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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #50 on: August 24, 2012, 12:04:11 PM »
Nike got his back


PORTLAND -- Nike is standing by Lance Armstrong after the U.S Anti-Doping Agency said it will strip his seven Tour de France titles and ban him from professional cycling.

In a statement released Friday the company said:

We are saddened that Lance Armstrong may no longer be able to participate in certain competitions and his titles appear to be impacted. Lance has stated his innocence and has been unwavering on this position. Nike plans to continue to support Lance and the Lance Armstrong Foundation, a foundation that Lance created to serve cancer survivors.

Armstrong, who retired last year, declined to enter USADA’s arbitration process—his last option—because he said he was weary of fighting accusations that have dogged him for years.

This will not end well for the USADA and Tygart....mark my words.

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #51 on: August 24, 2012, 12:05:26 PM »
where the fuck is nails with the flojo coverup?  why would they let flojo go, but take down jones and armstrong?

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #52 on: August 24, 2012, 12:06:46 PM »
Good.

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #53 on: August 24, 2012, 12:10:04 PM »
No hearing and no positive test (despite being the most-tested athlete in history).

I think the USADA needs to explain in great detail on what basis they came to their conclusion.


Ditto.

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #54 on: August 24, 2012, 12:10:13 PM »
This will not end well for the USADA and Tygart....mark my words.

I thought the exact same thing.  I listen to talk radio (sports/NPR) and the way that guy was talking about Lance on all of the interviews, he's a self righteous prick.  He almost reminds me of Goodell, it's his way or no way.  His logic is, if he isn't going to fight it, he must be guilty.  Guilty or not (which he probably is) it should not be handled that way.  Lance is a fucking sports hero for this country and does way more good with his cancer awareness than bad by a little doping, alledgedly.  I could see some higher ups ie congress, telling this Tygart guy to fuck off and give Lance back his titles.

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #55 on: August 24, 2012, 12:11:21 PM »
No doubt Lance cheated (still best despite being a smug asshole).  Flo-jo was a cheater too...still the best.
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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #56 on: August 24, 2012, 12:12:50 PM »
This will not end well for the USADA and Tygart....mark my words.


Nope....the Union Cycliste Internationale is pissed off at the USADA and is demanding answers and a lot of sponsors are threatening to pull their stakes from the ground.

Its a shitty situation because if Lance is stripped of his titles...then no one will bother competing anymore.  What good is it to win all the titles and pass every drug test when you can be stripped of it outright.  And no one can blame Lance for giving them the finger.  He spent 9 years fighting the charges in federal court and he won.  How much more money and time should someone spend???  I think after 9 years and 500 doping tests, they should just leave it alone.
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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #57 on: August 24, 2012, 12:13:52 PM »
He passed over 500 drug tests. Was he that good that he could beat all those tests? 

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #58 on: August 24, 2012, 12:15:58 PM »
He passed over 500 drug tests. Was he that good that he could beat all those tests?  

Yes.

Are you tell me that natural Lance is better than world class cheaters?  I think not. BUT they didn't prove it so nothing should be taken.  This country has turned into something else. :-X
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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #59 on: August 24, 2012, 12:18:56 PM »
No doubt Lance cheated (still best despite being a smug asshole).  Flo-jo was a cheater too...still the best.

Stripping medals and taking away wins is just PC BS.  Ben Johnson still won the '88 100 m gold and Joe Paterno still won all those football games.  USADA doesn't have the authority to take away anything, Lance still won the tour 7 times.  

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #60 on: August 24, 2012, 12:19:03 PM »
No doubt Lance cheated (still best despite being a smug asshole).  Flo-jo was a cheater too...still the best.

All the top racers cheated and abused. Lance was just the best responder and performer in the end.
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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #61 on: August 24, 2012, 12:21:56 PM »
Why wouldn't they  ??? they still cut a check out to an accused rapist  , who paid off a whore to not go to trial




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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #62 on: August 24, 2012, 12:22:50 PM »
  Flo-jo was a cheater too...still the best.

she changed her strides and pulled tires in the sand.  that was the difference. flo-jo!  :-*


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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #63 on: August 24, 2012, 12:23:17 PM »
Why wouldn't they  ??? they still cut a check out to an accused rapist  , who paid off a whore to not go to trial





Who, Ben or Kobe? ;D

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #64 on: August 24, 2012, 12:30:58 PM »
she changed her strides and pulled tires in the sand.  that was the difference. flo-jo!  :-*



Hahahahahahhhahahhaha... .Bro, you don't make the improvements in time she made in that short period of time unless you're on something..
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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #65 on: August 24, 2012, 12:36:20 PM »
All the top racers cheated and abused. Lance was just the best responder and performer in the end.

Is taxpayer money being used by the USADA to pursue this "case"?

Anyone know?

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #66 on: August 24, 2012, 12:41:37 PM »
He passed over 500 drug tests. Was he that good that he could beat all those tests?  

he played the system - and won.

He's just above this bullshit now - he spent a decade passing every test they threw at him - while others around him were caught.

he was smart enough to get away with it.  

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #67 on: August 24, 2012, 12:48:26 PM »
What good is it to win all the titles and pass every drug test when you can be stripped of it outright.

Yes very good point Vince.

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #68 on: August 24, 2012, 12:49:16 PM »
he played the system - and won.
He's just above this bullshit now - he spent a decade passing every test they threw at him - while others around him were caught.
he was smart enough to get away with it.  

He was randomly tested 63 times, in one year. "Randomly" as in, "knock-knock, I know you're eating dinner right now Mr Armstrong, but we need you to piss in this cup right now" - and "ring-ring, where are you right now, Mr Armstrong, we need blood samples immediately"

Sixty three times. Not a single sample came back positive. The French tried and tried. It got to the point that he didn't trust his samples out of his sight. All had "B" samples that were tested as well. WTF else do they want?! If he cheated, he apparently knew ways to mask the samples and avoid detection that no one else knew?!

Come on! I believe cycling to be as strife with cheating as any other endurance or strength related sport. But if you pass, you pass.....don't dig up ten "witnesses", ten plus years later and say "you're guilty of a sport we don't even control, and oh yeah....thanks American tax payers for funding this!"

I'd be done with it, too. Ask those "witnesses" that were his team mates if they're willing to pay back the portion of the winnings that Lance gave them.....since you know, he didn't win legitimately, and he's being stripped.

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #69 on: August 24, 2012, 12:55:38 PM »
No hearing and no positive test (despite being the most-tested athlete in history).

I think the USADA needs to explain in great detail on what basis they came to their conclusion.


"Most tested" is something Lance made up. And the 500-600 tests number can't be verified.
I think he has done like 200.

Lance failed for corticos once. Tested positive for EPO in France.

USADA explaining is something Lance does NOT want. That's why he didn't fight the accusations.
He's hoping they don't release evidence.

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Re: Nike stands by Lance Armstrong as well as ALL OF HIS SPONSORS
« Reply #70 on: August 24, 2012, 12:58:50 PM »
Hahahahahahhhahahhaha....Bro, you don't make the improvements in time she made in that short period of time unless you're on something..

i'm not going to let you drag flo-jo's name in the dirt with those other douchebags. 

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #71 on: August 24, 2012, 01:02:41 PM »
"Most tested" is something Lance made up. And the 500-600 tests number can't be verified.
I think he has done like 200.

Lance failed for corticos once. Tested positive for EPO in France.

USADA explaining is something Lance does NOT want. That's why he didn't fight the accusations.
He's hoping they don't release evidence.

Ohhh.....Lance "made up" 500, but the great Van_Bilderass of Getbig "thinks" it's actually 200. So the number MUST be 200. You sir are a fucking idiot.

How the fuck do you even begin to presume what Lance Armstrong is thinking? Why should he fight "accusations" from known cheats and liars like Floyd Landis and Tyler Hamilton?

FUCK OFF with accusations - show real evidence - failed tests.....or the USADA can get the fuck out. This is a witch hunt that is using taxpayer money to fund it. The USADA does not even have the authority to strip LA of his TDF titles. For fuck's sake - last time I checked there is still a Constitution and legal rights in America. LA should sue Tygart, Landis and Hamilton personally for every penny his foundation loses because of this.

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2012, 01:04:55 PM »
"Most tested" is something Lance made up. And the 500-600 tests number can't be verified.
I think he has done like 200.

Lance failed for corticos once. Tested positive for EPO in France.

USADA explaining is something Lance does NOT want. That's why he didn't fight the accusations.
He's hoping they don't release evidence.

Which steroids did he use?

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2012, 01:10:55 PM »
Which steroids did he use?

None.....the 2001 drug test for EPO that LA supposedly failed is only an accusation by Tyler Hamilton.

Hamilton claims the UCI, Armstrong, and the head of the testing agency lab all conspired together to hide the failed test. Hamilton says he reported it to the FBI.

For fuck's fucking sake.......

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Re: Drug addict Lance Armstrong losing all his titles vs USADA
« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2012, 01:11:45 PM »
USADA is also claiming they have 10 of Lance's former teamates ready to testify against him. Who knows what evidence they really have.