God quote

[Krankenstein]

I know this thread will probably get derailed and turned into an argument, but a while back someone put a quote on here from a philosopher, or historical figure wherein they talked about (I think this is right) both sides of the question if god is real or not.

I have a friend who started in on me with the god talk when the subject of my fathers passing came up.  The line about "its not ours to question who struggles or suffers" came up.  To which I got pissed because of how there are so many scum bag fucks out there who need to die immediately and I had to watch my dad waste away to a shell of his former self.

Annnnyway...hopefully someone will know what the fuck I am talking about.

[Metabolic]

Hi, Krankenstein,

I'm sorry to hear about you losing your father. You might be thinking about Pascal's wager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager).

Which is a bullshit quote, theres a youtube video clearly explaining why the Wager is actually against you.

tl;dr the wager is bullshit because it implies there is only one (and even further implying "true") god, when actually there is thousands if not more, so by believing in the christian god (the ulterior reason Pascal formulated the wager) odds are actually against you that you are right.

[SF1900]

sorry to hear about your dad, krank.

i hate when people say "its not our place who suffers" So freaking stupid. Good way to relieve your god of any sort of responsibility. This is base on the assumption that a god even exists.

[chaos]

sorry to hear about your dad, krank.

i hate when people say "its not our place who suffers" So freaking stupid. Good way to relieve your god of any sort of responsibility. This is base on the assumption that a god even exists.

Negative midget post reported.

[Kahn.N.Singh]

Which is a bullshit quote, theres a youtube video clearly explaining why the Wager is actually against you.

tl;dr the wager is bullshit because it implies there is only one (and even further implying "true") god, when actually there is thousands if not more, so by believing in the christian god (the ulterior reason Pascal formulated the wager) odds are actually against you that you are right.

Easy. I did not defend the wager. I suggested that it might be what K was thinking of. I'm aware of its deficiencies (No need for me to look at Youtube, I taught it at university, and criticized it through multiple perspectives and arguments very recently).

[Bam-bam]

Which is a bullshit quote, theres a youtube video clearly explaining why the Wager is actually against you.

tl;dr the wager is bullshit because it implies there is only one (and even further implying "true") god, when actually there is thousands if not more, so by believing in the christian god (the ulterior reason Pascal formulated the wager) odds are actually against you that you are right.

sorry but I wage in Pascals favor against any internet broscientist trying to outsmart him.

[Metabolic]

sorry but I wage in Pascals favor against any internet broscientist trying to outsmart him.

Good for you 

[SF1900]

Negative midget post reported.

I love when you pick on me. Its like the little girl in the playground who pinches and kicks the boy she likes  

ps- I am 5'6" above midget height 

[SF1900]

sorry but I wage in Pascals favor against any internet broscientist trying to outsmart him.

haha, favoring in pascals wager = I feel bad for you.

[chaos]

I love when you pick on me. Its like the little girl in the playground who pinches and kicks the boy she likes  

ps- I am 5'6" above midget height 

Dwarf/midget/little person......whatever you people like to be called this week.

[SF1900]

Dwarf/midget/little person......whatever you people like to be called this week.

Or maybe just a "human being" like all other homo sapiens 

[chaos]

Or maybe just a "human being" like all other homo sapiens 

LOL You're a homo alright....

[Bam-bam]

sorry nothing personalbut i will be on the side of whoever have highest IQ, which in this case would be hmmm Pascal by 200 points or so.

[SF1900]

sorry but i will be on the side of the whatever dude with the highest IQ, which would be hmmm Pascal by 200 points or so.

haha, thats pretty stupid. Take a look at Stephen Hawkings, Richard Feynman, Albert Einstein, all of whom are atheists. Just as smart as Pascal. Doesn't mean pascal is right.

 

[Bam-bam]

haha, thats pretty stupid. Take a look at Stephen Hawkings, Richard Feynman, Albert Einstein, all of whom are atheists. Just as smart as Pascal. Doesn't mean pascal is right.

 

neither of them proved god didnt exist, thus validating the logic behind Pascals wage, hope this helps.

[Metabolic]

neither of them proved god didnt exist, thus validating the logic behind Pascals wage, hope this helps.

The sad part is I cant tell if youre a decent troll or very stupid.

[Krankenstein]

Appreciate the sentiments.  Actually after he took his final breath, I was fucking pissed...went outside to cool down.  Threw a nice bird towards the sky with a big ol' "FUCK YOU".

Regarding the quote the guy made, I can recall something about how if god existed why should he care if we sat there constantly praising him (or something like that).  If god didnt exsist, think of all the time wasted worshiping him.  (again, or something to that effect)

[SF1900]

neither of them proved god didnt exist, thus validating the logic behind Pascals wage, hope this helps.

That is HORRIBLE LOGIC!!! I can't even argue with logic that stupid. Seriously, just because you can't disprove something, it doesn't mean it exists.

You're either really dumb or trolling.

[The True Adonis]

Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.- Marcus Aurelius

[Bam-bam]

That is HORRIBLE LOGIC!!! I can't even argue with logic that stupid. Seriously, just because you can't disprove something, it doesn't mean it exists.

You're either really dumb or trolling.

i take you still dont understand the logic behind Pascals wage since it doesnt aim to prove God existence, quite the opposite.

[SF1900]

i take you still dont understand the logic behind Pascals wage since it doesnt aim to prove God existence, quite the opposite.

No, I totally get pascals wager. Its pretty straightforward

It posits that there's more to be gained from wagering on the existence of God than from atheism, and that a rational person should live as though God exists, even though the truth of the matter cannot actually be known.

Yes, I should just live as though God may exist, because I have more to lose in believing he doesnt exist. Yes, great logic.

[Bam-bam]

you can get into a time machine and lecture pascal on logic then 

[tbombz]

Which is a bullshit quote, theres a youtube video clearly explaining why the Wager is actually against you.

tl;dr the wager is bullshit because it implies there is only one (and even further implying "true") god, when actually there is thousands if not more, so by believing in the christian god (the ulterior reason Pascal formulated the wager) odds are actually against you that you are right.

there are thousands of gods ?   proof ?    

[SF1900]

you can get into a time machine and lecture pascal on logic then 

Oh please, his stupid idea has been debunked and refuted many times over. 

[OTHstrong]

I know this thread will probably get derailed and turned into an argument, but a while back someone put a quote on here from a philosopher, or historical figure wherein they talked about (I think this is right) both sides of the question if god is real or not.

I have a friend who started in on me with the god talk when the subject of my fathers passing came up.  The line about "its not ours to question who struggles or suffers" came up.  To which I got pissed because of how there are so many scum bag fucks out there who need to die immediately and I had to watch my dad waste away to a shell of his former self.

Annnnyway...hopefully someone will know what the fuck I am talking about.

Sorry about your loss brother.

Are you talking about the conversation between Einstein and his Professor?