Are Their Enough Rich People to Tax?

[tonymctones]

HA!..funny.....The so-called conservatives are growing gov't just like the libs....Bush....two unfunded wars...prescription drug bill.....huge homeland security budget....huge military expenditures....Conserva tives have sold you guys a bill of goods...they expand gov't just as much as the libs but in a different way...you guys are just so mesmerized by their rhetoric you don't see whats right in front of your eyes

agreed and the voting public should hold them accountable for that just as they should for obama

[OzmO]

Romney is a pawn and a sell out, he stand s for nothing and falls for everything.   I'd say it's a toss up with romney edging OB by .001%.  

[tonymctones]

Simple Obama 2nd term - 100% chance of disaster.  

Romney - 50% - 85% Chance of Disaster.  




Very easy to figure out what to do.  

pretty much agree

[Soul Crusher]

Romney is a pawn and a sell out, he stand s for nothing and falls for everything.   I'd say it's a toss up with romney edging OB by .001%.  

Hopefully Romney can be forced into doing things.   Obama is a die hard communist radical hell bent on his agenda at all costs. 

No one is denying what Romney is, but any sane adult giving obama a second term after what we have seen these last 4 years needs to be beaten within an inch of their life. 

[andreisdaman]

agreed and the voting public should hold them accountable for that just as they should for obama

agreed as well...but the problem is that the Dems and Libs are so much alike now...their public rhetoric not withstanding...its really entertaining for us as they fight and accuse each other of this and that...Getbig is a microcosm of that....but fiscally, they are both the same....there is basically an entrenched way of doing things in Washington that constantly needs to grow gov't to pay off constituents, PACS, various voting blocks, etc....and there is no third party option so we are basically stuck.

When you say we need to cut spending, you are absolutely right...but there is no true mechanism to do that..Obama and the Repubs compromised a year ago and now we have this spending cut thing thats supposed to go into affect and cut 20 billion or so...but we will see if it actually comes to pass or will they circumvent it the way they have done in the past..and 20 billion is a drop in the ocean

[andreisdaman]

Hopefully Romney can be forced into doing things.   Obama is a die hard communist radical hell bent on his agenda at all costs.  

No one is denying what Romney is, but any sane adult giving obama a second term after what we have seen these last 4 years needs to be beaten within an inch of their life.  

you see?..there ya go again with stupid rhetoric that makes your argument biased..Obama is just a shade to the left of center....he has enacted some policies that are actually Republican......Hardcore on the war on terror and Afghanistan.....cutting gov't employees......extension of Bush tax cuts.....tough on deportation of illegals.....

Romney is NOT a conservative.....he is just like Obama..a shade right of center.....which is why Conservatives and the tea party are not happy with him..If he loses he will be blamed and savaged just like McCain was..Romney is a John McCain Republican....liberal and pragmatic......just much richer..,No true conservative would ever enact a universal healthcare bill....Romney did..and he can't run from that no matter how hard he tries

[howardroark]

when Clinton left office there was a plan in place and working that would have paid off all the debt by the end of 2010

Exactly, isn't it embarrassing for the Republicans that Clinton was MORE fiscally conservative than they were?

Bush and the Republicans didn't even have to cut spending: had they just grew spending at a slower rate than economic growth, they could have enacted the Bush tax cuts AND balanced the budget.

[howardroark]

dude, its not about taxing the rich hoping that those taxes will cover our deficits, its about taxing the rich fairly and getting them to pay their fair share..no more no less..the thing I find so funny is that the rich have done such a great job of brainwashing the American public into thinking that taxing the rich fairly is wrong.....

they turn the argument into a "redistribution of wealth" argument...saying that their hard-earned tax dollars are going toward welfare...in reality, if they don't pay it, the middle class will......it IS a massive redistribution of wealth.....they have shunked their tax burden onto the middle and working class....we are paying our taxes AND theirs as well.....we pay in terms of the higher interest rates that come from borrowing the extra money that they don't pay

good job by them pulling the wool over the eyes of the conservatives and Republicans

Tell me, andre, what is a "fair" tax rate for the rich?

Right now, the top personal income tax rate is 35%, while the top tax rate on investment, which is double-taxed on the corporate and then the personal level (capital gains), is almost 45%. And that's not including state and local income, sales, and property taxes.

To me, it looks like the top 25% pays too much compared to the bottom 50%

[Soul Crusher]

Tell me, andre, what is a "fair" tax rate for the rich?

Right now, the top personal income tax rate is 35%, while the top tax rate on investment, which is double-taxed on the corporate and then the personal level (capital gains), is almost 45%. And that's not including state and local income, sales, and property taxes.

To me, it looks like the top 25% pays too much compared to the bottom 50%

Its never enough for leftists 

[howardroark]

Republican solution to this Buffet tax nonsense: take the Buffet tax in exchange for eliminating the corporate income tax. That would bring down the top tax rate on investment down to 30% while satisfying all the retards who can't understand the concept of double taxation.

[Straw Man]

Simple Obama 2nd term - 100% chance of disaster.   

Romney - 50% - 85% Chance of Disaster. 

Very easy to figure out what to do. 

regardless of who wins there is 100% chance you still be ranting and raving like a lunatic about every crazy idea you dream up or that Levin or Schiff tells you to be outraged or panicked about

[Fury]

dude, its not about taxing the rich hoping that those taxes will cover our deficits, its about taxing the rich fairly and getting them to pay their fair share..no more no less..the thing I find so funny is that the rich have done such a great job of brainwashing the American public into thinking that taxing the rich fairly is wrong.....

they turn the argument into a "redistribution of wealth" argument...saying that their hard-earned tax dollars are going toward welfare...in reality, if they don't pay it, the middle class will......it IS a massive redistribution of wealth.....they have shunked their tax burden onto the middle and working class....we are paying our taxes AND theirs as well.....we pay in terms of the higher interest rates that come from borrowing the extra money that they don't pay

good job by them pulling the wool over the eyes of the conservatives and Republicans

I like how morons like you and the rest of the sheeple love the use of the word "fair" yet when asked what number "fair" is you get tongue tied and try to give us the work around like you did in this post.

[andreisdaman]

Exactly, isn't it embarrassing for the Republicans that Clinton was MORE fiscally conservative than they were?

Bush and the Republicans didn't even have to cut spending: had they just grew spending at a slower rate than economic growth, they could have enacted the Bush tax cuts AND balanced the budget.

you finally said something smart...good job

[andreisdaman]

Tell me, andre, what is a "fair" tax rate for the rich?

Right now, the top personal income tax rate is 35%, while the top tax rate on investment, which is double-taxed on the corporate and then the personal level (capital gains), is almost 45%. And that's not including state and local income, sales, and property taxes.

To me, it looks like the top 25% pays too much compared to the bottom 50%

oh I agree...the bottom 50% needs to pay more as well....as a matter of fact, I believe that welfare should be taxed......it is income in my view

[whork]

oh I agree...the bottom 50% needs to pay more as well....as a matter of fact, I believe that welfare should be taxed......it is income in my view

Yes they sit on a shitload of money these poor people

[whork]

Exactly, isn't it embarrassing for the Republicans that Clinton was MORE fiscally conservative than they were?

Bush and the Republicans didn't even have to cut spending: had they just grew spending at a slower rate than economic growth, they could have enacted the Bush tax cuts AND balanced the budget.

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[andreisdaman]

Yes they sit on a shitload of money these poor people

I see your point and I understand your sarcasm.....but EVERYONE has to contribute something.....everyone has to have a stake in whats going on.....it can't be free rides for the bottom 50%

[GigantorX]

I see your point and I understand your sarcasm.....but EVERYONE has to contribute something.....everyone has to have a stake in whats going on.....it can't be free rides for the bottom 50%

I agree. The problem is that those that have 0% income tax liability and are hooked on govt. welfare support will outnumber the producers/workers/taxpayers in the coming years.

[andreisdaman]

I agree. The problem is that those that have 0% income tax liability and are hooked on govt. welfare support will outnumber the producers/workers/taxpayers in the coming years.

probably true

[whork]

I see your point and I understand your sarcasm.....but EVERYONE has to contribute something.....everyone has to have a stake in whats going on.....it can't be free rides for the bottom 50%

Its not a free ride if you dont own a horse to ride on

[GigantorX]

Its not a free ride if you dont own a horse to ride on

Well, those that are hooked on free stuff and get accustomed to that will never go out and get a job to buy the horse to ride on.

In the U.K. they have people on the welfare rolls that have been on the full govt. teat for their whole lives. This is a situation that this nation has been driving towards for quite some time.

[George Whorewell]

If 100% of all assets from Americans making 250k+ were confiscated and redirected into the coffers of the federal government, the federal government would only have enough money to fund itself for about 174 days before declaring it was bankrupt.

[whork]

Well, those that are hooked on free stuff and get accustomed to that will never go out and get a job to buy the horse to ride on.

In the U.K. they have people on the welfare rolls that have been on the full govt. teat for their whole lives. This is a situation that this nation has been driving towards for quite some time.

You cant get a job if there is no jobs to get

[George Whorewell]

If 100% of all assets from Americans making 250k+ were confiscated and redirected into the coffers of the federal government, the federal government would only have enough money to fund itself for about 174 days before declaring it was bankrupt.

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