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« on: August 25, 2012, 04:57:21 AM »



Hi,

I just started doing my own TRT like 1 week ago (3 shots 175 mg Test E and 150 Deca each shot -day 1, 4 and 7) and I got a call from my endo who wanted me to come in to review test results. Now the reason I started my own was i didn't think I was going to be hearing back from this Dr and I needed to start with the Deca for joint lube assistance. I did 3 shots of my own UGL compounds on Thursday, Sunday and the next Thursday (yesterday). I go to her office today after not hearing from her for a month after my blood test - I assumed I tested too high for TRT. I was wrong. She put me on 200 mg Test Cyp 1 x every 14 days - she gave me the 1st shot today. She wants me back in in 7 days for blood work to see where my levels are 1 week after the test cyp shot (she does NOT know about my own program 3 shots of test / deca).

What is my best bet to test as low as possible in a week? I know i will stop my own UGL test but I'm thinking I should continue my deca - maybe even up it to 2 cc this week since that shuts you down - i just don't know if that will make my test look higher instead of lower for the test? I also have any of the following I can use to lower my test / minimize the 3 shots I gave myself - that's what I'm asking - is there anything I can do to minimize the positive effect on my own Test E and Deca shots on the outcome of this test I'm going in for in a week?  She wants to measure my levels 1 week after the shot to see where I am to adjust up or down - I want MORE of the pharm grade stuff!

I have deca/ test prop/ clomid /adex /novolex/ HCG. I'm wondering what i can do to get my artificial levels down in time for the test next week - can I use any of these. I Only did the 3 shots spread out over a week - I couldn't imagine that would raise my level much if @ all for the test in 7 days.

Would my best bet be to put off the test for a couple weeks (22 days after my last UGL Test E shot )and stop the Test E and continue with the Deca

Let me know - I really want to be on weekly shots - more RX grade test.


From the info I have found out there I'm reading that Deca is a different compound and will NOT increase my Test levels in a blood test. The big thing is waiting till the test e clears my system so all there is to measure is the test Cyp (200 mg) shot she has perscribed.    I'd like to just cruize on thru without stopping the deca.

Thx for your input.

RS
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2012, 03:22:38 PM »


Hi,

I just started doing my own TRT like 1 week ago (3 shots 175 mg Test E and 150 Deca each shot -day 1, 4 and 7) and I got a call from my endo who wanted me to come in to review test results. Now the reason I started my own was i didn't think I was going to be hearing back from this Dr and I needed to start with the Deca for joint lube assistance. I did 3 shots of my own UGL compounds on Thursday, Sunday and the next Thursday (yesterday). I go to her office today after not hearing from her for a month after my blood test - I assumed I tested too high for TRT. I was wrong. She put me on 200 mg Test Cyp 1 x every 14 days - she gave me the 1st shot today. She wants me back in in 7 days for blood work to see where my levels are 1 week after the test cyp shot (she does NOT know about my own program 3 shots of test / deca).

What is my best bet to test as low as possible in a week? I know i will stop my own UGL test but I'm thinking I should continue my deca - maybe even up it to 2 cc this week since that shuts you down - i just don't know if that will make my test look higher instead of lower for the test? I also have any of the following I can use to lower my test / minimize the 3 shots I gave myself - that's what I'm asking - is there anything I can do to minimize the positive effect on my own Test E and Deca shots on the outcome of this test I'm going in for in a week?  She wants to measure my levels 1 week after the shot to see where I am to adjust up or down - I want MORE of the pharm grade stuff!

I have deca/ test prop/ clomid /adex /novolex/ HCG. I'm wondering what i can do to get my artificial levels down in time for the test next week - can I use any of these. I Only did the 3 shots spread out over a week - I couldn't imagine that would raise my level much if @ all for the test in 7 days.

Would my best bet be to put off the test for a couple weeks (22 days after my last UGL Test E shot )and stop the Test E and continue with the Deca

Let me know - I really want to be on weekly shots - more RX grade test.


From the info I have found out there I'm reading that Deca is a different compound and will NOT increase my Test levels in a blood test. The big thing is waiting till the test e clears my system so all there is to measure is the test Cyp (200 mg) shot she has perscribed.    I'd like to just cruize on thru without stopping the deca.

Thx for your input.

RS

In my opinion,
take the bottle of test with you and ask her to go over the HIPAA act with you ( basically she cant disclose any information about you to anyone). Once she goes over that, show her the bottle of your UGL, and tell her the truth, that it took her one month to get back at you, and even she agreed that you needed testosterone, but she was a bit too late. Say the effect of low T were ruining your life and you were miserable blah blah blah, and you decided to start your own injections prior to her giving you TRT.

so ask her if its possible that she can test you after the 2nd dose she gives you.

in that time, all teh test and deca you shot should be out of your system, and all you have in you will be the TRT
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2012, 03:30:38 PM »

Thx man!   that is a very good idea.
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2012, 03:41:22 PM »

Thx man!   that is a very good idea.
no problem, keep us updated.. also if she ever writes the prescription for you and you pick up the test yourself, instead of injecting 200mg every 14days, do 100mg every week
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 05:06:22 PM »

So how badly (too much test in my system) will my 3 shots of test E affect the test the dr wants me to take 8 days after the 200 mg test cyp shot that she gave me? Would it put my numbers way out there or would it just raise my level like 50 points or something minor like that?

I know some of you guys have experience with this  - let me know what you think.  I'm entertaining the thought of going and taking the blood test on friday (1 week after the dr's shot) hoping it doesn't come in too high.  And if it does I can tell her about the program that I started a little early.

 The other option I have is wait 2 more weeks till 1 week post 2nd test cyp perscription shot - which would be 22 days after my last UGL test E shots.

Thx, RS
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2012, 04:47:52 AM »

So how badly (too much test in my system) will my 3 shots of test E affect the test the dr wants me to take 8 days after the 200 mg test cyp shot that she gave me? Would it put my numbers way out there or would it just raise my level like 50 points or something minor like that?

I know some of you guys have experience with this  - let me know what you think.  I'm entertaining the thought of going and taking the blood test on friday (1 week after the dr's shot) hoping it doesn't come in too high.  And if it does I can tell her about the program that I started a little early.

 The other option I have is wait 2 more weeks till 1 week post 2nd test cyp perscription shot - which would be 22 days after my last UGL test E shots.

Thx, RS

Do the bolded option.

I think if you get your blood test done on the 8th day, your test levels will be between 1000-1400 .

from my experience and people o i know, 175mg test e weekly will put you around 1300-1500 range, but it all depends on the UGL.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2012, 05:13:13 PM »

Do the bolded option.

I think if you get your blood test done on the 8th day, your test levels will be between 1000-1400 .

from my experience and people o i know, 175mg test e weekly will put you around 1300-1500 range, but it all depends on the UGL.

Mario,
 
So would you say I should do the 2nd cyp shot or should I just skip it?  I'm scheduled to take that shot 14days after the 1st cyp shot - 7 days before the blood test if I ship the 1st apt.  That may drive it too low - maybe I should do 1/2 cc / 100 mg instead of the whole 200.  I wouldn't want the test to come back too low.


Thx man.  RS
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2012, 07:17:38 PM »

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Do 100mg or 1/2CC. If you totally skip it, teh doc will know. take half the dose, your test levels will be levated enough for teh doc to know you took it, but it wouldnt be too elevated to cause concern
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2012, 10:29:43 AM »

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Do 100mg or 1/2CC. If you totally skip it, teh doc will know. take half the dose, your test levels will be levated enough for teh doc to know you took it, but it wouldnt be too elevated to cause concern
var a day

Ok that's what I did.  Put off the test for 14 days. I'm going to run 100 mg test prop EOD for this week and stop that 9 days prior to the test.  In addition, instead of pinning a full cc, I'll go with 1/2cc - 1/2 dose then give it 8 days w nothing but 150 var/ day and stop that 2 days prior to the test. I'm sure it will come in about 400 or so.  What I'm shooting for is 200 mg test cyp / week. I just want ot get into that 1000 -1300 range and start feeln good. I'm also cruizin on 150 mg deca a week.  That will not show up in the test as testosterone. . These is this awesome chart from another site that shows how the levels work out pinning @ different intervals and different amounts.  I arrived @ that 400 # off this chanrt keeping in mind the 1/2 lives of my Test Enth/prop and rx Cyp shots.

Damn Chart is hard to read after I copy/paste it here.  I tried to attach it as a word doc but this damn site won't allow that.

RS

QUICK DISCLAIMER: Please assume this is not going to be accurate for everyone. I'm sure there are variables that can't be accounted for. I made this to see ballpark figures with the information I have

Hope someone finds it helpful!
Mg    TT ng/dl    Ratio         7 day half life (ng/dl)    
25    253    10.12         126.5    
50    306    6.12         153    
100    449.4    4.94         224.7    (my guess)
125    542    4.336         271    
200    881.9    4.4095         440.95    (my guess)
300    1345    4.483         672.5    
600    2370    3.95         1185    
Weekly Regiment 50 mg    306    ng/dl                                       
Week    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9    10
1    306    153    77    38    19    10    5    2    1    1
2         306    153    77    38    19    10    5    2    1
3              306    153    77    38    19    10    5    2
4                   306    153    77    38    19    10    5
5                        306    153    77    38    19    10
6                             306    153    77    38    19
7                                  306    153    77    38
8                                       306    153    77
9                                            306    153
10                                                 306
TT Pre Injection :    0    153    230    268    287    296    301    304    305    305
TT Post Injection :    306    459    536    574    593    602    607    610    611    611
                                                  
Weekly Regiment 100 mg    450    ng/dl                                       
Week    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9    10
1    450    225    113    56    28    14    7    4    2    1
2         450    225    113    56    28    14    7    4    2
3              450    225    113    56    28    14    7    4
4                   450    225    113    56    28    14    7
5                        450    225    113    56    28    14
6                             450    225    113    56    28
7                                  450    225    113    56
8                                       450    225    113
9                                            450    225
10                                                 450
TT Pre Injection :    0    225    338    394    422    436    443    446    448    449
TT Post Injection :    450    675    788    844    872    886    893    896    898    899
                                                  
Weekly Regiment 125 mg    542    ng/dl                                       
Week    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9    10
1    542    271    136    68    34    17    8    4    2    1
2         542    271    136    68    34    17    8    4    2
3              542    271    136    68    34    17    8    4
4                   542    271    136    68    34    17    8
5                        542    271    136    68    34    17
6                             542    271    136    68    34
7                                  542    271    136    68
8                                       542    271    136
9                                            542    271
10                                                 542
TT Pre Injection :    0    271    407    474    508    525    534    538    540    541
TT Post Injection :    542    813    949    1016    1050    1067    1076    1080    1082    1083
                                                  
2 Week Regiment 200 mg    882    ng/dl                                       
Week    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9    10
1    882    441    221    110    55    28    14    7    3    2
2                                                 
3              882    441    221    110    55    28    14    7
4                                                 
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6                                                 
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8                                                 
9                                            882    441
10                                                 
TT Pre Injection :    0    441    221    551    276    579    289    586    293    587
TT Post Injection :    882    441    1103    551    1158    579    1171    586    1175    587
                                                  
3 Week Regiment 100 mg    450    ng/dl                                       
Week    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9    10
1    450    225    113    56    28    14    7    4    2    1
2                                                 
3                                                 
4                   450    225    113    56    28    14    7
5                                                 
6                                                 
7                                  450    225    113    56
8                                                 
9                                                 
10                                                 450
TT Pre Injection :    0    225    113    56    253    127    63    257    128    64
TT Post Injection :    450    225    113    506    253    127    513    257    128    514
                                                  
3 Week Regiment 125 mg    542    ng/dl                                       
Week    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9    10
1    542    271    136    68    34    17    8    4    2    1
2                                                 
3                                                 
4                   542    271    136    68    34    17    8
5                                                 
6                                                 
7                                  542    271    136    68
8                                                 
9                                                 
10                                                 542
TT Pre Injection :    0    271    136    68    305    152    76    309    155    77
TT Post Injection :    542    271    136    610    305    152    618    309    155    619
                                                  
Weekly Regiment 200 mg    882    ng/dl                                       
Week    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9    10
1    882    441    221    110    55    28    14    7    3    2
2         882    441    221    110    55    28    14    7    3
3              882    441    221    110    55    28    14    7
4                   882    441    221    110    55    28    14
5                        882    441    221    110    55    28
6                             882    441    221    110    55
7                                  882    441    221    110
8                                       882    441    221
9                                            882    441
10                                                 882
TT Pre Injection :    0    441    662    772    827    854    868    875    879    880
TT Post Injection :    882    1323    1544    1654    1709    1736    1750    1757    1761    1762
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2012, 03:47:36 PM »

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i disagree with teh chart, it seems to be wayy off.  i know for a fact ( my own blood work) that 125mg-175mg a week of test E will put your test levels at 1100-1300. According to the chart 300mg/week will put you in that range.

i have tried it with UGLs and Legit human grade test
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 04:26:55 PM »

Yea - there was a disclaimer on the site saying everyone is different in regards to how they metabolize test and how quickly or slowly their levels drop.  So many factors involved.
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2012, 12:53:25 PM »

Well my little plan worked. I put off the test for 2weeks and went to test prop EOD until 7 days pre teast. then I used gwl for 2days along with 150 mg  ed anavar just to make sure I wasnt producing any of my own. My test level came back @ 745. Now got 3 months till the next bloods. Im blqsting now @750 EW Sustanon and 300 mg deca EW.  I have another plan to come in low for the next test in order to get my script adjusted up to  200 mg cyp EW up from EOW.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2012, 08:23:09 PM »

no problem, keep us updated.. also if she ever writes the prescription for you and you pick up the test yourself, instead of injecting 200mg every 14days, do 100mg every week
this^. there is a diff when you keep the levels level. no up and down yo-yo shit. to make my levels seem low i also did my blood work 3 days after i should have taken a shot (which i didnt do on purpose) and i was a little low (lower than the low end).
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2012, 07:24:39 AM »

this^. there is a diff when you keep the levels level. no up and down yo-yo shit. to make my levels seem low i also did my blood work 3 days after i should have taken a shot (which i didnt do on purpose) and i was a little low (lower than the low end).

How did that workout for you  - did your endo up your dose?
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