What do you think about this bench press session (Kai Video)

[mesmorph78]

what do you think...?

[Danjo]

Pretty good session...I'm surprised he went that heavy on flat bench that close to the Olympia.

[Fortress]

Shot well, but for all the "zen" crap, it's still a drugged-up dude doing the same un-specific resistance training done by bodybuilders the world over. Just random poundage done for random reps.

Stimulate in some fashion and then let the genetics, food and drugs do the rest.

[mesmorph78]

Shot well, but for all the "zen" crap, it's still a drugged-up dude doing the same un-specific resistance training done by bodybuilders the world over. Just random poundage done for random reps.

Stimulate in some fashion and then let the genetics, food and drugs do the rest.

so he did 315 by himself  ... first set
every other set his trainer had his hand on the bar from rep 1
why not just do what you can then when a spot is needed..... a few forced reps.....

didnt kai say on another video Ill never be a weight lifter...

 

[G_Thang]

 

Kai's 50% leach.  Now, he probably has some money left over to put in his savings account.  The narrator is a fool.  Kai was stripping in NY, so the seedy bullshit of Vegas is nothing to him vs the common man.   

[Fortress]

Kai's 50% leach.  Now, he probably has some money left over to put in his savings account.  The narrator is a fool.  Kai was stripping in NY, so the seedy bullshit of Vegas is nothing to him vs the common man.   

I agree. The narrator talks about these two being somehow "pure" in Vegas ... Really? So the illicit drug use and body abuse equates to purity? 

[Danjo]

I agree. The narrator talks about these two being somehow "pure" in Vegas ... Really? So the illicit drug use and body abuse equates to purity? 

True...the irony.

[Fortress]

True...the irony.

Hey, people can do what they like, but I HATE the horseshit holier-than-thou crud.

[Danjo]

Also why does he either have to wear some crazy hoody(that would make a star wars jawa jealous) while he trains or some ultra cheesy,beyond flaming mask,while he guest poses..??!  

[Danjo]

Hey, people can do what they like, but I HATE the horseshit holier-than-thou crud.

I hear ya..100%

[chaos]

Also why does he either have to wear some crazy hoody(that would make a star wars jawa jealous) while he trains or some ultra cheesy,beyond flaming mask,while he guest poses..??!  

Have you seen his face

[mesmorph78]

mesomorph, please stfu, are you trying to say youre stronger or hes weak?

hes strong like an ox and in the middle of contest prep.

You're dumb... first you say shut the fuck up, then you proceed to ask me a question ...?



here's a question for you shit for brains.

where did I say I was stronger?  
......
IMO
getting a spot from rep 1 is dumb

see dorian ronnie levrone's training

now you can fuck off  

[Danjo]

Have you seen his face

Yes I have....I guess I should have figured  ...just didn't think he was self loathing about his mug. Thought his masks were more of his ''flamboyant'' persona.

[Raymondo]

what do you think...?

Three-quarter reps. And with assistance.

Still, extremely strong dude.

[Raymondo]

Also I think the Oscar dude faked pulling his pec... they did it to add some drama to the video.

[mesmorph78]

oh really?

i think youre the dumb one here, because, uhm, kai's development speaks for itself.

whatever hes doing it certainly seems to work.

spare me the predictable"hes on drugs and im not"

you claim to be natty at incredible stats/numbers(not that you look incredible, its just not credible numbers for a natural), so lets assume you are natty, then you wouldnt know the first thing about what effective training on steroids looks like.

now go choke on semen

please shut the fuck up the thread is about kai .... just kai.....
try to stop thinking about me and what i do ... kai is the famous bb top  pro so to the thread HIM
try to keep on topic...  get me off your mind shit pusher....
end of

[mesmorph78]

Three-quarter reps. And with assistance.

Still, extremely strong dude.

agree with this... why the assistance BEFORE failing.... BEFORE even beginning...
and strangley enough its always on the bench....
it look just as dumb as someone loading up a barbell and getting someone to help them curl it from rep one...

[Trapper_Slapper]

so he did 315 by himself  ... first set
every other set his trainer had his hand on the bar from rep 1
why not just do what you can then when a spot is needed..... a few forced reps.....

didnt kai say on another video Ill never be a weight lifter...

 

Probably one of the reason's why he doesn't train with Oscar anymore. This video here was shot after the Overkill & Redemption dvds...

[mesmorph78]

Probably one of the reason's why he doesn't train with Oscar anymore. This video here was shot after the Overkill & Redemption dvds...

was it ok... that kinda makes sense

[Raymondo]

so he did 315 by himself  ... first set
every other set his trainer had his hand on the bar from rep 1
why not just do what you can then when a spot is needed..... a few forced reps.....

didnt kai say on another video Ill never be a weight lifter...

 

At the risk of sounding like a wanker , there are mad amounts of seo in kai's biceps there. He probably follows the Palumbo philosophy of applying it before training so that it stretches your fascia...

[Danjo]

At the risk of sounding like a wanker , there are mad amounts of seo in kai's biceps there. He probably follows the Palumbo philosophy of applying it before training so that it stretches your fascia...

I always thought his lower bis looked kinda funny(suspect) but can't say for sure.

[Raymondo]

I always thought his lower bis looked kinda funny(suspect) but can't say for sure.

It's like they droop, it's quite unnatural.

[Parker]

Shot well, but for all the "zen" crap, it's still a drugged-up dude doing the same un-specific resistance training done by bodybuilders the world over. Just random poundage done for random reps.

Stimulate in some fashion and then let the genetics, food and drugs do the rest.

And there are many paths to Rome---some get there differently.
I don't think he enjoys taking the massive amount of drugs, especialy since after getting rid of Oscar, Farah was shocked at Kai's bloodwork.
I don't think most of the guys "enjoy" taking all that stuff, they do what they must.

As far as the lifting, if comparing Ronnie, Kev's or Shawn's training vids, the having the hand on the bar from the 1st rep is not done---of course these are guys known for their chests.
The only thing that Kai has in common is rep range (with Ronnie), Ronnie sometimes didn't push the weight all the way up to the top, therefore keeping tension on the chest, and not resting at the top.

[mesmorph78]

ok, on topic, he has monster strenght considering the circumstances and those 3 quarter reps with assistance obviously work for him, because on steroids, methods like this can be useful.
when you do very heavy weights with little bit assistance from spotter while on steroids, you get a different kind of pump than what you get on squeezing out slow and proper form reps.the pump has a very special feel and i personaly think it helps a great deal to get muscle thickness.

and maybe the spotter helps just by some 10lbs or so at the start, its simply a method of increasing intensity/pushing the limit.

very few bodybuilders can do 10 full proper reps on bench with 315lbs, esp on diet.

see what was so hard about that....
and i actually agree kai is a strong presser i have seen a vid where he comfortably pressed 405 for like 8 to 10 reps

[Wolfsanglerune]

some observations of my own..i think alot permabulker types who love quoting all there big numbers like bench will always never want to try getting in shape for fear of losing strength.
im always impressed most by ones who can stay fairly lean and strong as well.