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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2012, 01:33:57 PM »
Quote from: The Abdominal Snoman on August 23, 2012, 01:21:12 PM
I don't disagree with what your saying but the Jones camp wants to stay on top for as long as possible. There's so much money for a guy like him outside the ring that it really doesn't make sense to have the thought of "I'll fight anyone at anytime"...
Maybe, but pissing of the president of the UFC is probably not a great career move either, when you are the first champion ever to turn down a fight, even on short notice, leading to an event being cancelled and big money lost leading to DANA labelling you "selfish" and "disgusting" you have pretty much assured that your career is over when you begin to lose.  The UFC doesn't need Jon Jones, but Jon Jones needs the UFC, I believe his decision was the worst career move any fighter could ever make, considering he probably could have beat Chael in about 30 seconds.
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2012, 01:34:38 PM »
Quote from: OneMoreRep on August 23, 2012, 01:30:58 PM
I think it would take any man more than a good 2-3 months to prepare for a fight with Chael.  Just his takedowns alone are difficult for anyone to stop.  Not to mention that the guy has solid ground and striking game, that's a headache for anyone.

That said, Jon Jones is not a brawler.  He fights based on a set game plan and is working with Jackson who is known to review all prior fights that a challenger might have available on tape.  Jackson isn't a cowboy and it seems that Jones has followed suit.

Jackson was right in that throwing Sonnen in the mix 8 days prior to showtime could have cost Jones his belt.  

Chael, on the other hand, can give two shits who they place in front of him, he is ready to fight at ALL times.  Win, lose or draw - Chael will fucking fight anyone in the UFC.

I respect Chael's character and approach in the Octagon.  He reminds me of the way Royce Gracie used to be in the original UFC's.  A true fighter isn't scared or worried about the lack of training involved for a particular fighter.

A true fighter is always ready to fight.

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You are right about Chael. But I wonder if he was holding the title would his attitude change. It's easy to have that attitude when your looking up at someone else holding the belt. He even said on Rogan broadcast that most of his shit is made up.
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jone
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2012, 01:35:58 PM »
Quote from: K-1 on August 23, 2012, 12:55:51 PM
Agree.

Not a good look for Mr. Jones at all.
Agree, why would he say no to Sonnen, Sonnen and Henderson are both Wrestlers, He would have trained similar in both cases.
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2012, 01:37:27 PM »
jones has just taken his first step out the door
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2012, 01:38:00 PM »
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2012, 01:47:54 PM »
Quote from: E-Kul on August 23, 2012, 01:17:28 PM
BS - Thats all fighting sports are - tough guy contests, you live and die by your reputation, guys who take on all-comers are way more respected (win or lose) than prissy arseholes like Jones

QUOTED FOR FUCKING TRUTH !!!
Jon Jones is a great MMA fighter (maybe the greatest) but at the same time is a SPOILED ARROGANT ASSHOLE just like Floyd Mayweather Jr. !!!
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2012, 01:48:21 PM »
Quote from: flipper5470 on August 23, 2012, 01:33:32 PM
I could see Jones not wanting the switch if there was a huge disparity in the styles that Henderson and Sonnen fight with...but there isn't.  They're both wrestlers...if anything, Sonnen is an easier fight because he's smaller and lacks the punching power that Henderson carries.

QFT

Plus:

   Henderson: 3 month training camp getting ready for Jones

   Sonnen: 3 day training camp getting ready for Jones
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2012, 01:52:33 PM »
And while we're at it...fuck Greg Jackson too...first chance he got he threw Rashad Evans under the bus to get Jones a title shot and now he plays a part in this fiasco?  Man...I sure do hope Machida kicks his ass.
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2012, 01:55:49 PM »
Quote from: flipper5470 on August 23, 2012, 01:52:33 PM
And while we're at it...fuck Greg Jackson too...first chance he got he threw Rashad Evans under the bus to get Jones a title shot and now he plays a part in this fiasco?  Man...I sure do hope Machida kicks his ass.

Dream my friend ! Machida is going to get destroyed by Jon Jones !!!
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2012, 02:00:31 PM »
Maybe, he did it once before even though Machida tagged him a time or two.  The worst thing an athlete can do is start believing the BS hype that surrounds them.  Jones seems to be heading  in that direction and is due..if not overdue..for an ass kicking.
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2012, 02:05:12 PM »
Jon Jones should be STRIPPED of his world belt champion and SUSPENDED for at least 6 months !!!
I hope Dana White will realize how bad this incident is and act with the most severity against Jon Jones.
People like Jon Jones are a CANCER for the sport of UFC just like Floyd Mayweather is CANCER for the sport of boxing !!!
COWARDINESS AND CHERRYPICKING SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED IN COMBAT SPORT !!!
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #36 on: August 23, 2012, 02:15:18 PM »
Joe Rogan's Reaction to JJ ducking Chael:

"Now the entire UFC card is scrapped because Jones didn't accept a fight with a 185lb'er who is completely out of shape. WOW. Just wow."

http://twitter.com/joerogan/status/238724342811353090
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2012, 02:20:01 PM »
Quote from: James on August 23, 2012, 02:15:18 PM
Joe Rogan's Reaction to JJ ducking Chael:

"Now the entire UFC card is scrapped because Jones didn't accept a fight with a 185lb'er who is completely out of shape. WOW. Just wow."

http://twitter.com/joerogan/status/238724342811353090

Big Joe Rogan should take that challenge by that out of shape 185lb'er
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2012, 02:20:12 PM »
Quote from: James on August 23, 2012, 02:15:18 PM
Joe Rogan's Reaction to JJ ducking Chael:

"Now the entire UFC card is scrapped because Jones didn't accept a fight with a 185lb'er who is completely out of shape. WOW. Just wow."

http://twitter.com/joerogan/status/238724342811353090
Joe is also losing a gig at mandaly because of the UFC cancellation Joe's Gig was cancelled also. Fuck Jon Jones
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2012, 02:28:52 PM »
Daniel Cormier:

"Wouldn't be surprised if we get a call from ufc begging me to go down and kick his ass after mir."

Daniel Cormier@dc_mma
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2012, 02:30:20 PM »
ultimate faggott challenge
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2012, 02:39:31 PM »
Quote from: James on August 23, 2012, 02:15:18 PM
Joe Rogan's Reaction to JJ ducking Chael:

"Now the entire UFC card is scrapped because Jones didn't accept a fight with a 185lb'er who is completely out of shape. WOW. Just wow."

http://twitter.com/joerogan/status/238724342811353090
Charlie Brenneman, a journeyman welterweight scheduled to fight Australia’s Kyle Noke in a preliminary card bout to be aired on Facebook, tweeted at Jones: “U can send my check to PO box 198. EH NJ. Rent is due the first, so preferably by then. Thanks.”
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2012, 02:41:39 PM »
Quote from: Nails on August 23, 2012, 12:06:50 PM
im sure brock will fight himself in the octogon again , and for cheap too






or they can get this dude to fight him, this guy is Jacked , he goes by DLB



Dude's got gyno.
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2012, 02:46:45 PM »
Greg Jackson should never be interviewed by anyone ever again...except by a psychiatrist.

Damn Dana was incensed. One thing thats for certain is that chaels stock rose pretty high with Lorenzo and Dana.

How would Nike react knowing that Jones didnt " just do it"?
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jone
« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2012, 02:48:42 PM »
I wish an IFBB/NPC competitor could tell Manion and Co. That they will not compete at a said event (like, "I'm skipping the O this yr.", "But, you are Mr. Olympia?", "So what, I am not doing it.")  or not guestpose at the last minute "Hey Kai, we need you to guestpose at _____, Phil Heath got sick.", "Sorry Manion, I can't. I'm in Brasil right now.", "But, you are under contract, and it would behoove you to do as I ask.", "Sorry, no can do.")
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2012, 03:03:07 PM »
why is the black guy fearful of the middleweight  ::)
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #46 on: August 23, 2012, 03:06:08 PM »
Quote from: Johnny Falcon on August 23, 2012, 03:03:07 PM
why is the black guy fearful of the middleweight  ::)
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #47 on: August 23, 2012, 03:16:41 PM »
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #48 on: August 23, 2012, 03:16:46 PM »
It's Jones' right to decline the fight, but now he must endure the backlash and face the consequences.  Good luck, fucking asshole.
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Re: UFC 151 - Cancelled! Machida was offered Jones. Said no. Chael offered Jones
« Reply #49 on: August 23, 2012, 03:18:22 PM »
some middle weights can beat you at basketball though, maybe thats what he was thinking about
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