This one's for DIV... 
'The most spiritual human beings, assuming they are the most courageous, also experience by far the most painful tragedies: but it is precisely for this reason that they honor life, because it brings against them its most formidable weapons."
--Friedrich Nietzsche
"You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star."
--Friedrich Nietzsche
"One has to pay dearly for immortality; one has to die several times while one is still alive."
--Friedrich Nietzsche
"Art is the proper task of life."
--Friedrich Nietzsche
"My time has not yet come either; some are born posthumously."
--Friedrich Nietzsche
I agree with the significance of these quotes. Especially in these times, it takes alot of effort and humiliation to seperate yourself from the masses. The "tribes" as your Nietzsche would say. Insofar as being the individual, you put yourself in the precarious position of having to justify who you are to the "tribes", unless you release yourself from all that.
Embrace the counterculture.

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Reality is wrong. Dreams are for real." -
2Pac Nietzche was sickly and lived with his mom and sister WAY to far into life.
Nietzsche was "sickly" because he caught syphilis from a whore and this is why he was reduced to being cared for by his family. At one point he was one of the ballers of his time, a shotcaller in the grand scheme, until his fall......
He never got back up.
...here's some positivity, compliments of the new "Get Rich Or Die Tryin'" soundtrack, which I of course highly recommend.
"Nig*a, THINGS CHANGE;
They don't stay the same.
Now watch me come up...
I hustle. I hustle even harder...
I'll put that work in to WIN--no problem."
--50 Cent, "Things Change"
The last words of Pac.....to his enemies, remnants of the rap game, the final say on everything. This is off of Richie Rich's 1996 release "Seasoned Veteran". Officially the last collaboration Pac did before his death.
"No more regular rappin dare me to cap 'em and watch me blast
These niggas be actin' but a simple fact, playa, I'm a man!
I lash on my enemies through multiple centuries forcin' my adversaries to bleed when they seein' me.
Though east coast born I'm west coast raised, threw so much dick throughout the clique, that's why they deathrow slaves.
Father forgive me for thug livin', I'm through with this drug dealin', I'll leave it to Clinton and all the niggaz that love prison.
Brothers be ballin', Rich if you need me call I'll open fire
on mutha fuckaz and murder 'em all.
Meet Mr. Makaveli bust um, bust um fuck what they tell me I'm makin these muthafuckaz hop on they toes like Calvin Bailey!
I've been shot and murdered cant tell you how it happened word for word but best believe that niggaz gonna get what they deserve.
In the same way God Bless my brain 'cause game pays, gettin' cash and ass for dayz.
Now, Niggas Done Changed.
Heeeeeeeey, now picture me rollin' Biggie Smalls got his eye swollen, my hand on
my nuts I gives a fuck I'm-a die holdin' 'em.
Makin' these hoes pause while schemin' on no drawers, no money involved kinda pussy, digits & alcohol.
Picture me rollin', horny hoes get they holes dug I might show em thug
passion but I'll never show 'em love.
Can't hit me in combat, relentless when we ride, strategize on my ememies and plot until they die!
Ask me why I'm high and my reply 'till the day I die'; dont wanna picture this cold
world through sobber eyes.
Thugs dont die we multiply, connect with the spirits of fallen homies and bustaz then we ride.
Suprise niggaz when they seen us they duck down, different from what they anticipated, we aim and bust rounds.
Fuckin' clowns still watchin' clips of 'I Get Around', scream like a bitch when I beat 'em down.
Niggas Done Changed."-2pac/Richie Rich "Niggas Done Changed"
Are you still addicted to crystal meth?
I would keep gear as your drug of choice Jeff. Both rec drugs and bodybuilding drugs can be damaging, but at least you will have a muscular physique on the roids.
Do you agree?
Jeff is right, Matthew. You don't go up to someone and start asking them about their personal shit right off the bat. If you want to know that badly just PM him. If he wants to go in-depth with it he would have already done so, leave that shit off the forum.
I've made the same mistake with Jeff and I apologize for that, I shouldn't have come to him like that.
Stupid fuckers on other boards will recommend that a FIRST CYCLE consist of a whole gram of test, JUST AS A BASE. LOL
I concur. For a newbie, a base of 250MG Test and an oral anabolic will work wonders. The least you can get away with the better it will be for your future usage. While some people say that Receptor Downgrade/Shutdown is a myth, I would tend to believe the body's need for homeostasis dictates that something must give eventually. Nothing's been proven. Considering I don't compete, nor have the inclination to, I'd rather stay as low as a I can for the risk/reward ratio.
1. How much does Tom Prince weigh?
TOM obviously doesn't even care anymore how much Tom weighs (good for him, BTW)...so why the f**k do you guys?
2. Is Adonis indeed natural as he says he is, or at least clean?
I feel that he is, yes. Look at him in clothes. Does he really look like a juicer? He has a very hard-working natural's physique. He's endured one serious diet, and he could still be a little larger had he undergone a couple more bulk/diet nutritional cycles without me suspecting him of anything. He's still very young for a bodybuilder...he's only 23 or 24, if I'm not mistaken. Note that probably the primary hallmark of a natural trainee is their "semi-normal" appearance in clothes, no matter how impressive they appear stripped down. Adonis is a big boy, but there are still alot of areas that haven't "filled out." Drugs tend to round out all the protrusions and develop accessory muscles that no amount of natural training can. You just don't see certain muscles "standing off the frame" unless guys juice. Adonis is devoid of those protuberances. Have I made a convincing case for Adonis' steroid virginity? You may not realize it, but the mere fact that we're debating it is hurting more feelings than his pictures posted here.
1.) How did you come to have beef with TP in the first place?
2.) Those accessory muscles you refer to are the stabilizers I believe, the ones you use when you are doing free weight compound movements. The ones people neglect when they rely on machines.....
DIV