Author Topic: Obama: "If You've Been Successful, You Didn't Get There On Your Own" - lmfao!!  (Read 44499 times)

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It is insane....that is unless you actually read what he said.... ::)



If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."




Once again, another example of words taken completely out of context


When those teachers have students that go on to be murderers should those same teachers get blame for the failure?

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Hate to tell you this but the Harland Sanders used 105 dollars from his first Social Security Check to build his franchises traveling accross the states.  His orginal restaurant was closed due to the highway being built and diverting traffic away from it ::)


In this case....Socialism won.  Harland Sanders was bankrupt at the time.



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Chuckle....the guy next to Jobs, Steve Woziak was more responsible for  building  Apple.  Those government contracts he got helped a bunch too.....that's why there were Apple II computers in practically every classroom in America in the 80's and 90's dipshit
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Chuckle....the guy next to Jobs, Steve Woziak was more responsible for  building  Apple.  Those government contracts he got helped a bunch too.....that's why there were Apple II computers in practically every classroom in America in the 80's and 90's dipshit
I think 333's point is the government wouldnt exist if it werent for the taxpayers, and life would still go on without them, and people would still be successful (regardless of how immoral their business practices may be)

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I think 333's point is the government wouldnt exist if it werent for the taxpayers, and life would still go on without them, and people would still be successful (regardless of how immoral their business practices may be)

Absolute truth. 

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I think 333's point is the government wouldnt exist if it werent for the taxpayers, and life would still go on without them, and people would still be successful (regardless of how immoral their business practices may be)



333 actually missed the point due to not taking the time to find out what Obama actually said.
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333 actually missed the point due to not taking the time to find out what Obama actually said.
.... I dont see how the inaccuracy of the quote in any way invalidates his opinion. Obama is basically saying you wouldnt get anywhere without the governments support, which simply is not true.

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.... I dont see how the inaccuracy of the quote in any way invalidates his opinion. Obama is basically saying you wouldnt get anywhere without the governments support, which simply is not true.


You would be right if you left out the word government.....No one suceeds in business without someone's help
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Lol.    Spoken like a true leftist.



333 actually missed the point due to not taking the time to find out what Obama actually said.

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You would be right if you left out the word government.....No one suceeds in business without someone's help
He was insinuating government help.
Context is key - every example he gave was government funding, you illiterate fuck.

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He was insinuating government help.
Context is key - every example he gave was government funding, you illiterate fuck.


No he wasn't jackass and you and number boy will be crying for the next 4 years about why Obama was reelected
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No he wasn't jackass and you and number boy will be crying for the next 4 years about why Obama was reelected
Really? He didnt immediately follow that with a string of examples, all examples of government funding?

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If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

Really? Illiterate fuck.

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Really? He didnt immediately follow that with a string of examples, all examples of government funding?

Really? Illiterate fuck.

What Obama basically said was that, since you owe society/government for your success, it's time for you to "share the wealth". And, what better way to do that than to let Obama bend you over and fiscally sodomize you out of your hard-earned money, so some flea-bitten Occupy type can pursue his dream of studying inverted transexual Japanese chicken-clucking.

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I just want to know where thugbama blames those same teachers whose students become criminals and drags on society for their failures.

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Roads paid for by taxpayers are paid from their productivity and income, not from the good graces of politicians.  The government has no assets to build infrastructure that it first does not steal, borrow or tax from others first. 

Correct. But I don't see any politicians claiming they paid for the roads.   

Roads and infrastructure are supposed to be built to accomodate the needs and demands of citizens, not to be a works' project on its own.  Bridges to nowhere, roads to nowhere, etc do nothing at all but waste money and destroy the productivity of earners who would be using that money for other productive endeavors of their choosing. 

As far as getting to work, I take a road that I pay for every time I pay a toll, gas taxes, etc.        

Again correct. But major roads cost billions to create. You paid your fraction as did everyone else. Some people get more from the infrastructure that others. Some people pay more tax than others.

The concept being discussed doesn't just stop at infrastructure created from the public coffers. A guy with a succesful trucking company would be nowhere without the oil companies. I run a company that would be nothing without the staff.

Public & private. I'd be hard pushed to sell anything on the internet if some very smart people in the military hadn't invented it. I'd also not sell anything if the CME/CBOT didin't exist. Public & private.

I lean on public & private enterprises.

Creating wealth from scratch requires a number of things : Some smarts, a lot of luck, lots & lots of other people & the infrastructure to support what you do.

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Chuckle....the guy next to Jobs, Steve Woziak was more responsible for  building  Apple.  Those government contracts he got helped a bunch too.....that's why there were Apple II computers in practically every classroom in America in the 80's and 90's dipshit

The government funded Apple's garage laboratory where the company got started.  ::)

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fine, but people like Obama should equally be willing to acknowledge failure. By the govt as well no? 

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ITT: People who have never accomplished anything of value in life cry about others accomplishing more than them and chalk their success up to outside factors.

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When those teachers have students that go on to be murderers should those same teachers get blame for the failure?

LMAO!

has your life been totally void of helpful people?

Were you such a cnut as a kid that you even turned the teachers off?

Mrs Evans, Mrs Goodwin, Mr Greene  - three teachers I look back on with fondness. I was an 'odd' kid - always off on my own tangent - these three humans encouraged me, rather than trying to get me to conform. I had many other teachers that were trying to fit this square peg into the regular round hole. Without the encouragement of these three teachers, I'd probably not have taken the risks I did in life.

I'm not rich but I am happy and I do stuff I like to do. My attitude to life would not be what it is if all the teachers I'd had were total conformists.

As for you - it is a shame you didn't have people go out of their way for you in your youth, to go the extra mile for you even if it wasn't required for them to do so.

Mind you, if you had - you'd have probably misinterpreted their intentions and started a hate campaign against them.

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Hate to tell you this but the Harland Sanders used 105 dollars from his first Social Security Check to build his franchises traveling accross the states.  His orginal restaurant was closed due to the highway being built and diverting traffic away from it ::)


In this case....Socialism won.  Harland Sanders was bankrupt at the time.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_Sanders

LMAO!

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no,  I am using an absurd analogy to expose absurdity of obamas analogy.  


If a communist like Obama wants to credit teachers w the success of business people who are successful why not equally. Give them blame for the failures?  




LMAO!

has your life been totally void of helpful people?

Were you such a cnut as a kid that you even turned the teachers off?

Mrs Evans, Mrs Goodwin, Mr Greene  - three teachers I look back on with fondness. I was an 'odd' kid - always off on my own tangent - these three humans encouraged me, rather than trying to get me to conform. I had many other teachers that were trying to fit this square peg into the regular round hole. Without the encouragement of these three teachers, I'd probably not have taken the risks I did in life.

I'm not rich but I am happy and I do stuff I like to do. My attitude to life would not be what it is if all the teachers I'd had were total conformists.

As for you - it is a shame you didn't have people go out of their way for you in your youth, to go the extra mile for you even if it wasn't required for them to do so.

Mind you, if you had - you'd have probably misinterpreted their intentions and started a hate campaign against them.

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LMAO!

Really?   How much did the Col. Pay in SS taxes? 

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The Self-Made Myth: Debunking Conservatives' Favorite -- And Most Dangerous -- Fiction
A new book makes a strong case that nobody ever makes it on their own in America.


http://www.alternet.org/story/155149/the_self-made_myth:_debunking_conservatives%27_favorite_--_and_most_dangerous_--_fiction_?page=entire


Businesses grow due to a good business model, product, service, or combo of the above, not anything the govt does.