to his name, progressives are in favor of unprecedented expansions to executive power.

Jonathan Turley, a constitutional scholar that Friess quotes, notes that "President Obama has fulfilled the dream of an impreial presidency that Richard Nixon strived for... this is a President who is now functioning as a super legislator." He's right. Progressives should be careful what they wish for. They've cheered President Obama's unilateral power expansions every step of the way - from drone strikes that kill American citizens to recess appointments done without a recess, they should stop to think what would happen if these powers were possessed by "the other side."

Imagine, a legal expert writes, that a Republican president simply announces that his Environmental Protection Agency is going to halt enforcement of pollution regulations. Or that a Republican's IRS isn't going to enforce the Obamacare mandate.

When George W. Bush was in power, progressives were outraged at his expansion of executive power. President Obama has largely kept every executive power that Bush claimed and expanded the executive's power even further.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #119 on: June 17, 2012, 07:32:26 PM »
Immigration: The Latest Example of Obama's Unprecedented Power Grabs
Townhall.com ^ | June 17, 2012 | Kevin Glass
Posted on June 17, 2012 5:27:41 PM EDT by Kaslin

In the wake of the 2010 midterm elections, Republicans were energized. Their perception was that President Obama, in his first two years in the Oval Office, shunned bipartisan cooperation and intentionally aggravated Republicans in an effort to get his progressive policies enacted into law. Now that the GOP had control of some small percentage of the federal government, Obama would have to at least attempt to reach across the aisle.

That's how the argument went. But the reality has fallen far short of that. The Obama Administration has decided that, instead of reforming laws that are on the books, they'd simply not enforce them. From DOMA to the DREAM Act to No Child Left Behind, Obama has used executive power rather than going through Congress.

Politico's Steve Friess has the details:

“We we work to achieve our policy goals in the most effective and appropriate way possible,” the [White House] official said. “Often times Congress has blocked efforts (ie [No Child Left Behind] and DREAM) and we look to pursue other appropriate means of achieving our policy goals.
On gay rights, too, the administration has asked agencies to do less. In February 2011 the Justice Department announced it would not defend DOMA against court challenges — an unusual step for the agency, which typically defends legal challenges to laws on the books.

The tactic has its start in the earliest days of the administration. In October 2009, the DOJ announced it would not prosecute medical marijuana users or suppliers in states where it’s legal, despite the state laws contradicting federal law.

This is a shocking expansion of executive power that Congress-loving progressives used to abhor. It turns out, though, that when the President has a D next to his name, progressives are in favor of unprecedented expansions to executive power.

Jonathan Turley, a constitutional scholar that Friess quotes, notes that "President Obama has fulfilled the dream of an impreial presidency that Richard Nixon strived for... this is a President who is now functioning as a super legislator." He's right. Progressives should be careful what they wish for. They've cheered President Obama's unilateral power expansions every step of the way - from drone strikes that kill American citizens to recess appointments done without a recess, they should stop to think what would happen if these powers were possessed by "the other side."

Imagine, a legal expert writes, that a Republican president simply announces that his Environmental Protection Agency is going to halt enforcement of pollution regulations. Or that a Republican's IRS isn't going to enforce the Obamacare mandate.

When George W. Bush was in power, progressives were outraged at his expansion of executive power. President Obama has largely kept every executive power that Bush claimed and expanded the executive's power even further.

no need to imagine it because that's essentially what Bush did in 2008
http://environment.about.com/od/airquality/a/bush_ozone.htm

If the right wingers don't like the power the current POTUS is using then they should have been opposed to it when their guy was setting the precedent

If you don't like it then you should take Herman Cain's advice and Blame Yourself

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #120 on: June 17, 2012, 08:41:01 PM »
they were okay when a repub was issuing exec orders for anything he liked.

now they act all surprised when a dem does it?   

victimhood.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #121 on: June 17, 2012, 09:06:06 PM »
they were okay when a repub was issuing exec orders for anything he liked.

now they act all surprised when a dem does it?   

victimhood.

yep and as Doug Steele pointed out on page 3 of this thread the very power that Obama is using came from the DHS which was a creation of the Bush Administration

Then again, it's par for the course for Repubs to bitch and moan about the very things they championed when their guy was in office.   This is the party that votes against the own legislation as soon as Obama gets on board so it's not exactly a suprise

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #122 on: June 18, 2012, 03:07:46 AM »
yep and as Doug Steele pointed out on page 3 of this thread the very power that Obama is using came from the DHS which was a creation of the Bush Administration

Then again, it's par for the course for Repubs to bitch and moan about the very things they championed when their guy was in office.   This is the party that votes against the own legislation as soon as Obama gets on board so it's not exactly a suprise


Obama said twice last year that what he did is illegal.   What changed?   

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #123 on: June 18, 2012, 03:12:27 AM »
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Obama's Naked Pandering To Illegals
IBD ^ | June 15, 2012 | Editor
Posted on June 18, 2012 6:05:56 AM EDT by yoe

Election '12: In his most brazen act of pandering to date, President Obama has dangled de facto amnesty to 800,000 illegal immigrants in a shameless bid to win Latino votes. This is pure banana-republic electoral politics.

There's zero doubt Obama's Friday order to hand work permits to hundreds of thousands of illegals who claim they were brought here as children is merely an embattled and unpopular president's bid to gain an electoral edge.

Politics trump all other factors that a responsible president would consider, such as the wisdom of dumping nearly a million new job seekers onto the market to compete for jobs with America's 26 million unemployed at a time of sky-high unemployment.

[snip] Obama has told his supporters in the past that he couldn't take such a brazen step, knowing that its legality and clear usurpation of congressional authority would be questioned.

[snip This is no different from banana-republic politicos buying votes for bags of beans. Obama's gambit is in fact straight from Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, who, facing a tight recall referendum in 2004, handed citizenship to 2 million illegal immigrants in Venezuela to secure votes, and with Jimmy Carter's help, won.

It's also been done in that other banana-republic, California, where in 2003, Democratic Gov. Gray Davis offered drivers licenses to millions of illegals to secure Latino votes for his own recall referendum. It maddened California's voters and Davis was booted. ]

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #124 on: June 18, 2012, 03:32:26 AM »
yep and as Doug Steele pointed out on page 3 of this thread the very power that Obama is using came from the DHS which was a creation of the Bush Administration

Then again, it's par for the course for Repubs to bitch and moan about the very things they championed when their guy was in office.   This is the party that votes against the own legislation as soon as Obama gets on board so it's not exactly a suprise

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