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derrock

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Re: stunted growth
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2005, 09:48:21 AM »
sorry i lost my temper, i know your right i know your just trying to help.  i will try to stay off for a couple more years   but the temptation is always there

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Re: stunted growth
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2005, 10:05:35 AM »

two years is nothing in this game dude...you should wait until you are mid 20's
and have at least 5-6(or more) years of good consistant training/dieting
before you consider AAS.

don't bite the hand that feeds you, the guys on this board
are trying to help you and they have been in your shoes before.

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Great point Overload (the emphasis) mid or late 20s (with exceptions) - but more when
natural hormones decline and when the subject HAS a foundation to build on . . .

No time or room to appropriately address the actual diet . . .
(apart from (inordinately) short period of training . . .)

Even with the practical experience (knowledge)
I am challenged to eat enough food - clean diet
NOT a problem (for me).

Another note (especially) common to younger generation IS
unfortunately, A L C O H O L use - which interferes
with metabolism and muscle development.
EG Drinking beer and worrying about slimming down
or *dieting off a little extra body fat* - DA!

No ivory tower here - I L O V E big red wines (and scotch)
but must (try and) avoid when on my program,
as well as day to day off cycle . . .

A BIG commitment to be a real body builder
much to learn and (at times) too many sacrifices
for most - thus the leaning to shorts cuts . . .
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Re: stunted growth
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2005, 12:58:26 PM »
I L O V E big red winesbut must (try and) avoid when on my program,
as well as day to day off cycle . .

Red Wines are heart healthy in moderation.

You can drink those with dinner.





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Re: stunted growth
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2005, 03:37:00 PM »
- - OFF thread TOPIC - -

Sadly DIV  :(

The !O N L Y! damn thing
that will put crud around
my mid section
IS WINE.

Beer IS OFF LIMITS . . .
(what I was reffering to in thread)

I will *carb offset* with wine
in some meals - you know
hearty meat - no starchy
carbs - fiberous veggies.

Yes reasonably amounts.
But IS  T O O  much like
fine (dark) chocolates.
Hard to stop - taste too good  ;D

I am not a total stick in the mud.
But have screwed my BM up at points
with G O O D red wines.
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Re: stunted growth
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2005, 05:13:42 PM »
tyson giving ppl advice these days  ???

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Re: stunted growth
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2005, 06:33:18 PM »
- - OFF thread TOPIC - -

Sadly DIV  :(

The !O N L Y! damn thing
that will put crud around
my mid section
IS WINE.

Beer IS OFF LIMITS . . .
(what I was reffering to in thread)

I will *carb offset* with wine
in some meals - you know
hearty meat - no starchy
carbs - fiberous veggies.

Yes reasonably amounts.
But IS  T O O  much like
fine (dark) chocolates.
Hard to stop - taste too good  ;D

I am not a total stick in the mud.
But have screwed my BM up at points
with G O O D red wines.

Did you get my PM?





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