In a world without a "GOD".

[NarcissisticDeity]

good post.

lot of "atheists" decrying god and religion in one breath, only to turn around and loudly uphold christian morals with the next.

also lol @ "we don't need religion anymore, science tells us the truth!!"

epic still believing in truth, the core of all christianity

Hahahahahaha the ' truth ' being the core of all Christianity   

[Natural Man]

Life on earth is a test. We re molecules in a test tube, we re grown like grass, and a constant selection is at work everywhere. We re only designed to see/understand a small fraction of the big picture.
Either that, or we re machines programmed to kill each others endlessly until we re wiped by a natural disaster or our own hand.

"Intelligent", educated, faithful people maturing through life understand this. They understand the real meaning of the constant concept of causes/consequences. They cultivate themselves, others, in order to produce life, while others spend their whole life destroying it.
 Ultimately they are able to choose, select, for themselves or others, between good and evil. Human life couldnt keep going on if religion(s) didnt exist and if these people didnt exist.
 Religion is the cement between human beings. It gives people a meaning to their existence, a story where they can be a character. It explains the past, the present, and the future of mankind itself.

When the world population will be hit by the recession and wars that may follows, religion will be needed again. All of this is cyclical. After too many decades forgetting God, some men are selected to survive, while all the unfaithful ones swimming in their sins disappear massively, until one day the realm of God on earth is created by the very few remaining men.

Then, He will come.

All of those who died giving their life to prepare the kingdom of God on earth will join Him, and their fathers who did the same.

[Natural Man]

Hahahahahaha the ' truth ' being the core of all Christianity  

All educated , proeminent scientists come from deeply religious families. Atheist families do not produce scientists.

[NarcissisticDeity]

All educated , proeminent scientists come from deeply religious families. Atheist families do not produce scientists.

The moment you typed ' All ' is the moment you wont be taken seriously.

[Man of Steel]

That's the problem with Christians , everyone says ' oh he's not a ' real Christian '   

I wasn't given the choice to go to church or get baptized my mother decided that , I could care less about being a Christian especially at that age. The older I got the more I read up on religion and the argument against it and the obvious appeared

You edited your post. I would say more Christians become atheists than vice-versa

Exactly, you just said it yourself....you weren't a real Christian.   You had no genuine relationship with Christ.  You were taken to church regularly, baptized and went through the motions with your family, but you didn't truly understand as a child.  Then when you matured you began studying, asking questions and I assume your folks weren't able to provide sufficient answers to your questions so you made a choice for yourself.  It's by no means an uncommon situation.  Still regular attendance at a church, being dunked in a small pool of water at church, drinking grape juice and eating stale communion wafers, having Aunt Tilly give you a bible with your name on it does not make a Christian.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Life on earth is a test. We re molecules in a test tube, we re grown like grass, and a constant selection is at work everywhere. We re only designed to see/understand a small fraction of the big picture.
Either that, or we re machines programmed to kill each others endlessly until we re wiped by a natural disaster or our own hand.

"Intelligent", educated, faithful people maturing through life understand this. They understand the real meaning of the constant concept of causes/consequences. They cultivate themselves, others, in order to produce life, while others spend their whole life destroying it.
 Ultimately they are able to choose, select, for themselves or others, between good and evil. Human life couldnt keep going on if religion(s) didnt exist and if these people didnt exist.
 Religion is the cement between human beings. It gives people a meaning to their existence, a story where they can be a character. It explains the past, the present, and the future of mankind itself.

When the world population will be hit by the recession and wars that may follows, religion will be needed again. All of this is cyclical. After too many decades forgetting God, some men are selected to survive, while all the unfaithful ones swimming in their sins disappear massively, until one day the realm of God on earth is created by the very few remaining men.

Then, He will come.

All of those who died giving their life to prepare the kingdom of God on earth will join Him, and their fathers who did the same.

Keep ' believing ' that it's all you can do. 

[tu_holmes]

What do you mean by "What"?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Exactly, you just said it yourself....you weren't a real Christian.   You had no genuine relationship with Christ.  You were taken to church regularly, baptized and went through the motions with your family, but you didn't truly understand as a child.  Then when you matured you began studying, asking questions and I assume your folks weren't able to provide sufficient answers to your questions so you made a choice for yourself.  It's by no means an uncommon situation.  Still regular attendance at a church, being dunked in a small pool of water at church, drinking grape juice and eating stale communion wafers, having Aunt Tilly give you a bible with your name on it does not make a Christian.

Yes the old ' real Christian ' conundrum,  I see people say that all the time Catholics say it about Evangelicals , they say it about Catholics , Seventh Day Adventists say it about both , everyone says Mormons aren't , there is no such thing as a ' real Christian '  everyone else's version isn't the real one 

[Natural Man]

Let's see how you manage to go thru what's coming being a cynical, nihilistic atheist "NarcissisticDeity"  

[NarcissisticDeity]

Let's see how you manage to go thru what's coming being a cynical, nihilistic atheist "NarcissisticDeity"  

Oh noes the rapture is coming lol like I said keep believing it's all you can do.

And I actually chose this name because it perfectly describes the God of the Christian bible

[Man of Steel]

Yes the old ' real Christian ' conundrum,  I see people say that all the time Catholics say it about Evangelicals , they say it about Catholics , Seventh Day Adventists say it about both , everyone says Mormons aren't , there is no such thing as a ' real Christian '  everyone else's version isn't the real one  

People are great about defining and labeling each other, but a decision for Christ is an individual decision and an individual walk.  The "Christian conundrum" you mention doesn't fit your situation.  You were a child that didn't fully understand and didn't make a choice...it was made for you.  As you matured you then made a choice for yourself.  That said, you weren't a Christian, but you did participate in regular Christian activities.  This isn't an insult, this is just the situation you indicated.  

I just don't want others reading the suggested notion that "I was a Christian and left the faith for atheism".  This didn't happen here.

[Man of Steel]

that just means I'm mentioning the terms rather than using them. It's the difference between saying 'What does God mean?' and 'What does "God" mean?" The first is asking what the creator of the universe means in some given situation, whereas the second is referring to the WORD God.

LOL!!  I appreciate you playing along!  Just messin with ya!

[NarcissisticDeity]

People are great about defining and labeling each other, but a decision for Christ is an individual decision and an individual walk.  The "Christian conundrum" you mention doesn't fit your situation.  You were a child that didn't fully understand and didn't make a choice...it was made for you.  As you matured you then made a choice for yourself.  That said, you weren't a Christian, but you did participate in regular Christian activities.  This isn't an insult, this is just the situation you indicated.

You'll get no argument from me about me being a ' true Christian ' but that term gets thrown around to much anyway , everyone think's they are a true Christian and thinks everyone else isn't

My mother who is a ' true Christian ' scoffs at Catholics ( ironically my father was one ) and says they are not true Christians because they pray and worship statues 

You think you're a true Christian some other Christians probably wouldn't feel you are , like all  religions claim to be the one true one

[OTHstrong]

that just means I'm mentioning the terms rather than using them. It's the difference between saying 'What does God mean?' and 'What does "God" mean?" The first is asking what the creator of the universe means in some given situation, whereas the second is referring to the WORD God.

Bro no offence but this is getbig and half your post's are about correcting people on their English. Bro no one gives a shit, stop with this obsession of yours. Everyone around here understands each other. Fuckman this isn't school brother  

[Man of Steel]

You'll get no argument from me about me being a ' true Christian ' but that term gets thrown around to much anyway , everyone think's they are a true Christian and thinks everyone else isn't

My mother who is a ' true Christian ' scoffs at Catholics ( ironically my father was one ) and says they are not true Christians because they pray and worship statues  

You think you're a true Christian some other Christians probably wouldn't feel you are , like all  religions claim to be the one true one

Well, I don't disagree with your response here, but my last few replies were more about the statement you made about most atheists being former Christians.  Certainly some Christians have become atheists (and vice versa), but by no means are most atheists former Christians.  When you included your background it appeared you were using that to emphasize this point, but I just wanted to note for other readers that a baptized child that attended regular Sunday school that made no personal decision for Christ and later as an adult calls himself/herself an atheist was not a former Christian that became an atheist.

[Man of Steel]

AHAAHAHA!!!  He is "syntaxmachine"...it's in the name.

[Radical Plato]

What would you do if humans found out that there was no god, no afterlife, etc.... Would you be tempted to sin?  Steal, cheat, murder etc....?  Would the Police /government matter anymore?  Would there be civil wars in every major country?  There is a good that comes from religion.

Humanity has been living in a world without GOD since time began, people don't need fairy tales to motivate them to behave morally, it is actually in an individuals own best interest to act in a way that is based on minimising the suffering of his fellow man.  A world were some believe in GOD has caused millions to die and suffer. Hardly what any decent individual would call "GOOD".  Perhaps you should research what your fellow GOD Botherers (The Church) have done to steal, cheat and murder in the name of GOD, God Botherers SINS have known no end, they commit horrendous crimes and attempt to cover them up, from the Spanish Inquisition, burning women at the stake, there support of NAZISM, Pedophilia etc etc.  the list is endless of the crimes by God Botherers - they are vile and evil and suffer from the greatest ignorance and indoctrination known to man.  I feel sorry for you, that you blindly believe that nonsense.

[Radical Plato]

In a world without religion, we would revert back to a true "survival of the fittest attitude".  He who is the strongest, takes what he wants.

That's what we currently have you idiot! How do you think it is that you ended up an ignorant imbecile with little resources while others run the military, dominate other countries, create and remove laws, have unlimited financial reserves, control the media and what people believe etc, etc,  You have made the mistake of thinking that strength is bench pressing 500 pounds, strength in modern day terms is power and control, and those at the top of the tree, do as they please and take what they want.

[da_vinci]

Human life couldnt keep going on if religion(s) didnt exist and if these people didnt exist.

Somehow it made through for eons of years...  

Uh oh, and statistically (take ANY country) the lesser is the education of a poppulation - the higher is a religiousness (and vice versa). Makes one wonder, eh? (and of course - these dumb uneducated people, but who believe IN GOD must be the driving force to a "brighter tomorrow". Not these "cynical atheists", who are simply educated and analytical people who saw who's putting the gifts under an x-mass tree, so no more "Santa"...).

 

Religion is the cement between human beings. It gives people a meaning to their existence, a story where they can be a character. It explains the past, the present, and the future of mankind itself.

A "cement" which is one of the main reasons people killed each other for thousands of years (and continue to "divide"each other by "muslim", "christian", etc.. from an early childhood. Quite a "nice" cinditioning from the age when a person doesn'teven know what that means.). A cement based on FALSE beliefs and illusions, which's main goal is to indoctrinate a person, make him non-thinking zombie, touting all these ridiculous nonsenses from the "holly book". Oh, and raising a kid while teaching him to be a good, contributing person in general, help and love other people, etc.. is probably a lot more difficult compared to teaching a kid about an imaginary friend and all that schizoprenic stuff. Even a pit-bull raised by a caring and loving owner will be a "friend for everyone" dog, and a human being MUST believe fairy tales to "survive" and be a "good human being".
 SO FULL OF SHIT it's sickening.

When the world population will be hit by the recession and wars that may follows, religion will be needed again. All of this is cyclical. After too many decades forgetting God, some men are selected to survive, while all the unfaithful ones swimming in their sins disappear massively, until one day the realm of God on earth is created by the very few remaining men.

Somehow I suspect that you are a loser whichs only hope to "succeed" is a scenario above ^^
I'll correct you again, as you are wrong. In the case of war - the SMARTEST, richest and most advanced SCIENTIFICALLY will survive, it's not fukkin middle-ages anymore, wake the fukk up.

All educated , proeminent scientists come from deeply religious families. Atheist families do not produce scientists.

Once again - NOT TRUE. By Gallup Media statistical data - 93% of the members of US national academy of sciences are ATHEISTS (and the rest - agnostics, while a very very small fraction - theists).
 I agree with you on some stuff when it comes to survival, etc.. you've done your homework, but it baffles me how a well educated person may be so dumb at the same time, it really really baffles me. Freud must've been right - The biggest power of religion comes from a human nature.

Let's see how you manage to go thru what's coming being a cynical, nihilistic atheist

That's not for me, but I almost always get something like that from "believers" every time I get into a discussion on this issue. Well my answer is simple - I've had a few really close brushes with death in my life, and guess what - not even a single thought about "god" came into my head, nor before, nor during, nor after. It was a cold logic and common sense that saved me actually.

Then, He will come.

All of those who died giving their life to prepare the kingdom of God on earth will join Him, and their fathers who did the same.

yeah..he "will" come... right from above the sky. A fukkin psycho, who's so full of himself that created a shithole like earth for people to suffer so they could "enter heaven" after that... Guess what - all that was "just for fun" for that fella, BUT we are the ones who are satisfying fantasies of that sick fucker.

[IrishMuscle84]

Why can't someone (like me) have the balls to admit that my primitive brain can't comprehend one way or another?  I definately don't follow the man-made bible, but I do think that there is a reason why there are billions of planets out there.  There is almost no mathematical chance that we are the only living life forms in the universe.  I believe in a higher power, I just have no idea who or what it is.  None of us do.

AGREED.

[da_vinci]

I'll add - yes, it's about survival and only survival. Religiion is one of the ways to survive and actually NOT DIE (oh, guess what - not dying IS a survival) even after you are dead. What a "smart" strategy. I'm sorry but I'll dissapoint religious nuts by saying that only way humanity lowered (and keep lowering) chances of death is by SCIENCE, not a fukkin religion, which exists just out of pure FEAR OF THAT DEATH we all are so eagerly trying to escape. But what happens if one isn't afraid of feath anymore? Yes - any religion doesn't make sense anymore (aside an education and common sense, which are usualy first ones that eradicate that nonsense out of a persons mind).
 Am I afraid of death - FUKK NO. I'm afraid of being very sick, I'm afraid of getting old and crippled, I'm afraid of being in pain before death, but of death by itself? What to be afraid of "nothing" (just the way it was before my birth)? Try to wrap your mind around this one u fukkin bible thumpers..

[zodiac]

religion is a joke..religion hijacked humanity.

[King Shizzo]

religion is a joke..religion hijacked humanity.

I hate religion, but religion has kept humanity in check.

[cephissus]

I'll add - yes, it's about survival and only survival. Religiion is one of the ways to survive and actually NOT DIE (oh, guess what - not dying IS a survival) even after you are dead. What a "smart" strategy. I'm sorry but I'll dissapoint religious nuts by saying that only way humanity lowered (and keep lowering) chances of death is by SCIENCE, not a fukkin religion, which exists just out of pure FEAR OF THAT DEATH we all are so eagerly trying to escape. But what happens if one isn't afraid of feath anymore? Yes - any religion doesn't make sense anymore (aside an education and common sense, which are usualy first ones that eradicate that nonsense out of a persons mind).
 Am I afraid of death - FUKK NO. I'm afraid of being very sick, I'm afraid of getting old and crippled, I'm afraid of being in pain before death, but of death by itself? What to be afraid of "nothing" (just the way it was before my birth)? Try to wrap your mind around this one u fukkin bible thumpers..

Science is a religion, I hope this helps. 

[Radical Plato]

Science is a religion, I hope this helps. 

One without a GOD - thank GOD for that!