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Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« on: July 07, 2012, 04:46:56 PM »
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Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
By:David Wong 07-05-2012 258,837 views




Let's get this straight: The number of people who go from fat to thin, and stay there, statistically rounds down to zero.
Every study says so. No study says otherwise. None.
Oh, you can lose a ton of weight. You'll gain it back. Here's one study running the numbers. Here's a much larger analysis of every long-term weight loss study they could find. They all find the exact same thing: You can lose and keep off some minor amount, 10 or 15 pounds, for the rest of your life -- it's hard, but it can be done. Rarer cases may keep off a little more. But no one goes from actually fat to actually thin and stays thin permanently.



Except the person in this Google banner ad, who lost weight and then became white.
And when I say "no one," I mean those cases are so obscenely rare that they don't even appear on the chart. They can't even find enough such people to include in the studies. It's like trying to study people who have survived falling out of planes. Being fat is effectively incurable, every study shows it, and no one will admit it.
So the guy or girl you see in the "Before" and "After" photos in weight loss commercials, who completely changed body type with diet and exercise? You know, like Jared from Subway, who lost 230 pounds? Either they're about to be fat again in a couple of years, or they're a medical freak occurrence, like the sick guy who was told he had six months to live but miraculously survives 20 years. That guy exists, we all know famous examples. But it's a rare, freak situation, living in defiance of all of the physical processes at work.



Hey, this guy lost 410 pounds on the infamous "Herbalife" diet. Amazing!
How rare? Well, this person did the math, and as far as they could tell, two out of 1,000 Weight Watchers customers actually maintain large weight losses permanently. Two out of a thousand. That means if you are fat, you are 25 times more likely to survive getting shot in the head than to stop being fat.
Meanwhile, here's an article where scientists marvel at the amazing success of Weight Watchers, because a study of their most successful customers showed they permanently lost 5 percent of their weight. Wow! You come in at 300 pounds, you stay at 285! Next stop, thong store!
So please remember this the next time the subject comes up at the office or on some message board and you get bombarded by thin 20-year-olds insisting the obese need to just "cut out the junk food" or "take care of themselves" or "do some exercise." The body physically won't allow that for a formerly fat person.



Except for this guy, who lost 100 pounds and got totally ripped in four weeks.
If we could only see his face, we'd see it's totally the same person!
"Well, just stop eating so much!" Sure, kid. To feel what it's like, try this: Go, say, just 72 hours without eating anything. See how long it is until the starvation mechanism kicks in and the brain starts hammering you with food urges with such machine gun frequency that it is basically impossible to resist. That's what life is like for a formerly fat person all the time. Their starvation switch is permanently on. And they're not going 72 hours, they're trying to go the rest of their lives. Don't take my word for it. Here's a breakdown of the science, in plain English. It's like being an addict where the withdrawal symptoms last for decades.
As that article explains, the person who is at 175 pounds after a huge weight loss now has a completely different physical makeup from the person who is naturally 175 -- exercise benefits them less, calories are more readily stored as fat, the impulse to eat occurs far, far more often. The formerly fat person can exercise ten times the willpower of the never-fat guy, and still wind up fat again. The impulses are simply more frequent, and stronger, and the physical consequences of giving in are more severe. The people who successfully do it are the ones who become psychologically obsessive about it, like that weird guy who built an Eiffel Tower out of toothpicks.
Statistically, the only option with any success rate is a horrible, horrible surgical procedure. I can find no data whatsoever that says otherwise. Keep all of this in mind the next time you see a Jenny Craig or Bowflex commercial.


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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2012, 04:55:10 PM »
All that can be fixed with an EC stack regiment.

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2012, 04:55:48 PM »
How come Jarrett on the Subways commercials hasn't gained his weight back??? ;D

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2012, 04:58:15 PM »
Pretty accurate to me.  I have always had weight issues.  I can always lose it pretty easily because I know what to do but it has to be kept in check.  If not then I blow up quick.  I am guessing most people who do lose the weight did it by calorie restriction without exercise.  Food is a big time addiction for a lot of people.

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2012, 04:58:55 PM »
All that can be fixed with an EC stack regiment.

Thats only an extra 250 calories per day burned on average though, not a miracle pill

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2012, 05:04:06 PM »
Thats only an extra 250 calories per day burned on average though, not a miracle pill


No, it's the appetite regulation/suppression that is favourable. Of course, this can only work if the person puts in an ongoing active effort to be calorically conscious. The EC stack is just there to suppress appetite and make the day go by easier by having to fight less signals to stuff ones face.

Also, nicotine is beneficial as well, the only problem lies in the administration method.

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2012, 05:23:51 PM »

No, it's the appetite regulation/suppression that is favourable. Of course, this can only work if the person puts in an ongoing active effort to be calorically conscious. The EC stack is just there to suppress appetite and make the day go by easier by having to fight less signals to stuff ones face.

Also, nicotine is beneficial as well, the only problem lies in the administration method.
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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2012, 05:26:26 PM »
Food to generations has become looked at as more of a pleasure in today's modern society than just a necessity.  Its an addiction, people do not care about the consequence of eating themselves into a corner until they're getting digits removed due to diabetes and they make sure to pass this off to there children.  Great article here, and as any addiction goes you must develop self control and personal accountability to help overcome these obstacles.

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2012, 05:41:23 PM »
Thats only an extra 250 calories per day burned on average though, not a miracle pill

If this is correct that's quite a lot...

Where did you get this number from?
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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2012, 05:43:25 PM »
If this is correct that's quite a lot...

Where did you get this number from?


A few studies that averaged to around 2 pounds extra lost per month on same calorie intake

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2012, 05:51:21 PM »
A few studies that averaged to around 2 pounds extra lost per month on same calorie intake

I've used it in the past but I didn't feel it made a difference. The appetite suppression effect I always lost the leaner I got but I'm gonna add it to lose the last couple pounds since I've always used it at the beginning of a diet. But I believe the fat burning effects are actually supposed to increase the longer you are on it right?
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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2012, 05:52:06 PM »
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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2012, 05:59:38 PM »
Fuck science!  ;D

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2012, 07:54:46 PM »
That means if you are fat, you are 25 times more likely to survive getting shot in the head than to stop being fat.


Give me a fat camp and gun.  I got me some research to do.

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2012, 12:21:43 AM »
All that can be fixed with an EC stack regiment.

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2012, 01:31:49 AM »
Pretty accurate to me.  I have always had weight issues.  I can always lose it pretty easily because I know what to do but it has to be kept in check.  If not then I blow up quick.  I am guessing most people who do lose the weight did it by calorie restriction without exercise.  Food is a big time addiction for a lot of people.

Once your body creates new fat cells its almost impossible to kill them off. One of the rumored ways is dnp cycle.
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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2012, 01:33:51 AM »
god invented science to mislead the people and divide them to fights wars against eachother

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2012, 01:38:24 AM »
Once your body creates new fat cells its almost impossible to kill them off. One of the rumored ways is dnp cycle.

thanks god for dnp then  :D
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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2012, 02:08:34 AM »
god invented science GetBig to mislead the people and divide them to fights wars against eachother
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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2012, 02:22:08 AM »
This is bullshit. Pure bullshit. Of course you can stay thin after a big weight loss. You obviously gain some water and fat after you start eating normally again, but then again its all about maintaining. I dont know if this is article was a joke or not, but for me, getting thin is the easiest part in the world. However, since Im a bodybuilder, I have to relay on certain rules in order to lose fat and maintain musclemass at the same time, which is much MUCH more difficult than just slimming down. But then again, thats what gives the best results.

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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2012, 03:18:08 AM »
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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2012, 03:47:48 AM »
How come Jarrett on the Subways commercials hasn't gained his weight back??? ;D
He still has manboobs and a hint of a double chin.

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2012, 03:57:08 AM »
Yesterday in front of me in the supermarket line: a 50yr old 5'1'' female pig, ugly tattoo, must have been 250lbs at least, sweating en puffing and screaming to her grandchild. In the shopping cart: fries, burgers, crisps, coca cola (not the light version of course). And one of these wellfare electrical scooters outside.
I'd say: no more welfare, pay your own medical bills, and get a taser treatment each time your complaining about your life.
This is what happens to my 52% income tax.... >:(

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2012, 04:06:27 AM »
Yesterday in front of me in the supermarket line: a 50yr old 5'1'' female pig, ugly tattoo, must have been 250lbs at least, sweating en puffing and screaming to her grandchild. In the shopping cart: fries, burgers, crisps, coca cola (not the light version of course). And one of these wellfare electrical scooters outside.
I'd say: no more welfare, pay your own medical bills, and get a taser treatment each time your complaining about your life.
This is what happens to my 52% income tax.... >:(

I guess no need for you to come to US then.  Same shit over here except 52% income tax.  That's outrageous.

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Re: Fat Is Officially Incurable (According to Science)
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2012, 04:07:22 AM »
Yesterday in front of me in the supermarket line: a 50yr old 5'1'' female pig, ugly tattoo, must have been 250lbs at least, sweating en puffing and screaming to her grandchild. In the shopping cart: fries, burgers, crisps, coca cola (not the light version of course). And one of these wellfare electrical scooters outside.
I'd say: no more welfare, pay your own medical bills, and get a taser treatment each time your complaining about your life.
This is what happens to my 52% income tax.... >:(
Just go away...