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« on: August 28, 2012, 05:36:16 AM » |
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i'm thinking that optimum is most likely 3 or 4 days per week
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 05:45:46 AM » |
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I'm not sure what you mean by train.
I lift weights 2-3 times per week.
I run 6-7 days per week.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 05:51:07 AM » |
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I'm not sure what you mean by train.
I lift weights 2-3 times per week.
I run 6-7 days per week.
sorry man, i meant weight training i used to be a cross-country runner so i know a bit about running, although i haven't run in awhile... too scared to lose mass i guess  so how far do you run? how many miles are you putting in per week? also, do you do intervals, fartlek, LSD, AT runs?
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 05:56:49 AM » |
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sorry man, i meant weight training i used to be a cross-country runner so i know a bit about running, although i haven't run in awhile... too scared to lose mass i guess  so how far do you run? how many miles are you putting in per week? also, do you do intervals, fartlek, LSD, AT runs? I run about twenty miles a week. I'm 36 years old. Not too worried about being massive. More interested in staying lean and maintaining muscle. I just run about 8 minute miles. If I lift, I run a shorter distance. I don't enjoy running a whole lot, but it's the most effective cardio for me. I'm pretty busy during the day and don't want to spend a lot of time on a bike.
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 06:09:43 AM » |
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I run about twenty miles a week.
I'm 36 years old. Not too worried about being massive.
More interested in staying lean and maintaining muscle.
I just run about 8 minute miles. If I lift, I run a shorter distance.
I don't enjoy running a whole lot, but it's the most effective cardio for me. I'm pretty busy during the day and don't want to spend a lot of time on a bike.
good stuff man 20 miles per week, and maybe even up to 25 miles per week, is about right IMO i remember reading somewhere that after about 30-35 miles per week test levels start to drop
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 06:38:32 AM » |
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i'm thinking that optimum is most likely 3 or 4 days per week
i think it depends on your "intensity". Train hard and rest. Now if you train each muscle 2x a week then you have to cut down on sets and "intensity" which i think is bad. You have to remember when you train muscle groups there is always overlap..so muscles are trained more often than you think...direct and indirect.
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 06:54:50 AM » |
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i think it depends on your "intensity". Train hard and rest. Now if you train each muscle 2x a week then you have to cut down on sets and "intensity" which i think is bad. You have to remember when you train muscle groups there is always overlap..so muscles are trained more often than you think...direct and indirect.
agreed plus this idea/concept of "systemic recovery" comes into play... i'm not a fan of this idea/concept  and i try to deny that it's real, but it is real and it does exist
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 10:49:17 AM » |
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i'm thinking that optimum is most likely 3 or 4 days per week
3 to 4 days is all any regular trainer needs or can tolerate with decent intensity.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2012, 11:03:39 AM » |
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3 to 4 days is all any regular trainer needs or can tolerate with decent intensity.
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2012, 11:07:41 AM » |
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3 to 4 days is all any regular trainer needs or can tolerate with decent intensity.
that seems to be true, but my problem is that i've got some addictive issues, so i either train nearly every goddamn day or not at all it seems that i've gotta learn how to "harness" my drive/desire 
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2012, 03:32:54 PM » |
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3 with weights, but i train every day for cardio
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2012, 05:58:03 AM » |
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I train 4-5 days a week.
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2012, 06:01:06 AM » |
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I train 4-5 days a week.
yes that is spot on
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2012, 10:13:04 AM » |
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3 or 4 days
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2012, 12:16:13 PM » |
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Twice a week. Monday & Thursday, usually.
Monday: Hi pulls, one arm DB Hi-pulls, DB one are rows & chins
Thurs. Squats % front squats
Following Monday: Press & dips
Thursday: Hi Pulls,. DB Hi-pulls, DB rows & chins
Following Monday: Squats & front squats
Thursday: Press & dips
etc, etc, etc,,
Good Luck.
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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2012, 03:15:44 PM » |
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there's tons of ways to do this train everyday but one bodypart per day try to not train a connected part two days in a row say chest and shoulder throw a thigh day in between. use the eight days a week training that many guys used years back simply think of a week as containg 8 days instead of 7 train every other day and after 8 days repeat the cycle hopefully adding weight depending on what stage of training your at beginner, intermediate or advanced.
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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2012, 03:16:29 PM » |
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I always change up how I train. I had some health issues but I seem to be on the mend. Now I'm really in poor shape but I'm going to get into decent shape for a vacation in 4 weeks.
I'm doing a whole body routine twice a week. Running the other 5 days.
1. Power cleans 2 sets of 6 reps 2. Dumbbell squats 2 of 12. Holding the dumbbells at my sides. Upright back. Squatting till bells brush the floor. 3. Stiff leg barbell deads off a block. Getting a nice deep stretch. 4. Dumbbell flat bench 2 of 6. Going as deep as possible. 5. Chins 2 sets. Dead hang trying to touch the top of my clavicles to the bar. No kips or minimal kips. 6. Low v bar cable row 2 of 12 7. Military presses 2 of 6 reps. Going all the way down. 8. Dumbbell laterals 2 of 10 9. cable bar curls 2 of 10 10. weighted dips 2 of 8 11. hanging leg raise super set with machine crunches. 12. standing calf raise 2 x 15 13. gripper work 2 sets. I use Ironmind grippers 14 neck work.
This takes me about 1.5 hours. I back track 6 workouts to a start weight. I see what my goal weight is going to be at the end of 6 work outs and I go back 5 to 10 pounds for workout one. Two workouts a week for three weeks. At the start the weights are light but I don't exceed my reps. It will get hard soon enough. If your goal is 225 in the bench for 2 sets at workout 6 a progression could look like this. Workout day one 200lbs. Workout day two 205lbs, workout day three 210 and so on to workout 6. I have made great and quick gains using this old fashion workout that many bodybuilders in the 50's used. I take two days off between workouts because of the drain of running.
Running is varied. 10 x 400 repeat intervals. 6 x 800 meter intervals. Tempo runs from 2 to 5 miles. I find my lifting goes so much better when I'm not running. It's a tough combo. It compromises both adaptations to training.
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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2012, 04:49:13 PM » |
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there's tons of ways to do this train everyday but one bodypart per day try to not train a connected part two days in a row say chest and shoulder throw a thigh day in between. use the eight days a week training that many guys used years back simply think of a week as containg 8 days instead of 7 train every other day and after 8 days repeat the cycle hopefully adding weight depending on what stage of training your at beginner, intermediate or advanced.
yeah, but what about this idea/concept of "systemic recovery"? like i said before, i was trying to deny that it's real, but recently i stopped training every goddman day, and guess what? i've made some decent progress, and now my muscles have a much better "pop" and seperation to them 
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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2012, 06:21:54 AM » |
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4 days
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Liar!!!!Filt!!!!
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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2012, 07:13:53 AM » |
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yeah, but what about this idea/concept of "systemic recovery"? like i said before, i was trying to deny that it's real, but recently i stopped training every goddman day, and guess what? i've made some decent progress, and now my muscles have a much better "pop" and seperation to them  the 8 days a week or beatle traing bet you don't see that connection is based on a one day on one day off training cycle one day rest in between. at the end of the 8 day cycle you see how you feel or progressed rest one or two days{or more} depending and start cycle again with the needed adjustments.
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« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2012, 06:49:47 PM » |
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I lift at least 3 days a week
usually 5
most likely
Upper Body M - W - F Lower Body Tuesday and Thursday or Tuesday and Saturday
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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2012, 09:43:48 AM » |
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I jerk off 3 times per day 7 days a week
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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2012, 09:53:03 AM » |
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I jerk off 3 times per day 7 days a week
Glory Hole business is treating you good huh?
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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2012, 10:36:53 AM » |
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Glory Hole business is treating you good huh?
As long as you keep coming three times a day I'll be fine
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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2012, 11:48:01 AM » |
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As long as you keep coming three times a day I'll be fine
As long as you don't lose your touch, I'll keep coming. 
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