Ryan: Stimulus package needed for business growth

[Straw Man]

In 2002 when Bush was trying to pass his own stimulus plan Ryan said in an interview The Journal Times:

“You have to spend a little to grow a little. What we’re trying to do is stimulate that part of the economy that’s on its back.”

http://www.journaltimes.com/news/local/article_f99faa8c-bc03-5870-a360-58a4f7213ea0.html#ixzz1Y2nP86sE

He also went to the floor of the House and pleaded that

The things we’re trying to pass in this bill are the time-tested, proven, bipartisan solutions to get businesses to stop laying off people, to hire people back, and to help those people who have lost their jobs. . . .

We’ve got to get the engine of economic growth growing again because we now know, because of recession, we don’t have the revenues that we wanted to, we don’t have the revenues we need

so apparently he thought stimulus worked just fine as long it was a Republican POTUS that was proposing these "time tested and proven bipartisan solutions"

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[240 is Back]

Ouch.  Tough to defend those statements.   

[blacken700]

Ouch.  Tough to defend those statements.   

not really,obama's a communist marxist and all you liberal pieces of garbage STFU and die?  see not too tough 

[Straw Man]

Ouch.  Tough to defend those statements.   

Isn't this just par for the course for Ryan

maybe at the same time he learned that Ayn Rand was an atheist and he said the following he also learned that "time-tested, proven, bipartisan solutions" were really a "wasteful spending spree"....though of course no apologies for advocating a wasteful spending spree when Bush was in office.   He just didn't know any better at that time


“I reject her philosophy,” Ryan said this year. “It’s an atheist philosophy. It reduces human interactions down to mere contracts and it is antithetical to my worldview. If somebody is going to try to paste a person’s view on epistemology to me, then give me Thomas Aquinas…Don’t give me Ayn Rand.”

Since Ryan now says we should give him Thomas Aquinas rather than Ayn Rand I guess we can assume he agrees with this statement


“Man should not consider his material possession his own, but as common to all, so as to share them without hesitation when others are in need.” — St. Thomas Aquinas

[howardroark]

Like I've been consistently pointing out in these forums... Paul Ryan is a typical politician with no core values.

[Fury]

Ouch.  Tough to defend those statements.   

But surprisingly you have no problem defending Obama's constant flip-flopping. Your posts are beyond comical at this point.

Like I've been consistently pointing out in these forums... Paul Ryan is a typical politician with no core values.

This is true. He's got a lot of work to do to catch up to the Usurper, though.

[tu_holmes]

But surprisingly you have no problem defending Obama's constant flip-flopping. Your posts are beyond comical at this point.

This is true. He's got a lot of work to do to catch up to the Usurper, though.

If Obama is the top of the shit pile,  these guys aren't far off anymore.

The Republicans had the PERFECT guy and they just keep pushing him down.

[Fury]

If Obama is the top of the shit pile,  these guys aren't far off anymore.

The Republicans had the PERFECT guy and they just keep pushing him down.

This is true.

[240 is Back]

Like I've been consistently pointing out in these forums... Paul Ryan is a typical politician with no core values.

I want to disagree with you.  his voting record, I could excuse, he was just agreeing with Bush and being a yes man.

His lies this week?  I'll chalk that up to Romney campaign making him retreat from honest positions.  being a yes man.

I believed he would follow the tea party tenets, despite his voting record.  I still believe he will.  I dont have any track record to base this on, just a feeling I had. 

it's not like his VP nomination was bought for $100 mil or anything.

[whork]

Like I've been consistently pointing out in these forums... Paul Ryan is a typical politician with no core values.

He fits Romney

[Soul Crusher]

Funny how obamabots and slaves want to hold Ryan to a different standard than their God King and Idol. 

[whork]

Funny how obamabots and slaves want to hold Ryan to a different standard than their God King and Idol. 

You are the only Obamabot here you spend 20+ hours a day typing about him

[Soul Crusher]

You are the only Obamabot here you spend 20+ hours a day typing about him

    

Stand up Chuck! 

[whork]

   

Stand up Chuck! 

Well you do if he didnt excist you would have to 20+ hours every day to fill in

[240 is Back]

I think Ryan would be the most competent president out of all 4 people on the tickets.

I just wish he'd quit this fuckin lying - Shrug off past inconsistencies.  Don't be all squirelly with "I don't recall"... That doesn't work anymore. In this era of youtube, if you said it, you own it.  He was dodging that Q for days - which meant his team and him knew very well about his past statements.  Denying it because he thinks it won't come out?  Very weak.

Just be honest and own it - ppl will understand he was just being a yes man to Bush.  Who hasn't been a yes Man to their boss?  He can't claim to be a maverick or bold or brave - but simple competence he can.  Stick with that.

[Option D]

Funny how obamabots and slaves want to hold Ryan to a different standard than their God King and Idol. 

So you have nothing to say about these statements above?

[Soul Crusher]

So you have nothing to say about these statements above?

Shows he is party man and as a young congressman went along w the rest.    What else you want me to say? 

I am not going to deny the pbvious like the obamatrons do to prop up his failed presidency     

[Option D]

Shows he is party man and as a young congressman went along w the rest.    What else you want me to say? 
I am not going to deny the pbvious like the obamatrons do to prop up his failed presidency     

You wouldnt have commented on it either if i hadnt pointed it out...

You are so fucking weak in your stances its not even funny.. you have no political stances at all.. No core values which is evident in your "sources"
You have a personal vendetta with Obama like the Joker has with Batman. You need him to exisit to validate your life. At all costs.. So what you put two lame ass politicians up to run against Obama.. who cares, as long as they are anti Obama, were good and we can look over look how awful they are all in the name of shitting on Obama... Your integrity meter is at zero. Dude stand for something... and post on it even if it happens to be moderate or go against Repubs...You cant comment on a flaw of a republican with  out bringing up Obama."but but but.. Obama did it too"... Got damn it man... Start seeing Politicians for what they are and stop thinking that the worlds problems will be solved with the ousting of Obama and the implementation of Douche and Doucher who have thus far shown not to be very different that what we have currently in the white house. Fuck man this is getting just plain on sad watching you with this retarded shit..

[Straw Man]

I'd really like a reporter to ask Ryan exactly how and why he changed his mind on spending money to stimulate the economy (keep in mind that the plan he's so passionately advocating for included Bush's idea to just mail checks to everyone in the country) and why the deficit didn't matter at that time

I'd follow up with asking him if he feels responsibility for our current fiscal situation since he went along with virtually every Republican proposal which had the result of increasing the deficit and the debt

After that, I'd like to ask his running mate exactly when he changed his mind on abortion rights and also when and why he moved from the left of Ted Kennedy on gay rights all the way over to the far right on the issue

[LurkerNoMore]

You wouldnt have commented on it either if i hadnt pointed it out...

You are so fucking weak in your stances its not even funny.. you have no political stances at all.. No core values which is evident in your "sources"
You have a personal vendetta with Obama like the Joker has with Batman. You need him to exisit to validate your life. At all costs.. So what you put two lame ass politicians up to run against Obama.. who cares, as long as they are anti Obama, were good and we can look over look how awful they are all in the name of shitting on Obama... Your integrity meter is at zero. Dude stand for something... and post on it even if it happens to be moderate or go against Repubs...You cant comment on a flaw of a republican with  out bringing up Obama."but but but.. Obama did it too"... Got damn it man... Start seeing Politicians for what they are and stop thinking that the worlds problems will be solved with the ousting of Obama and the implementation of Douche and Doucher who have thus far shown not to be very different that what we have currently in the white house. Fuck man this is getting just plain on sad watching you with this retarded shit..

LOL!!!

[Soul Crusher]

LOL!!!

As if your broken record gay stalking is any better? 

[LurkerNoMore]

Here we come with the gay projections already.

Meetings must be tense down at the Log Cabin Republicans for you.

[MCWAY]

In 2002 when Bush was trying to pass his own stimulus plan Ryan said in an interview The Journal Times:

http://www.journaltimes.com/news/local/article_f99faa8c-bc03-5870-a360-58a4f7213ea0.html#ixzz1Y2nP86sE

He also went to the floor of the House and pleaded that

so apparently he thought stimulus worked just fine as long it was a Republican POTUS that was proposing these "time tested and proven bipartisan solutions"

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Obama did his stimulus; it didn't work. 8% unemployment for 43 STRAIGHT MONTHS.......

NEXT!!!!

[Straw Man]

Obama did his stimulus; it didn't work. 8% unemployment for 43 STRAIGHT MONTHS.......

NEXT!!!!

fyi - that video is of Ryan begging people to vote for Bush's stimulus ...not Obama's

[240 is Back]

fyi - that video is of Ryan begging people to vote for Bush's stimulus ...not Obama's

I wonder why he changed his tune when Obama took office.  Typicaly partisan politics? 

I can imagine when Romney delivers a stimulus - He'd call it "industry boost" or something - Ryan will be selling it with a smile.