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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #125 on: June 18, 2012, 03:43:58 AM »
+10

Repub is the most hypocritical creatures this world has grown


Every criminal comes up w a justification for their crime. 

Obama said this was illegal twice last year remember? 

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #126 on: June 18, 2012, 03:59:40 AM »
Every criminal comes up w a justification for their crime. 

Obama said this was illegal twice last year remember? 

Who cares?

Obama is what he is but he is a 100 times better than the repub thats for sure

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #127 on: June 18, 2012, 04:05:25 AM »
Who cares?

Obama is what he is but he is a 100 times better than the repub thats for sure

Lol.  You Obama drones truly want a king and a messiah.  You applaud lawlessness so long as it is the ghetto messiah doing it. 

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #128 on: June 18, 2012, 05:06:07 AM »
Every criminal comes up w a justification for their crime. 

Obama said this was illegal twice last year remember? 

why wont romney promise to reverse an order we all know is illegal?

he's in panic mode, scared to commit to ANY position on this.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #129 on: June 18, 2012, 05:06:45 AM »
here's a bold prediciton - whatever position Rush takes today at noon EST...

is the EXACT same position Romney chooses to take in public statements on monday night ;)

WATCH AND SEE!

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #130 on: June 18, 2012, 05:07:47 AM »
why wont romney promise to reverse an order we all know is illegal?

he's in panic mode, scared to commit to ANY position on this.

Because Romney is a pussy

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #131 on: June 18, 2012, 05:09:06 AM »
Lol.  You Obama drones truly want a king and a messiah.  You applaud lawlessness so long as it is the ghetto messiah doing it. 

Yes i love Obama and think he is the second coming of christ ::)

Are you a teenager?

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #132 on: June 18, 2012, 05:33:55 AM »

Its not legal to hand them citizenship without congressional approval....however its not illegal for him to tell immigration services not to pursue certain groups and

WRONG!!!

As president HE CAN'T CHOOSE TO NOT ENFORCE THE LAW OF THE LAND. PERIOD.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #133 on: June 18, 2012, 05:45:21 AM »
and when a dem congress refuses to support ANYTHING a president romney wants, he'll do the same thing.


Prove it. Link please? You are making assumptions with no evidence to support such nonsense.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #134 on: June 18, 2012, 05:51:40 AM »
“And I think this is not how you run a constitutional Republic. This ought to be in the hands of Congress, and it is an end-run. What's ironic of course is for eight years, the Democrats have been screaming about the imperial presidency with the Bush administration, the nonsense about the unitary executive. This is out-and-out lawlessness. This is not how you govern. And I think that's the first issue that should be on the table," Krauthammer concluded.

End of thread. So much for CHANGE.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #135 on: June 18, 2012, 06:10:53 AM »
no need to imagine it because that's essentially what Bush did in 2008
http://environment.about.com/od/airquality/a/bush_ozone.htm

If the right wingers don't like the power the current POTUS is using then they should have been opposed to it when their guy was setting the precedent

If you don't like it then you should take Herman Cain's advice and Blame Yourself

Your stupidity comes from your assumption that "right wingers" didn't oppose Bush. Your stupidity is stating that Bush went to this extent. He never did.

Your stupidity comes from the fact that you liberal idiots destroyed Bush and labeled him another Hitler. Yet, you are now applauding Obama  for doing worse and are giving him a pass by stating that Bush did the same. Do you honestly believe that this makes for a credible arguement when Obama and you morons for the entirety of 2008 preached CHANGE?

Where is the CHANGE? WHERE? I thought the reason you idiots did not vote for McCain was because it would be a third Bush term. Obama has proved every bit a third Bush but with a worse economy.

CHANGE!!!! HEHEHEHEHEHEH!!! So much for that.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #136 on: June 18, 2012, 06:15:33 AM »
+10

Repub is the most hypocritical creatures this world has grown


CHANGE!!! HOPE AND CHANGE!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #137 on: June 18, 2012, 06:24:42 AM »
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Lawless and He Knows It
Townhall.com ^ | June 18, 2012 | Bob Beauprez
Posted on June 18, 2012 8:32:35 AM EDT by Kaslin

Even he knows better, or at least he should. That man, Barack Obama. After all he claims to be a Constitutional Law professor. But, on Friday, the President blew it.

I understand that there are at least as many different ideas of how to fix the illegal immigration problem as there are Members of Congress. So, it comes as no surprise that the President also has some thoughts on the subject – particularly as the election draws near.

But, when I heard him announce his executive order which changes existing law, I bristled. The Constitution is very clear about separation of powers; the Congress makes laws, the executive branch administers them.

Obama knows it, too. In September 2011 in response to pressure to take this same action he said, "this notion that somehow I can just change the laws unilaterally in just not true…there are laws on the books that I have to enforce…we live in a democracy.  You have to pass bills through the legislature, and then I can sign it."   

Earlier in 2011, Obama said the same thing to La Raza; "The idea of doing things on my own is very tempting.  But that's not how our system works."  And, on Univision he said, "Congress passes the law.  The executive branch's job is to enforce and implement those laws.  And then the judiciary has to interpret the laws.  There are enough laws on the books by Congress that are very clear in terms of how we have to enforce our immigration system that for me to simply through executive order ignore those congressional mandates would not conform with my appropriate role as President." 

What changed since then?  Did I miss an Amendment to the Constitution?

No.  Barack Obama just trampled on it – again.  The great Charles Krauthammer summed it up best, "This is out-and-out lawlessness."  See the Fox News video below.  Full text of his comments is here.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #138 on: June 18, 2012, 07:04:22 AM »
Your stupidity comes from your assumption that "right wingers" didn't oppose Bush. Your stupidity is stating that Bush went to this extent. He never did.

Your stupidity comes from the fact that you liberal idiots destroyed Bush and labeled him another Hitler. Yet, you are now applauding Obama  for doing worse and are giving him a pass by stating that Bush did the same. Do you honestly believe that this makes for a credible arguement when Obama and you morons for the entirety of 2008 preached CHANGE?

Where is the CHANGE? WHERE? I thought the reason you idiots did not vote for McCain was because it would be a third Bush term. Obama has proved every bit a third Bush but with a worse economy.

CHANGE!!!! HEHEHEHEHEHEH!!! So much for that.


Well if Obama is Bush does that mean you will vote Obama Dario?

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #139 on: June 18, 2012, 07:24:47 AM »

Well if Obama is Bush does that mean you will vote Obama Dario?

No. I am voting for Romney. I never voted for Bush.

And Bush is not Obama. No one is as stupid or as incompetent as Obama. Not even both Bushes.

The liberals, however, essentially voted for a third Bush term by voting for Obama. CONGRATULATIONS!!! HOPE AND CHANGE!!!!! There is no HOPE. There never was. And now it is more evident than ever that there is no CHANGE!!!!

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #140 on: June 18, 2012, 07:28:46 AM »
Prove it. Link please? You are making assumptions with no evidence to support such nonsense.

links to the new 'leadership' of the house vowing to stop anything the dems do in congress?

lol youre kidding right?  have you seen the comparison of this congress with past congresses?  they rejeect everything.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #141 on: June 18, 2012, 07:30:42 AM »
links to the new 'leadership' of the house vowing to stop anything the dems do in congress?

lol youre kidding right?  have you seen the comparison of this congress with past congresses?  they rejeect everything.


Hey idiot - guess why they wont work with obama?  Your kneepadding poor barry is a fucking joke.   When obama goes about his presidency like a dictator and a tyrant, why should ANYONE work with him?

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #142 on: June 18, 2012, 07:46:05 AM »
No. I am voting for Romney. I never voted for Bush.

And Bush is not Obama. No one is as stupid or as incompetent as Obama. Not even both Bushes.

The liberals, however, essentially voted for a third Bush term by voting for Obama. CONGRATULATIONS!!! HOPE AND CHANGE!!!!! There is no HOPE. There never was. And now it is more evident than ever that there is no CHANGE!!!!

Cool :)

Where do you think Romney will differ from Obama? (specifik none of this he is a commie bla bla BS)

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #143 on: June 18, 2012, 08:00:05 AM »
Tom Hoefling: Obama usurpation and dereliction merit immediate impeachment and removal
 America's Party News ^ | June 17, 2012 | Tom Hoefling




"This is how great republics die"



"Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths?"
 -- George Washington



The Constitution of the United States, which all officers of government, in every branch, must swear to support, is crystal clear that Congress has the exclusive constitutional grant of power to establish immigration and naturalization standards.



Article 1, Section 8:
"The Congress shall have Power...To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..."



 Also, the Constitution absolutely requires that the United States protect each of the States from Invasion.



Article 4, Section 4:
"The United States...shall protect each of them [the States] against Invasion..."



Barack Obama's actions this week in, by executive decree, granting certain classes of illegal invaders of our country a de facto amnesty are an obvious usurpation of that exclusive congressional power, AND they are a gross dereliction of one of the primary imperative duties of the Commander-in-Chief.

If a president were acting to check a lawless law passed by a lawless Congress; in other words, if he was standing firmly against a Congress or Court that had clearly breached their own constitutional limits; I would support actions by the chief executive to stop them. His oath would require that he do so.

But that is obviously not the case here.

I applaud the actions of my congressman, Steve King, in launching a court challenge to this illegitimate Obama policy. The third branch of government, the judiciary, should immediately join with the legislative branch to check the executive's lawlessness.

However, this is a perfect case to illustrate why Congress was also given the impeachment power. If they cared at all for their own oaths to support the Constitution; if they cared about the survival of the rule of law in this country, if they cared for our territorial integrity and sovereignty, they would immediately impeach this usurper and remove him from office at once.

To be frank though, experience tells me that they will not do so. Obama Democrats have no regard for the Constitution or their oaths, and Romney Repubublicans have no principles or spine.

This is how great republics die.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #144 on: June 18, 2012, 08:13:45 AM »
Your stupidity comes from your assumption that "right wingers" didn't oppose Bush. Your stupidity is stating that Bush went to this extent. He never did.

Your stupidity comes from the fact that you liberal idiots destroyed Bush and labeled him another Hitler. Yet, you are now applauding Obama  for doing worse and are giving him a pass by stating that Bush did the same. Do you honestly believe that this makes for a credible arguement when Obama and you morons for the entirety of 2008 preached CHANGE?

Where is the CHANGE? WHERE? I thought the reason you idiots did not vote for McCain was because it would be a third Bush term. Obama has proved every bit a third Bush but with a worse economy.

CHANGE!!!! HEHEHEHEHEHEH!!! So much for that.

your stupidity comes from failing to address the fact that Bush set the precedent for the type of action that Obama has now taken.   Feel free to show anywhere on this thread or anywhere where I've said I agree or condone the actions taken by Obama on this issue

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #145 on: June 18, 2012, 08:17:33 AM »
your stupidity comes from failing to address the fact that Bush set the precedent for the type of action that Obama has now taken.   Feel free to show anywhere on this thread or anywhere where I've said I agree or condone the actions taken by Obama on this issue


Obama said TWICE last year that what he did on Friday was illegal.   

What changed other than his disastrous poll numbers as we get closer to an election?

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #146 on: June 18, 2012, 08:20:08 AM »

Obama said TWICE last year that what he did on Friday was illegal.   

What changed other than his disastrous poll numbers as we get closer to an election?

if he's done something illegal (I don't know if he has or has not) then the Republican congress will impeach him

don't you think?

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #147 on: June 18, 2012, 08:22:51 AM »
if he's done something illegal (I don't know if he has or has not) then the Republican congress will impeach him

don't you think?

Like Harry Reid would ever allow a trial in the Senate?  Yeah, ok. 

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #148 on: June 18, 2012, 08:28:02 AM »
Like Harry Reid would ever allow a trial in the Senate?  Yeah, ok. 

impeachment starts in the House of Representatives

do you really think Bohner, Cantor etc.. gives a shit about Harry Reid

will that be their excuse for letting Obama break that law (alleged by you)

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #149 on: June 18, 2012, 08:31:45 AM »
impeachment starts in the House of Representatives

do you really think Bohner, Cantor etc.. gives a shit about Harry Reid

will that be their excuse for letting Obama break that law (alleged by you)