Fuck ME.
No, thanks!! I'm hetero and married.
Mark Henry dieted down wouldn't win shit. By your logic, anyone who lifts weights could diet down and win a pro qualifier. Fuck sakes. Now, if Mark dieted down and did win a pro qualifier ... perhaps he could be considered the strongest pro. His numbers at that point would tell the tale.
Again, I have highlighted a particularly exposing statement by you that shines a light on your inability to fully grasp what we're discussing here.
I grasp what's being discussed quite well. I never claimed anyone who lifted weights could diet down and turn pro. With that said, we've seen a rash of folks who get clobbered at the Nationals and USA on a regular basis get their pro cards via the Masters Nationals.
The point I made with Mark Henry (no I don't think there's a pro physique, buried under his blubber) is that all you have to do is get some well-known powerlifter with a halfway decent physique, get him to the IFBB pro level, and (if his numbers exceed those of Efferding), he's the world's strongest bodybuilders.
Stan's a pro bodybuilder. Whether Johnnie's won more bodybuilding events makes zero difference to the outcome of a factual discussion concerning the strongest pro bodybuilder. Better physique ... worse physique ... both men are pro bodybuilders (a certain achievement, unarguably) and Stan is stronger.
Who is the overall better bodybuilder with a powerlifting meet to his name isn't the discussion. It's WHO IS THE STRONGEST PRO BODYBUILDER. AGAIN, Stan is a pro, just like Johnnie, and he's stronger.
Let get it together here, man. I don't figure you're retarded, so don't argue with a logic that is fitting for one who is.
Don't powerlifters win meets by having the best OVERALL SCORE, not just dominating in one particular category?
That's my point and rationale for giving Jackson the nod over Efferding. He has the better COMBO of strength and physique. Stan is stronger but he's get blown offstage when he competes as a bodybuilder.
When you add the qualifier of bodybuilder into the mix, I'm picking a guy who won the Nationals, three pro shows, and placed top 10 at the Olympia all day over a guy who hasn't placed higher than 9th at any pro show (and became a pro via the Masters Nationals).