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Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« on: September 24, 2012, 05:27:25 PM »
When do you typically train, and do you try to stick to the same schedule?

I try to train late. I'm doing extra cardio now. Right now I train during the day. I'm assuming I'll be training during the day when I'm in Vegas, so right now I'm trying to get used to that schedule.
That's one thing some people are critical of when they see your videos online—that you don't train crazy or lift heavy like, say, Branch Warren.




Do you think that is accurate?

I think I train hard and heavier than what most people think. I'm not trying to train with massive amounts of weights. I'm also not trying to get hurt.
I think if they watched my DVDs and see the pre-online content they'd see more of it. When I'm close to the show I use mostly machines to not get injured. In my offseason, I'll train heavier but I'm trying not to get hurt. I train as smart as I can. I'm not concerned what others think. I do what works for me.


You've successfully avoided major injury in your bodybuilding career. What's the key to not getting injured?

We all have tweaks, but my ability to recover is remarkable. I know my limits and those produce good results. You have to use proper form and good technique.
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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 05:30:54 PM »
I wonder what his max lifts are.  Someone as big as him should at least be able to bench 500+, Deadlift 800, and squat 700-800.

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 05:47:29 PM »
Why anyone would risk injury to be strong when you can get better results without it. Worst thing I ever did was lift heavy for years. Give me a weight I can hit for 10-15 reps, high volume, and I don't give a fuck if I am lifting the lightest weights in the gym. The whole hardcore mentality is for kids. If you enjoy it so be it. But training not to get injured, or at least minimize it is the smartest thing you can do. It's about longevity, and looking good, not I lifted this much weight to impress some dumb fuck I don't even care about. He gets injured his whole lively hood is gone.

The reality is you don't have to deadlift or squat, or barbell bench either.

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 05:50:57 PM »
I wonder what his max lifts are.  Someone as big as him should at least be able to bench 500+, Deadlift 800, and squat 700-800.

He has a tiny frame. No way he is super strong.

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2012, 05:58:48 PM »
Agree with heath... I think lifti g heavy with GOOD form is key....
when you look at branch and johnnie training...  :-\ ..bad... very bad
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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2012, 06:02:43 PM »
He has a tiny frame. No way he is super strong.
he is quite strong actually....
watch his vids....
techinacALLYy in IMO stronger than branch.... simply because branch never does any lift properly


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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2012, 06:07:01 PM »
Agree with heath... I think lifti g heavy with GOOD form is key....
when you look at branch and johnnnyie training...  :-\ ..bad... very bad


so, you are saying that if branch and johnnie used proper form that they would be stronger and get better muscle growth results?

you now more about what works for them than they do
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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2012, 06:10:17 PM »
I wonder what his max lifts are.  Someone as big as him should at least be able to bench 500+, Deadlift 800, and squat 700-800.
wow you have the IQ of a peanut, always manage to incorporate a lie in your thread title and now you have proven your lack of knowledge as what number are used among bodybuilders. Take a 100 people Phil's size and only a few will pull an 800 and squat 800, those are fucken insane numbers and are world class figures. The bench, well that one you may have gotten right.

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2012, 06:15:06 PM »
he is quite strong actually....
watch his vids....
techinacALLYy in IMO stronger than branch.... simply because branch never does any lift properly



No way in hell Phil is stronger then Branch. Cmon bro stop exaggerating. With proper form Branch's numbers would not drop that much

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2012, 06:21:56 PM »
wow you have the IQ of a peanut, always manage to incorporate a lie in your thread title and now you have proven your lack of knowledge as what number are used among bodybuilders. Take a 100 people Phil's size and only a few will pull an 800 and squat 800, those are fucken insane numbers and are world class figures. The bench, well that one you may have gotten right.

Heath is 280 off season.  He should be able to pull 800 and squat 700 at that bodyweight with the amount of muscle he has.

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2012, 06:26:03 PM »
Heath is 280 off season.  He should be able to pull 800 and squat 700 at that bodyweight with the amount of muscle he has.
Ronnie was 320 and is considered the strongest bodybuilder of all time because he pulled 800 so WTF are you talking about

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2012, 06:28:55 PM »
he is quite strong actually....
watch his vids....
techinacALLYy in IMO stronger than branch.... simply because branch never does any lift properly



lol thats an incline press not a military press

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2012, 06:29:24 PM »
No way in hell Phil is stronger then Branch. Cmon bro stop exaggerating. With proper form Branch's numbers would not drop that much
you sure ive seen a vid with heath inlining 160's 170's easy
shoulder pressing 130 1402
id pay to see johnny or branch do that with proper form
even dexter on bfto repped 405 proper or...i would pay to see branch do it proper form..... for 10 reps
most of branch lifts are pure momentum
seated military presses and the guy is standing and leaning back on the bench
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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2012, 06:30:04 PM »
lol thats an incline press not a military press
a STANDING incline press .. with momentum all the way
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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2012, 06:31:10 PM »
a STANDING incline press .. with momentum all the way
is phil the only popular BB that still doesnt a standing military?

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2012, 06:38:53 PM »
Ronnie was 320 and is considered the strongest bodybuilder of all time because he pulled 800 so WTF are you talking about

Ronnie was 270 in The Unbelievable when he pulled 800.  Honestly I'm surprised Ron didn't pull more considering how much muscle mass he had.

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2012, 06:40:01 PM »
Why anyone would risk injury to be strong when you can get better results without it. Worst thing I ever did was lift heavy for years. Give me a weight I can hit for 10-15 reps, high volume, and I don't give a fuck if I am lifting the lightest weights in the gym. The whole hardcore mentality is for kids. If you enjoy it so be it. But training not to get injured, or at least minimize it is the smartest thing you can do. It's about longevity, and looking good, not I lifted this much weight to impress some dumb fuck I don't even care about. He gets injured his whole lively hood is gone.

The reality is you don't have to deadlift or squat, or barbell bench either.

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2012, 06:47:08 PM »
Ronnie was 320 and is considered the strongest bodybuilder of all time because he pulled 800 so WTF are you talking about
he pulled it at 280 see ronnie coleman the unbelievable....  weeks out rom the mr o 2000
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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2012, 06:50:02 PM »
he pulled it at 280 see ronnie coleman the unbelievable....  weeks out rom the mr o 2000
OK fine but doesn't change the fact that he is the exception

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2012, 06:50:50 PM »


The reality is you don't have to deadlift or squat, or barbell bench either.
because machines like the leg press are just dandy subsitutes ::)

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2012, 06:51:36 PM »
OK fine but doesn't change the fact that he is the exception
agree
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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2012, 07:04:12 PM »
because machines like the leg press are just dandy subsitutes ::)

Nothing wrong with leg press.  I was just reading an old article by Gherrit Badenhorst where he advocates leg press!

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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2012, 07:08:52 PM »
Nothing wrong with leg press.  I was just reading an old article by Gherrit Badenhorst where he advocates leg press!
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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2012, 08:03:10 PM »
keep reading

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leg presses cannot replace squats....
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Re: Phill heath on regarding Strength and his training / Branch warren
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2012, 10:44:11 PM »
;D
leg presses cannot replace squats....