Do you guys think this is an important chest move? I have really started to doubt itīs training effect . I have concentrated on Benches Flat/incline/decline. I also have dipping bars which i use to replace decline presses now and again.( dips are great)
I think flyes are a great chest movement, but I much prefer machines to free weights.
A pec-deck offers resistance/tension over a greater ROM, and you can extend that ROM even further by working one arm at a time and crossing the hand past the body's midline.
My favorite version is the style of pec-deck with the pads, which places tension almost exactly where you want it when working the chest muscles. I like pull-over machines for the same reason.
As for dips, again they're a favorite movement of mine. I've backed off of using them because I feel I'd actually been using them too much. I like to do them "Gironda-style" with the knuckles angled inward a bit. You can really get a good mind/muscle connection going by thinking about drawing the elbows in towards each other, which may help you use a little more chest rather than so much triceps.