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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #125 on: August 27, 2012, 07:11:29 AM »
choice is an illusion

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #126 on: August 27, 2012, 07:13:06 AM »
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and that is 96 coleman.. nowhere near 98

also i hear people throwing around weight.... how much does dorian outweigh coleman by in that pic....
tell me because I cant tell.... by looking....
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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #127 on: August 27, 2012, 07:14:09 AM »
Dorian was 260 in 96.  I don't know how much Ronnie weighed that year. Do you?
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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #128 on: August 27, 2012, 07:15:14 AM »


lol, and there are people who dare to compare philsuline head with big ron

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #129 on: August 27, 2012, 07:15:25 AM »
your opinion.
yaates had a very similar structure to fux....
you do the math

I alway thought Yates had a similar structure to Haney.  

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #130 on: August 27, 2012, 07:28:07 AM »
Dorian was 260 in 96.  I don't know how much Ronnie weighed that year. Do you?
no but what im saying is I can tell from that pic because he isnt out massing coleman there... nor does he have a better shape in that pic....
yates was highly overated IMO....
like brian dobson said in one of ronnie vids, he went to many shows where ronnie should have placed higher, but he just had to pay his dues and plug it out.
was ronnie 6th in 96... well hes owing mr O there
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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #131 on: August 27, 2012, 07:31:44 AM »
Ronnie's upper body was better than Dorian from 96 on.
His total body was better than Dorian's 98 on.
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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #133 on: August 27, 2012, 07:32:26 AM »
For fuck sake

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #134 on: August 27, 2012, 07:34:37 AM »
For fuck sake

i know yates already said ronnie was better over the long haul, so what's the debate about?  also, ronnie took risks like the arnold and gnc while yates ran back to london after each O win.   

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #135 on: August 27, 2012, 07:36:40 AM »
your opinion.
yaates had a very similar structure to fux....
you do the math

Similar, but not the same.




there is even a better one


Sorry, but Dorian is winning that shot.

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #136 on: August 27, 2012, 07:41:39 AM »
i know yates already said ronnie was better over the long haul, so what's the debate about?  also, ronnie took risks like the arnold and gnc while yates ran back to london after each O win.   

Yates said that?  link please?
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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #137 on: August 27, 2012, 07:42:52 AM »
Similar, but not the same.

Sorry, but Dorian is winning that shot.

No he's not.
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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #138 on: August 27, 2012, 07:43:18 AM »
i know yates already said ronnie was better over the long haul, so what's the debate about?  also, ronnie took risks like the arnold and gnc while yates ran back to london after each O win.   

Competing at the GNC against Gunter wouldn't have been a risk for Dorian.  

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #139 on: August 27, 2012, 07:50:23 AM »
No he's not.
yes he is big time, he looks like a granite statue with a near perfect structure. Ronnie looks very odd there, no flow

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #140 on: August 27, 2012, 07:51:46 AM »
No he's not.

Yes he is, much better conditioning and a better structure.
Please explain why you think Ronnie wins the shot.

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #141 on: August 27, 2012, 07:51:57 AM »
yes he is big time, he looks like a granite statue with a near perfect structure. Ronnie looks very odd there, no flow


Hahhahahhhahhahahahhahha  Yates, near perfect stucture and Ronnie no flow...I will no longer take anything you say seriously.
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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #142 on: August 27, 2012, 07:53:28 AM »
Thong Wars

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #143 on: August 27, 2012, 07:56:42 AM »
Yes he is, much better conditioning and a better structure.
Please explain why you think Ronnie wins the shot.

Presentation of his back in that shot, more separtion and development of the smaller back muscles.  Dorian is dense as fuck no doubt but Ronnie s dense with more separation and better structure in that shot.
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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #144 on: August 27, 2012, 07:57:01 AM »


yates is a bit wide and blocky like cutler but ronnie's back is thicker.  anyway, that's full-blown career bbing Yates vs FT job working Ronnie.  ;D  

over the long haul, ronnie was better. your lord, Yates, said this, so there is no debate.  

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #145 on: August 27, 2012, 08:02:31 AM »
Presentation of his back in that shot, more separtion and development of the smaller back muscles.  Dorian is dense as fuck no doubt but Ronnie s dense with more separation and better structure in that shot.

Dorian is killing Ronnie there as far as conditioning goes, which allows him to show better separation in the back and leg muscles. How can Ronnie have better separation with his inferior conditioning?
And Ronnie a better structure? Please explain.
Dorian is wider and has a near perfect structure in that shot.

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #146 on: August 27, 2012, 08:03:20 AM »
Yates is winning the pose...

Far far drier, squarer shoulders, more seperation, just structurally far better from behind.

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #147 on: August 27, 2012, 08:05:15 AM »
Presentation of his back in that shot, more separtion and development of the smaller back muscles.  Dorian is dense as fuck no doubt but Ronnie s dense with more separation and better structure in that shot.
No where near Dorian's density though

Bro Ronnie has got a crappy structure, it is more evident now then ever, watch him walking around the shows and you can see it for yourself, of course this can be camouflaged with a lot of muscle, but in that particular shot he looks very wierd

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #148 on: August 27, 2012, 08:06:24 AM »
Yates is winning the pose...

Far far drier, squarer shoulders, more seperation, just structurally far better from behind.


Exactly and way deeper lines

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Re: Phil Heath Exclusive Interview with VNM-TV: Coleman or Yates? GH15??
« Reply #149 on: August 27, 2012, 08:12:52 AM »
can you imagine the size of yates if he was as soft as rhonnie there?,, he'd be about 20lbs heavier at least, thats what you peoples forget about !!!!!!!