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« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2012, 03:33:27 PM »

lets get out of everyones damn country and buisness i bet they wont hate us so much then

 

won't happen, as that would cause a loss of power and control
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« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2012, 03:33:56 PM »

What I don't understand is when people move from another country to this (or other country) for a better life, yet refuse to Intergrate into said country's society, and wish for the country that they emigrated to be like the country that they left...which doesn't make any damn sense, since you left to escape the way your original country was run.


Sounds like Mexican's.
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« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2012, 03:34:32 PM »

us only tolerates domestic hate/neeguls from own country but not other countries hating on us lol
Are you sympathizing with terrorists?  Shocked
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« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2012, 03:55:07 PM »

What I don't understand is when people move from another country to this (or other country) for a better life, yet refuse to Intergrate into said country's society, and wish for the country that they emigrated to be like the country that they left...which doesn't make any damn sense, since you left to escape the way your original country was run.



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« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2012, 03:56:15 PM »

Are you sympathizing with terrorists?  Shocked

actually we're terrorizing them adonis or invading them by their definition , we should get our embassy's out of there, no good whiteman should set foot in these savage countries unless they chill out


our attitude about being diplomatic with the world is just a coverup to really destroy the shit out of these countries

USA "hey we bring some chicken nuggets and some potato to your country for starving people"

Egypt "ok great man but some of use dont want you to keep comeing over here and we want you to GTFO bitch"

USA "he we come and bring som more hchikn nugget and fench fries"

Egypt "ok we fucking kill you next time you come over"

USA " you just killed some of our guys now we invade the fuck out of your country take everting you do not accept out offering "

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« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2012, 04:33:01 PM »

What I don't understand is when people move from another country to this (or other country) for a better life, yet refuse to Intergrate into said country's society, and wish for the country that they emigrated to be like the country that they left...which doesn't make any damn sense, since you left to escape the way your original country was run.



i have asked numerous immigrants from asians to indians to muslims and they all say the same thing

we dont want to live like them, the people who have no culture or morals. people who act like fools


you have to understand its very hard to come from a place like that and excpect them to integrate

where sex and alcohol are dominant
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« Reply #56 on: September 16, 2012, 05:03:06 PM »



 The maelstrom of anti-western violence in the Arab world has little to do with an anti-Islam propaganda film released on YouTube.

It has more to do with decades of perceived western imperialism and the organisational skills of the Salafis, known for their no-compromise, literal interpretation of the faith.

Such rightwing Islamists were wrongfooted by the Arab spring. For years, the jihadis and Salafis thought they had a monopoly on revolution and were the only viable opposition to the Arab dictators.

When the regimes were threatened by popular uprisings, the Salafis took weeks and months to respond. In Libya they initially called for the demonstrators to support the ruler of the land, Muammar Gaddafi. As it became clear that the revolutions would not instantly deliver the brighter future people had marched for, the Salafis began to use that discontent to their advantage.

They are brilliant at agitating on the streets working on the unemployed, the frustrated, people who feel life should be better. In Tunis, the Salafi agitation began months before the propaganda film the Innocence of Muslims surfaced. They attacked cinemas, secularists and artists. In Bahrain and Syria they worked along sectarian lines, and in Egypt they launched vicious confrontations with the Coptic Christians.

In Libya, the Salafis have been systematically burning Sufi shrines and trashing Christian cemeteries, while the government has felt too weak to confront them. Some of the demonstrations in Damascus, Khartoum and Tehran will have been backed by the state.

Anti-western sentiment is rife in the Arab world. Germans, British, Danish all are deemed guilty for the colonial crimes of the past and present. The US, of course, is perceived as the most arrogant of all, with 50 or more years of perceived bigotry, support for Israel at the expense of the Palestinians, sanctions on Iran and occupation of Iraq.

Barack Obama's Arab honeymoon was squandered by drone attacks on Pakistan and Yemen and his impotence over Israel. As Salman Rushdie wrote recently in the New Yorker about the people who led the fatwa against him: "As for the British Muslim 'leaders', whom, exactly, did they lead? They were leaders without followers, mountebanks trying to make careers out of her brother's misfortune. For a generation, the politics of ethnic minorities in Britain had been secular and socialist. This was the mosques' way of getting religion into the driver's seat."

So it is with the Salafis. Very few of the people setting fire to the German embassy in Khartoum, attacking the American school in Tunis or torching a KFC in Beirut will have even seen the Innocence of Muslims. If the prophet had really been insulted, you would see 100 million in the streets. Instead we only see a few thousand.

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/14/embassy-attacks-salafis-jihadists?intcmp=239

 Btw: Bush used to say and Obama keep repeating that USA is the world oldest democracy,

 Can someone explain that to me? Democracy was created in Greece, i believe "i could googled .. but im not in a mood" until 60's or 70's blacks or women was not allowed to vote in USA... so?

 Almost forgot, you vote on someone that will represent you, you still don't have the power to vote...where's your democracy?


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« Reply #57 on: September 16, 2012, 05:06:39 PM »

Btw: Bush used to say and Obama keep repeating that USA is the world oldest democracy,

 Can someone explain that to me? Democracy was created in Greece, i believe "i could googled .. but im not in a mood" until 60's or 70's blacks or women was not allowed to vote in USA... so?

 Almost forgot, you vote on someone that will represent you, you still don't have the power to vote...where's your democracy?


 You can not spread something you don't have.
We are most definitely not the worlds oldest Democracy. Im unsure about Greece, but I KNOW Rome at one point was a representative republic just the the US.
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« Reply #58 on: September 16, 2012, 05:11:06 PM »

i have asked numerous immigrants from asians to indians to muslims and they all say the same thing

we dont want to live like them, the people who have no culture or morals. people who act like fools


you have to understand its very hard to come from a place like that and excpect them to integrate

where sex and alcohol are dominant

Yes, like you can't find sex and alcohol in their countries. Where many of them stockpile American porn like comicbook collectors. Or where they exploit their women in the sex trade.

Please---when you see Asians opening up liquor stores, and Indians/pakis groping women that come to their
gas stations or 7/11s and then call them whores...you see that many of them don't want to intergrate. Because if their country and or culture was so great, why did they move---why can't they be better.

Funny thing is, their kids become more American than native born Americans.
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« Reply #59 on: September 16, 2012, 05:12:39 PM »

Yes, like you can't find sex and alcohol in their countries. Where many of them stockpile American porn like comicbook collectors. Or where they exploit their women in the sex trade.

Please---when you see Asians opening up liquor stores, and Indians/pakis groping women that come to their
gas stations or 7/11s and then call them whores...you see that many of them don't want to intergrate. Because if their country and or culture was so great, why did they move---why can't they be better.

Funny thing is, their kids become more American than native born Americans.
Its true, pisses me off to see immigrants flee their shitholes only to try and bring the same fucking culture here, you left for a reason fucksticks!
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« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2012, 05:19:27 PM »

Yes, like you can't find sex and alcohol in their countries. Where many of them stockpile American porn like comicbook collectors. Or where they exploit their women in the sex trade.

Please---when you see Asians opening up liquor stores, and Indians/pakis groping women that come to their
gas stations or 7/11s and then call them whores...you see that many of them don't want to intergrate. Because if their country and or culture was so great, why did they move---why can't they be better.

Funny thing is, their kids become more American than native born Americans.

Exactly. Asians/Pakistani's usually have the largest and most extensive selection of dirty magazines in their gas stations.
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« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2012, 05:25:27 PM »

Its true, pisses me off to see immigrants flee their shitholes only to try and bring the same fucking culture here, you left for a reason fucksticks!

Yes, these bitches should stay in their country and build it up, instead of coming to our well oiled machine like a bunch of Johnny come latelys. We should close our borders, seriously. I can't stand immigrants unless they're western European.
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« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2012, 05:36:59 PM »

Exactly. Asians/Pakistani's usually have the largest and most extensive selection of dirty magazines in their gas stations.
Their is a growing problem of them sexually assaulting women at night at gas stations or 7/11s. And if charges are filed, they flee the country...

I think people obsess over what is taboo in their culture, and when are here, they go hog wild, but blame said culture for "tempting" them with "sin", therefore creating a hatred for said culture...

I don't give a damn if you come over here for a better life. But some people are rediculous. You don't demand or change the culture to suit the way you lived back in your original country---because you left that for a reason. I understand many people don't want to lose their culture, but it's a give and take.
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« Reply #63 on: September 16, 2012, 05:52:40 PM »

dont these radical egyptians and muslims remind you of GROINK getting all angry and hateful because he doesnt wack off
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« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2012, 06:33:22 PM »

Sounds like Mexican's.
Mexicans bOost the economy, not blow shit up tho.
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« Reply #65 on: September 16, 2012, 06:40:11 PM »

Mexicans bOost the economy, not blow shit up tho.

But, they bring down the average height, muddy up the demographics, and generally drink and drive.
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« Reply #66 on: September 16, 2012, 06:46:06 PM »

What I don't understand is when people move from another country to this (or other country) for a better life, yet refuse to Intergrate into said country's society, and wish for the country that they emigrated to be like the country that they left...which doesn't make any damn sense, since you left to escape the way your original country was run.



Its usually the muslims who refuse to intergrate. Most other religions have no problem getting along with other cultures. The sharia law added to the host country? Really? Do Hindus or buddhists or any other religion make similar demands? Of course not.

Religion of Peace? Only in hollow words and not action.  Of course muslims will try to make the arguement that all this savagery is done by outcasts that dont follow islam or the koran.
Really?
So why dont the "real" muslims speak out and condemn these actions?
Where are these so called islamic scholars when death is called for as punishment because someone has a differing point of view?
Do these true followers of Islam step in prevent women from being stoned to death or  prevent similar atrocities?

There are plenty of muslims on getbig that love to jump on the US or any western nation at the slightest excuse but when atrocities are committed by their own they stay silent.

The greatest enemy of Islam is their own kind not the US. It's no surprise that muslims are unwelcome in every country that they are not the majority in.
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« Reply #67 on: September 16, 2012, 06:50:20 PM »

But, they bring down the average height, muddy up the demographics, and generally drink and drive.
But they cook the best food and some Latinas are hot. So I will let that shit slide.
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« Reply #68 on: September 16, 2012, 06:55:28 PM »

Its usually the muslims who refuse to intergrate. Most other religions have no problem getting along with other cultures. The sharia law added to the host country? Really? Do Hindus or buddhists or any other religion make similar demands? Of course not.

Religion of Peace? Only in hollow words and not action.  Of course muslims will try to make the arguement that all this savagery is done by outcasts that dont follow islam or the koran.
Really?
So why dont the "real" muslims speak out and condemn these actions?
Where are these so called islamic scholars when death is called for as punishment because someone has a differing point of view?
Do these true followers of Islam step in prevent women from being stoned to death or  prevent similar atrocities?

There are plenty of muslims on getbig that love to jump on the US or any western nation at the slightest excuse but when atrocities are committed by their own they stay silent.

The greatest enemy of Islam is their own kind not the US. It's no surprise that muslims are unwelcome in every country that they are not the majority in.


Where are the liberals and why are they not speaking up against the extremists?

1.  They are outnumbered (the level of uneducated people who are extreme is far greater in these parts of the world than of those who are educated and are against this silliness.

2.  They fear for their lives because if they speak up against the crazies they will be attacked and possibly killed.  Trust me on this one, I've lived and worked in that part of the world.)

3.  They leave their countries and assimilate/ keep a low profile in western countries (as me and my family have done) which is why you don't hear from them.  You will only notice the crazies who don't want to integrate into western society.


The liberals who stand against this savagery exist in the Muslim world, they are not the majority, but they are there.
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« Reply #69 on: September 16, 2012, 06:59:24 PM »

Are the Muslims in southeast Asia as bad as the ones in the middle east?  Maybe it's an Arab/Persian thing.
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« Reply #70 on: September 16, 2012, 07:00:42 PM »

Are the Muslims in southeast Asia as bad as the ones in the middle east?  Maybe it's an Arab/Persian thing.

Yes in a place like Indonesia, no in a place like Malaysia.
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« Reply #71 on: September 16, 2012, 07:07:49 PM »

Are the Muslims in southeast Asia as bad as the ones in the middle east?  Maybe it's an Arab/Persian thing.
I was good friends with a few from the UAE and they were completely normal and against the nonsense.  They really didn`t believe in Islam either.  The wealthier and more learned of course, the less extreme.  The problem is most are not in that position (UAE excluded of course where everyone is pretty much wealthy) and resort to Extremism.

However, Extremists also control the government lock, stock and barrel in many Islam dominant countries. 

Dictators like Saddam and Ghadaffi learned to keep the Extremism in a bit of a check.  Saddam even had a Christian Vice-President which is supposed to be a huge no no taboo in Sharia Law.  Dictators may be able to keep them in check, however it also breeds the contempt amongst the poor.  And what does Mr. Dictator do, blame every other country for his countries woes, when in reality its his regime oppressing the people, and they eat it right up.

Its a difficult situation.  All of it.

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« Reply #72 on: September 16, 2012, 07:11:10 PM »

I was good friends with a few from the UAE and they were completely normal and against the nonsense.  They really didn`t believe in Islam either.  The wealthier and more learned of course, the less extreme.  The problem is most are not in that position (UAE excluded of course where everyone is pretty much wealthy) and resort to Extremism.

However, Extremists also control the government lock, stock and barrel in many Islam dominant countries. 

Dictators like Saddam and Ghadaffi learned to keep the Extremism in a bit of a check.  Saddam even had a Christian Vice-President which is supposed to be a huge no no taboo in Sharia Law.  Dictators may be able to keep them in check, however it also breeds the contempt amongst the poor.  And what does Mr. Dictator do, blame every other country for his countries woes, when in reality its his regime oppressing the people, and they eat it right up.

Its a difficult situation.  All of it.



Mubarak never allowed the Muslim brotherhood to have any political power, and he had a zero tolerance policy on terrorism.  If you ever even smelled like a terrorist they would haul your ass in to jail and make your life a living hell!
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« Reply #73 on: September 16, 2012, 07:17:31 PM »

Mubarak never allowed the Muslim brotherhood to have any political power, and he had a zero tolerance policy on terrorism.  If you ever even smelled like a terrorist they would haul your ass in to jail and make your life a living hell!
Same with Saddam.  Terrorists were their biggest rivals to their own power.
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« Reply #74 on: September 16, 2012, 07:20:36 PM »

Same with Saddam.  Terrorists were their biggest rivals to their own power.

Big difference is; Mubarak did whatever the US wanted and this is why, til today, the US gives Egypt 1.55 Billion dollars in aid.


Saddam did things differently lol
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