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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #125 on: August 20, 2012, 01:01:48 PM »
Who created the matrix? Don't know. But one thing is certain, who ever is in charge of this realm, it has no empathy and looks at all of us as its slaves.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #126 on: August 20, 2012, 01:05:20 PM »
Really? REALLY?

So much of how we educate, train and maintain "order" is a result of religious indoctrination down through the ages.

Like it or not, we have all been brainwashed to varying degrees by nonsensical religious doctrine and law.

(Hell, if I live with a woman for any length of time the state then considers us married ... essentially. Don't fool yourself, either: Such invasiveness is mostly testimony to a puritan ideology derived from religion.)

Are you really asking me this?!!

I do not believe you are this dim. Possibly heavily brainwashed, sure, but not this simple as to not grasp the overriding influence of religion, in all its permutations, across all mankind.

Just stop.



Here's hoping you and your common law wife aren't forced to attend anymore Sunday school.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #127 on: August 20, 2012, 01:09:15 PM »
Here's hoping you and your common law wife aren't forced to attend anymore Sunday school.

You're out to lunch.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #128 on: August 20, 2012, 01:11:04 PM »
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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #129 on: August 20, 2012, 01:11:36 PM »
You're out to lunch.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #130 on: August 20, 2012, 01:18:05 PM »
Non-religious violence far outweighs historical violence committed in the name of God.

you mean violence in the name of no god? or just violence with no religious motives? because not having a belief in god can have no logical in roads towards violence, the implications you subjectively attribute to no god is your issue.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #131 on: August 20, 2012, 01:24:04 PM »
you mean violence in the name of no god? or just violence with no religious motives? because not having a belief in god can have no logical in roads towards violence, the implications you subjectively attribute to no god is your issue.

sure thing champ

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #132 on: August 20, 2012, 01:26:30 PM »
Well, I don't disagree with your response here, but my last few replies were more about the statement you made about most atheists being former Christians.  Certainly some Christians have become atheists (and vice versa), but by no means are most atheists former Christians.  When you included your background it appeared you were using that to emphasize this point, but I just wanted to note for other readers that a baptized child that attended regular Sunday school that made no personal decision for Christ and later as an adult calls himself/herself an atheist was not a former Christian that became an atheist.

So let me get this straight , are you claiming that no children of Christian parents are ' true Christians ' until they decide to seek Christ for themselves?

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #133 on: August 20, 2012, 02:09:49 PM »
Really? REALLY?

So much of how we educate, train and maintain "order" is a result of religious indoctrination down through the ages.

Like it or not, we have all been brainwashed to varying degrees by nonsensical religious doctrine and law.

(Hell, if I live with a woman for any length of time the state then considers us married ... essentially. Don't fool yourself, either: Such invasiveness is mostly testimony to a puritan ideology derived from religion.)

Are you really asking me this?!!

I do not believe you are this dim. Possibly heavily brainwashed, sure, but not this simple as to not grasp the overriding influence of religion, in all its permutations, across all mankind.

Just stop.



Good post.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #134 on: August 20, 2012, 02:18:02 PM »
So let me get this straight , are you claiming that no children of Christian parents are ' true Christians ' until they decide to seek Christ for themselves?

Well, an individual must first be able to make a choice like that for themselves...be able to understand sin and the consequences therein.   In the instance of small children or the mentally handicapped they wouldn't be held accountable for their actions and in that sense would be considered Christians like their Christian parents.  God knows the contents of our hearts and judges us accordingly.  For those children mature enough to make a genuine decision, that possess a comprehension of sin and salvation, they would not be considered a Christian like their Christians parents and would then need to make an individual decision for Christ.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #135 on: August 20, 2012, 02:19:12 PM »
Good post.

He could've posted "religion is nonsense and Christians are dumb" and gotten the same response out of most.

"good post"
"this"
etc...

Just gotta be on the God haters side and all posts are deemed quality.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #136 on: August 20, 2012, 02:37:15 PM »
He could've posted "religion is nonsense and Christians are dumb" and gotten the same response out of most.

"good post"
"this"
etc...

Just gotta be on the God haters side and all posts are deemed quality.

Not at all.  If you've followed my posts in this thread, you'll see I've irked the "God haters" more than the "God lovers."  I thought Fortress had a good post because it objected to "religion" (i.e. Christianity) on important and relevant grounds (i.e. the effects of Christianity on human development as a whole), not the usual "LOLZ CAN'T BELIEVE U BELIEF IN FAERY TAILZ" cacophony, which is usually spewed by people with the exact same intelligence as your average Christian, who would undoubtedly be Christians had they been born two hundred years ago.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #137 on: August 20, 2012, 02:39:37 PM »
Look bro, it's an emotional choice. You want to feel as if you've got an omnipotent father figure watching after you, fine, it's your predicament. You want to belong to a tradition that is hundreds of years old and share a feeling of kinship with other like-minded people, that's fine too, humans have an innate sense to belong... the rest of it is a big old hocus pocus voodoo old wives' tale from a very long and extremely gruesome period in the history of the species... this is how people coped back then, do you understand? Religion is evolutionary buggage, it's not needed anymore, which is why in every nation (apart from America and maybe Ireland) where the standard of living goes up, faith goes down.

The problem is that most nonbelievers know everything about God yet have no relationship with God.   Nonbelievers casually dismiss a genuine relationship with God labeling it as "fantasy", "fairytales", "hocus pocus" and continue on with no genuine, personal experience in this regard.    I'm told 25-50 times a week how stupid I am because of my beliefs and how my postion demands proof.  You know what?  I agree my position requires proof.  The best proof is in the divine pudding LOL.   You want to understand God? Then desire to know him, call on him with an open, honest heart and close the evidential gap.....see if he doesn't respond.  I've been with and without belief....most have just been without.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #138 on: August 20, 2012, 02:42:43 PM »
Not at all.  If you've followed my posts in this thread, you'll see I've irked the "God haters" more than the "God lovers."  I thought Fortress had a good post because it objected to "religion" (i.e. Christianity) on important and relevant grounds (i.e. the effects of Christianity on human development as a whole), not the usual "LOLZ CAN'T BELIEVE U BELIEF IN FAERY TAILZ" cacophony, which is usually spewed by people with the exact same intelligence as your average Christian, who would undoubtedly be Christians had they been born two hundred years ago.

Sorry I don't get a chance to follow everyone's posts....it's usually 10 on 1 in these threads.  Not everyone that doesn't belief responds as such, but as I mentioned most do....that's all I meant by the post.  

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #139 on: August 20, 2012, 02:53:21 PM »
call on him with an open, honest heart and close the evidential gap....

I tried to call him, fucker hung up on me after I said I fucked his mom. :|

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #140 on: August 20, 2012, 02:57:12 PM »
Look bro, it's an emotional choice. You want to feel as if you've got an omnipotent father figure watching after you, fine, it's your predicament. You want to belong to a tradition that is hundreds of years old and share a feeling of kinship with other like-minded people, that's fine too, humans have an innate sense to belong... the rest of it is a big old hocus pocus voodoo old wives' tale from a very long and extremely gruesome period in the history of the species... this is how people coped back then, do you understand? Religion is evolutionary buggage, it's not needed anymore, which is why in every nation (apart from America and maybe Ireland) where the standard of living goes up, faith goes down.
Maybe there might be a coorrelation between the people who worked hard/had a great ethic and believed in GOD, and then when they get the desired result, they or their children want to sit back, enjoy everything, and like spoiled brats, don't want give "big ups" to God---because it takes the attention away from them?

America is home to the "self made" God---gods in their own minds, "move out my way haterz, cause I'm coming thru!"
who is going to believe in GOD, when that just takes too much time and takes too much attention away from themselves? Kinds like how obese people dot want to put in the time and work to lose the weight, and change their eating habits, they want to lose the weight now, and eat whatever they want.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #141 on: August 20, 2012, 02:59:41 PM »
if you believe in the "BIG BOOM" theory, you're already a god within your own rights.... ;)

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #142 on: August 20, 2012, 03:03:00 PM »
for the people who believe in  life after death, when was the last time your dead loved ones contacted you, or have they updated you about how much fun they're having in heaven/hell or where the fuck ever they are?....I'm curious to know

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #143 on: August 20, 2012, 03:22:12 PM »
for the people who believe in  life after death, when was the last time your dead loved ones contacted you, or have they updated you about how much fun they're having in heaven/hell or where the fuck ever they are?....I'm curious to know
How many people have risen form nothing? Where were you here beforee the year you were born? Nowhere? You sprang form nothing? Rebirth for life is as certain as death is so long as there is a species. Get it retard?

Our ego may die but life goes on. If you don''t see this oging on as we speak you're a fucking moron. It's called the cycle of life.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #144 on: August 20, 2012, 04:05:46 PM »
Look bro, it's an emotional choice. You want to feel as if you've got an omnipotent father figure watching after you, fine, it's your predicament. You want to belong to a tradition that is hundreds of years old and share a feeling of kinship with other like-minded people, that's fine too, humans have an innate sense to belong... the rest of it is a big old hocus pocus voodoo old wives' tale from a very long and extremely gruesome period in the history of the species... this is how people coped back then, do you understand? Religion is evolutionary buggage, it's not needed anymore, which is why in every nation (apart from America and maybe Ireland) where the standard of living goes up, faith goes down.
funny, cause natality rates also go down there.

Fucking moron.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #145 on: August 20, 2012, 04:08:54 PM »
for the people who believe in  life after death, when was the last time your dead loved ones contacted you, or have they updated you about how much fun they're having in heaven/hell or where the fuck ever they are?....I'm curious to know
I had a cousin who as a child, was always seeing her "grandma"...
She would make statements like "Grandma is in the room, and she says hi"
thing is, she was born after "grandma" died.

But, I guess if you want to go talk and chill with your peeps for a while, just go and do what Edgar Cayce did---Deep Trance Meditation.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #146 on: August 20, 2012, 04:10:38 PM »
I had a cousin who as a child, was always seeing her "grandma"...
She would make statements like "Grandma is in the room, and she says hi"
thing is, she was born after "grandma" died.

But, I guess if you want to go talk and chill with your peeps for a while, just go and do what Edgar Cayce did---Deep Trance Meditation.

Cayce was an interesting fellow.

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #147 on: August 20, 2012, 05:00:38 PM »
The problem is that most nonbelievers know everything about God yet have no relationship with God.   Nonbelievers casually dismiss a genuine relationship with God labeling it as "fantasy", "fairytales", "hocus pocus" and continue on with no genuine, personal experience in this regard.    I'm told 25-50 times a week how stupid I am because of my beliefs and how my postion demands proof.  You know what?  I agree my position requires proof.  The best proof is in the divine pudding LOL.   You want to understand God? Then desire to know him, call on him with an open, honest heart and close the evidential gap.....see if he doesn't respond.  I've been with and without belief....most have just been without.

You have NO ' relationship ' with God. You just don't. everything you know or have ' learned ' about God is from someone else or a book. God doesn't talk to you or he hasn't revealed himself to you. You just can't expect to be taken seriously when you type this honestly

And blame the believer because he didn't try as hard as you or wasn't lucky enough to be blessed by God for a personal relationship. ::) weak very weak

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #148 on: August 20, 2012, 05:03:01 PM »
How many people have risen form nothing? Where were you here beforee the year you were born? Nowhere? You sprang form nothing? Rebirth for life is as certain as death is so long as there is a species. Get it retard?

Our ego may die but life goes on. If you don''t see this oging on as we speak you're a fucking moron. It's called the cycle of life.

you're citing lots of Poems....you still can't tell me where that life goes after you die.......are you aware of anything while you're sleeping?.......

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Re: In a world without a "GOD".
« Reply #149 on: August 20, 2012, 05:04:48 PM »
funny, cause natality rates also go down there.

Fucking moron.

Not sure what that has to do with anything.

You're excused though, theist  :-*