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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #75 on: September 19, 2012, 08:08:48 PM »
Were you personally surprised to hear this? You're a smart guy with extensive  knowledge of weight training and an inside view for many years, serious question.

Did bob kennedy elaborate?

No, wasn't remotely surprised. Just thought I'd tell yas that Bob, who knew him, told me what he did.

Anything more? Can't recall, to be honest. Oh ... also that the dude was pulling beach babes like there was no tomorrow.

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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #76 on: September 19, 2012, 08:10:13 PM »

Its Bodybuilding not powerlifting. Most fat people who lift seriously, can lift heavy. doesnt make me wanna be fat tho!

Heavy is relative.

To lift poundage that equates to elite or world-class, not a chance. Fat just as fat does zippo to land you anywhere NEAR a highly competitive lift or total.

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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #77 on: September 19, 2012, 08:12:38 PM »
thanks stunt the world is twisted today, nobody believes anything and nobody attempts anything.

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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #78 on: September 19, 2012, 08:13:55 PM »
thanks stunt the world is twisted today, nobody believes anything and nobody attempts anything.

No one attempts anything? Yeah, okay.  ::)

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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #79 on: September 19, 2012, 08:14:15 PM »
So Fortress what do you think about what Stunt posted who actually knew him?  Did Bob know him well? What's the average annual rainfall of the amazon basin?

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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #80 on: September 19, 2012, 08:23:04 PM »
Not many, but I have seen quite a few 300-pounders of pure fat and they rarely push more than 185 in total shit fashion.

Hope this helps.

Very helpful, bro. Thanks a million.

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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #81 on: September 19, 2012, 08:27:34 PM »
So Fortress what do you think about what Stunt posted who actually knew him?  Did Bob know him well? What's the average annual rainfall of the amazon basin?

Hey, man, I'm telling you what I recall, okay? Nothing more and nothing less. However, let's not forget other VERY well known muscle men of the era also claim natural when everyone in the know knows, ya know? 

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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #82 on: September 19, 2012, 08:30:50 PM »
Whoa calm down.  I was just curious what your thoughts were after hearing from someone who actually knew him.  No harm, no foul.

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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #83 on: September 19, 2012, 08:32:19 PM »
Whoa calm down.  I was just curious what your thoughts were after hearing from someone who actually knew him.  No harm, no foul.

Didn't realize my post sounds like I am anything but calm. Just stating what I know. That's all.

Totally calm. Sorry. 

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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #84 on: September 20, 2012, 12:05:30 AM »
Like Stunt said, hormones been around for a while, its known that JFK was on steroid therapy in the early 30s already, to combat weight -loss from his ilnesses

Once again, admitting it... Lots of guys even lie to their wives regarding anabolic use, and legality not being an issue, you don't want your "advantage" to be known to all. Why would reeves dispell the mystique sorrounding him later in life.

I'd also imagine reeves wouldve been reliant on aas when in a strange country for many months filming movies to help get into shape. Italy was suffering then, not great conditions at the time


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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #85 on: September 20, 2012, 02:04:15 AM »
Plenty of bodybuilding drugs available thru the 1940's and onwards.

The first anabolic steroid isolated was androstenone from human urine by Adolf Butenandt. It was later synthesized by German chemist Leopold Ruzicka in 1931. Later three competing groups raced to isolate a more powerful androgen known to be present in testes and in 1935 Karoly Gyula David, E. Dingemanse, J. Freud and Ernst Laqueur published their successful isolation in a paper "On Crystalline Male Hormone from Testicles (Testosterone). The chemical synthesis of testosterone was achieved in August that year, by Butenandt and G. Hanisch. The age of anabolics was born. Clinical trials using methyltestosterone and testosterone propionate began in 1937. The sport of bodybuilding wasted no time. Testosterone propionate was mentioned in Strength and Health magazine in1938. There are unsubstantiated rumors that Nazi Germany used testosterone preparations on their armed forces. The Allied forces used them to treat malnourished concentration camp survivors. Therapeutic capacity of this class of compounds was realized the moment or even prior to the first isolations from natural tissue. One has to wonder how quickly these compounds made their way to Hollywood. I think of Mae West, who was toward the end of her Hollywood career by the end of the 1930s. What was she known for? Musclemen. She surrounded herself with musclemen. Hell, she married one in ther later years named Chester Rybinski, a Mr. California. Yes, one has to
wonder how soon Hollywood introduced steroids into the mix. Afterall, many Jews that were rescued from German concentration camps were really saved by these compounds. It is not unreasonable to think that Jewsish mogals in hollywood, that essentially ran the industry (i.e. Lewis Goldwyn - Carl Meyer et al.) knew of these things and their power?

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Russian sports programs began the use of testosterone derivatives in their athletic programs through the 1940s and quickly dominated Olympic lifting. At the same time in limited circles these anabolic compounds were being used for bodybuilding purposes. It is rumored that Reg Park, after winning the Mr. Briton title in 1949, visited the United States for 6 months where he met Joe Weider. It has been reported by former Mr. Universe (1972) Roger Walker that Park gained 50 lbs in that 6 months. There are also rumors that Steve Reeves used testosterone although he has denied their use in many interviews, although be did admit to B12 injections.

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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #86 on: September 20, 2012, 02:19:59 AM »
Reg park was a great bber, and by many accounts a very good man,
to me, its farcical to think he did not do anabolics, and it doesn't make him any less of a champ

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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #87 on: September 20, 2012, 02:26:03 AM »
Reg park was a great bber, and by many accounts a very good man,
to me, its farcical to think he did not do anabolics, and it doesn't make him any less of a champ

yep, Reg had a heart of gold, no doubt about that

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Re: Pat Casey: Proof that steroids are not needed (or wanted)
« Reply #90 on: September 20, 2012, 09:56:28 AM »
When are people gonna realize:

All old time champions did drugs. (Reeves, Casey, Pearl, Grimek, etc).
Many IronAge heroes did "favors" nude posing for rich men, or G4P (Reeves, Arnold, etc).

I saw a video on YouTube (Weider bros I think)? Where Joe says:
"I may be retired from working these competitions, but I still like to rub oil on the boys"..

Ghey..