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« Reply #475 on: September 03, 2012, 04:28:58 AM » |
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can u imagine dorian doing arm poses next to this? LOL
it would be laughable.
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« Reply #476 on: September 03, 2012, 05:01:30 AM » |
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« Reply #477 on: September 03, 2012, 05:05:51 AM » |
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« Reply #478 on: September 03, 2012, 05:13:55 AM » |
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ND is desperately going through his old crusty bodybuilding mags to find a quote that can counter this one "In a show where everyone looked phenomenal, he was head and shoulders above them all...I could never dream of achieving that physique" Dorian Yates @ 1999 British Grand Prix"It's a made up quote and you bought hook line and sinker. I called him out on and needless to say he never responded. All the debates we've had all the time since this was supposedly made and it's never been posted until 2 weeks ago with no source what so ever  seriously In your desperation you needed anything to counter the multiple quotes from Ronnie saying he would never beat Dorian so you took this one on faith. Congrats you played yourself again. 
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« Reply #479 on: September 03, 2012, 05:32:30 AM » |
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because he hadn't peaked he never beat dorian.
or charles clairmonte for that matter LOL
but its all they can go on because the pics and vids clearly show how much better a peak ronnie was than dorian was at his peak.
Charlie had a far better physique than either.
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« Reply #480 on: September 03, 2012, 06:13:55 AM » |
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It's a made up quote and you bought hook line and sinker. I called him out on and needless to say he never responded. All the debates we've had all the time since this was supposedly made and it's never been posted until 2 weeks ago with no source what so ever seriously
In your desperation you needed anything to counter the multiple quotes from Ronnie saying he would never beat Dorian so you took this one on faith. Congrats you played yourself again. ^^^ 
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« Reply #481 on: September 03, 2012, 06:20:18 AM » |
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^^^
Look we all play the quote game and 99% of what we both post have a source or a reference. Neo get serious , you want this one to be true too much
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« Reply #482 on: September 03, 2012, 11:22:45 AM » |
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I was watching some old DVD's and caught this quote:
Dorian Yates was asked on the 2000 Mr. Olympia DVD:
Mike Mattarazo: "Do you see anybody up there you can compare yourself to muscle mass and muscular density?"
Dorian Yates: "Incredible muscle mass. Obviously Ronnie Coleman, the new Mr. Olympia. I mean, the guy is incredible. Muscle size, great conditioning, and proportions."
Dorian Yates: "Things are always progressing. People say to me, Dorian you are incredible, I've never seen a physique bigger and better. Hey, Of course you will. Things never stand still."
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« Reply #483 on: September 03, 2012, 11:50:11 AM » |
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I was watching some old DVD's and caught this quote:
Dorian Yates was asked on the 2000 Mr. Olympia DVD:
Mike Mattarazo: "Do you see anybody up there you can compare yourself to muscle mass and muscular density?"
Dorian Yates: "Incredible muscle mass. Obviously Ronnie Coleman, the new Mr. Olympia. I mean, the guy is incredible. Muscle size, great conditioning, and proportions."
Dorian Yates: "Things are always progressing. People say to me, Dorian you are incredible, I've never seen a physique bigger and better. Hey, Of course you will. Things never stand still."
That's been posted before
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« Reply #484 on: September 03, 2012, 12:45:56 PM » |
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That's been posted before
Yeah, by me.
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« Reply #485 on: September 03, 2012, 03:18:34 PM » |
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Phil heath "when we're talking about ronne and dorian.. I say Ronnie all day..ronnie .. if they competed against each other at their prime aww it would be OVER it would be done!" ND can we see the proof ronnie said that... dorian would win I WANT to see a video........ many thanks
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« Reply #486 on: September 03, 2012, 04:17:27 PM » |
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Phil heath "when we're talking about ronne and dorian.. I say Ronnie all day..ronnie .. if they competed against each other at their prime aww it would be OVER it would be done!" ND can we see the proof ronnie said that... dorian would win I WANT to see a video........ many thanks No video This quote is from 2007 on Special Ed's internet radio show when he interviewed Ronnie at the end of his career Special Ed : Ronnie if Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
And this one is from Flex magazine Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so. Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block. He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.
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« Reply #487 on: September 03, 2012, 04:51:07 PM » |
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hams, gutes, thighs outclassing yates, and wait ! i forget back  
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« Reply #488 on: September 03, 2012, 04:53:39 PM » |
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Trans Milkshake.
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« Reply #489 on: September 03, 2012, 05:01:41 PM » |
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« Reply #490 on: September 03, 2012, 05:03:57 PM » |
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No video This quote is from 2007 on Special Ed's internet radio show when he interviewed Ronnie at the end of his career Special Ed : Ronnie if Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
And this one is from Flex magazine Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so. Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block. He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.
This trumps what Phil says  I want to see a video so i can be sure coleman said EXACTLY that...... writers can stretch or exaggerate.... How can i be sure coleman said that?  ? Ive also read magazines where coleman saids he does full range of movement  essentially unless there is a video no be can be 100% sure coleman said it .. but we are 100% sure phil things coleman would blow yates away..... .... do not retort with a video..
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« Reply #491 on: September 03, 2012, 05:08:09 PM » |
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Anyone who takes what Phil Heath says as fact must be out of their mind.
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« Reply #492 on: September 03, 2012, 05:10:38 PM » |
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I want to see a video so i can be sure coleman said EXACTLY that...... writers can stretch or exaggerate.... How can i be sure coleman said that?  ? Ive also read magazines where coleman saids he does full range of movement  essentially unless there is a video no be can be 100% sure coleman said it .. but we are 100% sure phil things coleman would blow yates away..... .... do not retort with a video.. Who cares what you want? I know exactly Coleman said that on Special Ed's radio show because I was listening to it so were others on the board. So taken that into consideration it's safe to assume what he said in the magazine is accurate. Ernie Taylor said Dorian would beat Ronnie , Lee Priest did as well , etc , etc people have their opinions.
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« Reply #493 on: September 03, 2012, 05:11:41 PM » |
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« Reply #494 on: September 03, 2012, 05:13:34 PM » |
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Anyone who takes what Phil Heath says as fact must be out of their mind.
Nothing anyone says is fact, but Phil's word holds more weight than any of us.
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« Reply #495 on: September 03, 2012, 05:29:47 PM » |
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Nothing anyone says is fact, but Phil's word holds more weight than any of us.
even Flex said that ronnie is biggest, hardest and most complete bodybuilder who ever walked on stage.  
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« Reply #496 on: September 03, 2012, 06:08:12 PM » |
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Anyone who takes what Phil Heath says as fact must be out of their mind.
he is just stating his opnion ... possible the opinion of 90% of the bb community until I see a video of coleman saying dorian is better NDs quote is heresy
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« Reply #497 on: September 03, 2012, 06:21:42 PM » |
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I have no doubt ronnie said dorian would win had he competed in 98. why? because ronnie can see as much as any of us that dorian looked like pure shit from 1994 on and they gave him the win anyway no matter how bad shawn nasser et al owned him.. its a direct commetary on the judging, something ronnie was never shy of doing (see GNC show of Strength and the Gunter fiasco) the weiders wanted dynasties and thats what they created. dorian could have shown up 345 pounds and fat and they probably still would have had him beat all the 1998 competitors. had 99 ronnie stepped onstage in 1996/7, they still would have had dorian win..even though this is what would have happened: 
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« Reply #498 on: September 03, 2012, 06:22:27 PM » |
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 son amighty  ANyone who denies RONNIE ate other bodybuilders lunch, and they said thank you are dellusional. Most epic, horrifying overpowering physique ever. I remember watching MR0 on PPV, and you "sensed" everyone else was just happy to be there, because it was obvious he was "numero Uno". Im talking his prime years.
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« Reply #499 on: September 03, 2012, 06:24:35 PM » |
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