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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #200 on: June 19, 2012, 05:08:58 PM »
getbiggers are actually criticizing Obama WAY more than ROmney is.   how silly is that?

Tool is, tool does.

Obama doing something like that is a given but Romney not making a stand about it is a tragedy of our system.   

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #201 on: June 19, 2012, 05:15:04 PM »
All Hail Emperor Obama
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"This notion I can somehow just change the laws unilaterally is just not true. We are doing everything we can administratively, but fact of the matter is there are laws on the books that I have to enforce. And I think there's been great disservice done to the cause of getting the DREAM Act passed and getting comprehensive immigration passed by perpetrating the notion that somehow, by myself, I can go and do these things. It's just not true." -- Barack Obama, September 2011

President Obama is no longer president in the constitutional sense. He appears to have elevated himself to the role of emperor, deciding unilaterally what should be the law and what should not, bypassing Congress and placing himself in the role of Julius Caesar.

First it was the revelation that he has a "hit list" from which he alone decides who lives and who dies by drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen.

With last Friday's announcement that he intends to effectively grant amnesty to a category of illegal aliens, according to criteria he has set -- their age, a spotless criminal record, a minimum level of education, and/or military service -- the president has technically, possibly deliberately and it can be argued illegally, violated his oath of office in which he swore to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" so help him God. Whose help does the president seek when he acts as if he is God?

The Constitution empowers Congress, not the president, to make laws, but President Obama has bypassed that body to become a Congress of one and a law unto himself.

The president has announced his administration won't enforce a law passed by Congress and signed by President Clinton -- the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) -- because he believes it is unconstitutional. But he will craft his own immigration policy -- given that the Dream Act is still in limbo -- by immediately halting the deportation of and giving work permits to illegal immigrants brought to the United States as children. So not only is he president; Emperor Obama has usurped the power of Congress and the Supreme Court.

In an age of political pandering, this crass appeal for Hispanic votes has to rank near the top of anyone's list. While the Washington Post fixates on the 40th anniversary of the Watergate break-in and recalls Richard Nixon's disdain for the Constitution, there is silence about this president's similar disregard for that document's constraints on executive power.

Official unemployment for American citizens remains above 8 percent. Now, 800,000 noncitizens can work legally, in some cases for lower wages, thus robbing some citizens of what should be their priority place in the job line. Will those newly enfranchised noncitizens who can't find work get food stamps and welfare checks drawn on borrowed money from China? You know they will. That is part of the president's vote-buying contract.

The Obama re-election team apparently has calculated that every vote lost by an angry unemployed American citizen will be made up for with votes from Hispanics and result in a net plus for the president. That is a dangerous gamble, especially since it assumes Hispanics who are legal citizens, or legal residents, will applaud those who violated laws they had to obey when they came to America.

If a Republican president behaved in such a cavalier manner toward Congress and the Constitution he would be impeached. Again, consider Nixon and Watergate.

The president's appeal, he maintains, is about "fairness" and other notions that have nothing to do with the law. There is a constitutional and legal way to regulate people who are "undocumented." It is through Congress, which made the laws illegals have violated. The decree of a president who unilaterally and unconstitutionally decides which laws he will uphold, in the case of DOMA, and which laws he will create, in the case of illegal aliens, in order to cynically pander for Hispanic votes, is how dictators rule.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #202 on: June 19, 2012, 05:28:43 PM »
Romney doesn't have to give a knee jerk response.  He needs to give the right response. 

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #203 on: June 19, 2012, 05:29:40 PM »
Tool is, tool does.

Obama doing something like that is a given but Romney not making a stand about it is a tragedy of our system.  

Romney is afraid.

The same way he was afraid during the debates.  

Romney KNOWS he can't win the presidency by being a strong leader, an inspiring beacon of hope, a trendsetter, or by rattling cages and changing the system.  

Romney is simply a DEFAULT candidate.  Appear competent and let the other guy suck so bad the job becomes yours.   Romny wants NOTHING more than for this issue to just go away.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #204 on: June 19, 2012, 05:31:10 PM »
Romney doesn't have to give a knee jerk response.  He needs to give the right response.  

No, but he needs to react a little faster than the 120 hours that have passed so far.  

When he's president, he will have to make the right decisions, and do it fast.  He's hiding behind "run a bunch of polls and talk to party elders to come to a consensus".


Instead, he sohuld be doing what it freaking RIGHT - and saying he'll repeal this illegal-ass bill the minute he takes the oath!  

he's a wimp.  period.  Obama sucks balls, but he's willing to take a position.  weak romney is scared here.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #205 on: June 19, 2012, 05:36:49 PM »
Tool is, tool does.

Obama doing something like that is a given but Romney not making a stand about it is a tragedy of our system.   

It's called hispandering for votes.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #206 on: June 19, 2012, 05:47:51 PM »
It's called hispandering for votes.

so you're saying both romney and obama -  both of them  -  are spineless cowards begging hispanics for votes?

The only problem is that obama is honest about it - he has begged for the DREAM act for 3 years.  Romney is fake about it - he said for 3 years he'd repeal it if passed by congress, but now he won't even repeal it when passed illegally with exec order?

They're both wimps, but obama claims to support the position.  Romney scared to support anything.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #207 on: June 19, 2012, 06:06:20 PM »
Tool is, tool does.

Obama doing something like that is a given but Romney not making a stand about it is a tragedy of our system.   
On this issue, this one game, Obama's move was a check mate.  You can blame Romney and the GOP for not being ready for this possiblility but Obama put Romney in a spot doing this where he is screwed if he does and screwed if he doesn't.  Politically it was brilliant.  I hate Romney but I can't be pissed at him for being out manuevered and cornered with not much to do about it lol...  They should take a lesson from this because if they can't, they'll get played like this again...

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #208 on: June 19, 2012, 06:07:21 PM »
On this issue, this one game, Obama's move was a check mate.  You can blame Romney and the GOP for not being ready for this possiblility but Obama put Romney in a spot doing this where he is screwed if he does and screwed if he doesn't.  Politically it was brilliant.  I hate Romney but I can't be pissed at him for being out manuevered and cornered with not much to do about it lol...  They should take a lesson from this because if they can't, they'll get played like this again...

how do you feel this move affects Rubio?   Does he go from the innovative one that would bring latino vote, to just another 'me too!" guy?


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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #209 on: June 19, 2012, 06:11:22 PM »
Considering Obama said last year TWICE thatwhat he did on Friday was illegal and against the law, how can you blame anyone for acting surprised at this? 

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #210 on: June 19, 2012, 06:21:47 PM »
how do you feel this move affects Rubio?   Does he go from the innovative one that would bring latino vote, to just another 'me too!" guy?


He was part of the hammer they were getting ready to crush Obama with.  Obama just snapped his fingers and turned that hammer into a toothpick.  I don't personally agree with what Obama did, but politically, it was brilliant and timed perfect despite what 3333 says.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #211 on: June 19, 2012, 06:25:50 PM »
No, but he needs to react a little faster than the 120 hours that have passed so far.  

When he's president, he will have to make the right decisions, and do it fast.  He's hiding behind "run a bunch of polls and talk to party elders to come to a consensus".


Instead, he sohuld be doing what it freaking RIGHT - and saying he'll repeal this illegal-ass bill the minute he takes the oath!  

he's a wimp.  period.  Obama sucks balls, but he's willing to take a position.  weak romney is scared here.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #212 on: June 19, 2012, 06:49:39 PM »
Haha @ my post about 240 getting deleted.

The guy sounds like a little bitch. "Waah, they're picking on Obama more than Romney!"

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #213 on: June 19, 2012, 06:51:02 PM »
fact is that Obama said that doing what he did on Friday was illegal TWICE! 

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #214 on: June 19, 2012, 07:16:49 PM »
On this issue, this one game, Obama's move was a check mate.  You can blame Romney and the GOP for not being ready for this possiblility but Obama put Romney in a spot doing this where he is screwed if he does and screwed if he doesn't.  Politically it was brilliant.  I hate Romney but I can't be pissed at him for being out manuevered and cornered with not much to do about it lol...  They should take a lesson from this because if they can't, they'll get played like this again...

I agree,  it seems like OB is out witting the GOP and they are in a reaction mode.  but my anger stems from out politics being dominated by politicians not leaders.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #215 on: June 19, 2012, 07:17:33 PM »
It's called hispandering for votes.

Point OB on this one.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #216 on: June 19, 2012, 07:18:11 PM »
Romney doesn't have to give a knee jerk response.  He needs to give the right response. 

What's the right response?

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #217 on: June 19, 2012, 07:25:47 PM »
On Friday, President Obama once again displayed his utter contempt for Congress and the rule of law by unilaterally announcing that his administration would no longer deport up to 800,000 illegal immigrants who arrived in this country at a young age.

Along with his pledge to stop deportations, the President announced that these illegal immigrants would be able to apply for work permits.



This new policy was hailed by Democrats such U.S. Congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-IL), who admitted that the decision did “go around the legislative process. “ In an interview, Gutierrez gushed that the pronouncement was supported by the “majority” of Americans and that the President was finally starting to act like “the Barack Obama we voted for.”

Gutierrez must have observed an alternate reality in 2008. In that presidential campaign, Barack Obama played the role of fiscal conservative, blasting President Bush’s deficit spending. He adopted the “hope and change” theme and promised to bring Americans together. After his election, Obama ditched the lofty rhetoric and began pursuing a radical course of government expansion, deficit spending and class warfare. Under Obama’s leadership, the national debt has exploded by more than $5 trillion. His conflict-ridden administration regularly engages in racially divisive initiatives which foment conflict not cooperation.

If Americans understood Obama’s radical agenda, he would have never won the presidency. His immigration decision follows a clear path of divisive policies which have characterized his administration. According to David Schweikert (R-AZ), Obama decided to “grant amnesty and hand out work permits to hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants, while over 23 million Americans remain unemployed and the civilian participation rate is at a 30-year low. This amounts to an abdication of duty to the American people who are struggling in this economy. Instead of working with Congress to secure our border and reform our immigration policy, President Obama sought to circumvent Congress once again."

The President’s new policy will surely upset unemployed Americans who are looking for jobs and will now face increased competition from illegal aliens with work permits and no fear of deportation. "The White House decree is bad for America. It is unconscionable for the White House to pit unemployed Americans against illegal aliens in a competition for scarce jobs," said U.S. Congressman Mo Brooks (R-AL).

The 23 million out of work Americans must realize that Obama’s only answer to their problems is to extend their unemployment benefits. He certainly has not been able to create more jobs in this economy and his administration will be the first to show an overall decline in employment during a term in office. According to the Fact Check website, there has been an overall loss of 552,000 jobs during the Obama administration.

Because of his concerns about the legislation, Schweikert is proposing a bill in Congress that will prevent implementation of the President’s policy. In Schweikert’s view, Obama is “dictating” on this issue and Congress needs to take action. As noted by many Republicans, immigration laws have historically been drafted by Congress, not the President.

Of course, the real motivation for President Obama’s bold proclamation is to win re-election. He realizes that this de-facto “amnesty” decision will please the majority of Latino voters, the largest minority population in the United States.

The President waited until five months before re-election to announce this policy. He did not seek such legislation when Democrats controlled Congress during the first two years of his administration; he delayed the initiative until it had the maximum political impact. 

If enacted, Obama’s policies will be damaging as selective enforcement of immigration laws will set a very bad precedent in our country. It will only further deteriorate any type of national resolve to reduce the number of illegal aliens.

This new policy continues a disturbing trend in the Obama administration in which decisions are made without congressional input or approval. Whether the issue is gay marriage, the defense of marriage act, implementation of the healthcare bill, drug enforcement, Internet gambling, or educational testing, the Obama administration acts as though Congress is irrelevant.

As President Obama chooses which immigration laws to follow, his Justice Department is taking legal action against states such as Alabama and Arizona which are trying to curtail the flow of illegal aliens into their state. Attorney General Eric Holder believes that the new immigration laws in Arizona and Alabama violate the civil rights of illegal immigrants.

If unemployed Americans are upset about the administration’s efforts to retain and secure work permits for illegal aliens, there is a clear option available to them on November 6, 2012, add another person to the unemployment rolls, Barack Obama.
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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #218 on: June 19, 2012, 07:28:09 PM »
He was part of the hammer they were getting ready to crush Obama with.  Obama just snapped his fingers and turned that hammer into a toothpick.  I don't personally agree with what Obama did, but politically, it was brilliant and timed perfect despite what 3333 says.

Did you see romney's response today?

He admits he is vetting Rubio for veep.  So sad.  He doesn't know what to do about this bill.  But he's trying to fight for those hispanic votes with this flirt.

They're both playing all-out politics.  I love it.  It's about time.  But none of you getbiggers should sit on a high horse and say the other guy is the only one hispandering, the only one being a weak little bitch, playing games with US policy to win over a certain group. 

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #219 on: June 19, 2012, 07:30:12 PM »
On Friday, President Obama once again displayed his utter contempt for Congress and the rule of law by unilaterally announcing that his administration would no longer deport up to 800,000 illegal immigrants who arrived in this country at a young age.


I love blatant spin.  lol

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #220 on: June 19, 2012, 07:30:39 PM »
Did you see romney's response today?

He admits he is vetting Rubio for veep.  So sad.  He doesn't know what to do about this bill.  But he's trying to fight for those hispanic votes with this flirt.

They're both playing all-out politics.  I love it.  It's about time.  But none of you getbiggers should sit on a high horse and say the other guy is the only one hispandering, the only one being a weak little bitch, playing games with US policy to win over a certain group. 

The only thing sad is Obama drones applauding lawless behavior.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #221 on: June 19, 2012, 07:33:08 PM »
I love blatant spin.  lol

Hey moron , yes you are a moron of the highest order, Obama said TWICE last year that what he did on Friday was illegal and unconstitutional. 

So fuck off Obama bot.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #222 on: June 19, 2012, 07:35:38 PM »
The only thing sad is Obama drones applauding lawless behavior.

I hope youre not calling me here.  I call it an outright illegal bill which should be repealed on Jan 20, 2013.

Unfortunately, Romney doesn't have the minerals to admit the same.

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #223 on: June 19, 2012, 07:36:38 PM »
Jose Vargas: Obama's immigration policy has created 'a new normal' (He's an illegal!)
MSNBC's The Ed Show ^ | June 19, 2012 | Jordan Michael Smith
Posted on June 19, 2012 10:24:42 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Just days after President Obama inaugurated his new immigration policy, "there is a new normal when it comes to talking about immigration," said Jose Antonio Vargas. "There is a notable shift in the way our country and our politicians are talking about it," he said on Tuesday's episode of The Ed Show. "And I welcome that."

A whole generation "now thinks the Republican Party is synonymous with being the anti-immigrant party," said Vargas, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who outed himself as an illegal immigrant last year...

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Re: AP sources: Immunity offered to certain immigrants (by Obama)
« Reply #224 on: June 19, 2012, 07:42:44 PM »
I hope youre not calling me here.  I call it an outright illegal bill which should be repealed on Jan 20, 2013.

Unfortunately, Romney doesn't have the minerals to admit the same.

Why have you ignored Gigantor's post on this topic? Is it because he slapped the taste out of your mouth with it and in one post managed to destroy the dozens you've logged in the last few days about it?