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« Reply #1050 on: May 27, 2013, 08:24:09 PM »



Was that before or after they stabbed a soldier in the neck?

I'm fairly lev-headed I think and I don't blame the whole for the actions of the few, but we have seen a pattern start to emerge:

Muslims who claim to be moderate will not step in and unconditionally condemn the extreme action of other Muslims, if they condemn them at all.
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« Reply #1051 on: May 27, 2013, 10:16:58 PM »

Was that before or after they stabbed a soldier in the neck?

I'm fairly lev-headed I think and I don't blame the whole for the actions of the few, but we have seen a pattern start to emerge:

Muslims who claim to be moderate will not step in and unconditionally condemn the extreme action of other Muslims, if they condemn them at all.


Are you serious?

Every Friday at the mosque during the (kuthba)lecture the speaker out right condemns terrorism of any form.

Hundreds and hundreds of YouTube videos talking about how killing/terror is not islam and outright forbidden.

Many many many big Islamic scholars have come out against terrorism/murder of innocent people/terrorist groups and gangs

We(Muslims on getbig) have showed you many verses of the Quran in which killing of innocent people has been STRICLY forbidden.

And for your information most terror attacks which have been disrupted/prevented from happen was because of MUSLIMS who took action to stop the terrorists!

The media will never show you how much good Muslims have done in stopping terrorists! The Muslims could stop 10 terror attacks and miss 1 and all of a sudden it's those 10 which were stopped never existed... Look at the recent plane to bomb a train headed from Canada to NY. It was stopped by a local imam! So many many cases like this which the media dosent report.

Open your eyes! Use your head!

Do you think muslims enjoy these attacks? NO! We hate then much more then you do.
Seriously, some loser lunatic who dosent even know the basics of islam will go bomb something and the rest of us muslims feel the discrimination, hate, insults...all for what? Something which we had nothing to do with, and neither did the beautiful religion(islam). These idiots(terrorists) have killed more Muslim men,women and children then all non-muslim men, women, children combined!


So please quit this garage of "you don't condem them"...because WE DO! If the media fails to report it, then that's separate issue.
 
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« Reply #1052 on: May 27, 2013, 11:09:04 PM »

Are you serious?

Every Friday at the mosque during the (kuthba)lecture the speaker out right condemns terrorism of any form.

Hundreds and hundreds of YouTube videos talking about how killing/terror is not islam and outright forbidden.

Many many many big Islamic scholars have come out against terrorism/murder of innocent people/terrorist groups and gangs

We(Muslims on getbig) have showed you many verses of the Quran in which killing of innocent people has been STRICLY forbidden.

And for your information most terror attacks which have been disrupted/prevented from happen was because of MUSLIMS who took action to stop the terrorists!

The media will never show you how much good Muslims have done in stopping terrorists! The Muslims could stop 10 terror attacks and miss 1 and all of a sudden it's those 10 which were stopped never existed... Look at the recent plane to bomb a train headed from Canada to NY. It was stopped by a local imam! So many many cases like this which the media dosent report.

Open your eyes! Use your head!

Do you think muslims enjoy these attacks? NO! We hate then much more then you do.
Seriously, some loser lunatic who dosent even know the basics of islam will go bomb something and the rest of us muslims feel the discrimination, hate, insults...all for what? Something which we had nothing to do with, and neither did the beautiful religion(islam). These idiots(terrorists) have killed more Muslim men,women and children then all non-muslim men, women, children combined!


So please quit this garage of "you don't condem them"...because WE DO! If the media fails to report it, then that's separate issue.
 

If you unconditionally condemn such attacks, then good for you. Maybe the media doesn't cover this sort of thing, and maybe they should. But the important thing is to condemn this sort of brutality in no uncertain terms.
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« Reply #1053 on: May 28, 2013, 12:02:49 AM »

If you unconditionally condemn such attacks, then good for you. Maybe the media doesn't cover this sort of thing, and maybe they should. But the important thing is to condemn this sort of brutality in no uncertain terms.
It's all bullshit! Even when they do condemn Terrorist acts you can never trust them.  Muslims are compelled to lie to the infidels by the Koran.  It's called taqiyya and kitman  They have no issue with lying through their back teeth about anything if it is to promote their sick twisted ideology.  Already Stingray and some others have applauded the terrorist act and said a Soldier acting as a civilian away from the warzone is still fair game.

That's what Westerners will never understand about Muslims, they are pathological liars, whether it be promoting their religion with absurd propaganda or expressing their feelings on terrorist acts.  Westerners are encouraged from a young age to be very honest, Muslims are encouraged from an early age to lie.  This is a fundamental difference that for an honest Westerner is hard to understand.  If you are basically an honest person it is hard to understand that Muslims could so easily lie to others, but they do, and that's why they simply can't be trusted.





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« Reply #1054 on: May 28, 2013, 12:25:08 AM »

It's all bullshit! Even when they do condemn Terrorist acts you can never trust them.  Muslims are compelled to lie to the infidels by the Koran.  It's called taqiyya and kitman  They have no issue with lying through their back teeth about anything if it is to promote their sick twisted ideology.  Already Stingray and some others have applauded the terrorist act and said a Soldier acting as a civilian away from the warzone is still fair game.

That's what Westerners will never understand about Muslims, they are pathological liars, whether it be promoting their religion with absurd propaganda or expressing their feelings on terrorist acts.  Westerners are encouraged from a young age to be very honest, Muslims are encouraged from an early age to lie.  This is a fundamental difference that for an honest Westerner is hard to understand.  If you are basically an honest person it is hard to understand that Muslims could so easily lie to others, but they do, and that's why they simply can't be trusted.






Taqiyya is for shia muslims. I hope you knew that.
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« Reply #1055 on: May 28, 2013, 07:39:41 AM »

Lying in islam? E kul you yourself need to stop lying and spreading nonsense. Lying is strictly forbidden in islam and there's no diffrence of opinion on that! All scholars unanimously agree lying us a sin. Lying about islam takes it to a whole diffrent level.



Narrated Sufyan ibn Asid al-Hadrami: I heard the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) say: It is great treachery that you should tell your brother something and have him believe you when you are lying.
Sunan of Abu-Dawood – Book 41 Hadith 4953


Narrated Sahl bin Sa`d: The Prophet said, “Whoever guarantees me (the chastity of) what is between his legs (i.e. his private parts), and what is between his jaws (i.e., his tongue), I guarantee him Paradise.”
Sahih Al-Bukhari – Book 82 Hadith 799


Abdullah reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Truth leads one to Paradise and virtue leads one to Paradise and the person tells the truth until he is recorded as truthful, and lie leads to obscenity and obscenity leads to Hell, and the person tells a lie until he is recorded as a liar.
Sahih Muslim – Book 32 Hadith 6307



Allah’s Apostle said, “The signs of a hypocrite are three: Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie; and whenever he promises, he breaks his promise; and whenever he is entrusted, he betrays (proves to be dishonest)”.
Sahih Al-Bukhari – Book 73 Hadith 117



It is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) observed: Three (are the persons) with whom Allah would neither speak, nor would He absolve them on the Day of Resurrection. Abu Mu’awiya added: He would not look at them and there is grievous torment for them: the aged adulterer, the liar king and the proud destitute.
Sahih Muslim – Book 1 Hadith 195


Abdullah b. Mas’ud reported that Muhammad (may peace be upon him) said: Should I inform you that slandering, that is in fact a tale-carrying which creates dissension amongst people, (and) he (further) said: The person tells the truth until he is recorded as truthful, and lie tells a lie until lie is recorded as a liar.
Sahih Muslim – Book 32 Hadith 6306



“When a believer utters a lie without a valid excuse, he is cursed by seventy thousand angels. Such a stench emanates from his heart that it reaches the sky and because of this single lie Allah writes for him a sin equivalent to that of committing seventy fornications. Such fornications that the least of which is fornication with ones mother.”
(Mustadrak ul-Wasa’il)
 
^ do I need to say more?

Yes Shias are known to lie, but they Shias aren't even regarded as muslims by most other muslims. They(Shias) slander the companions, wives of prophet...ect. And major(the overwhelming majority) of muslims are Sunnis. Don't confuse the two.
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« Reply #1056 on: May 28, 2013, 07:45:06 AM »


Taqiyya is for shia muslims. I hope you knew that.

Yep^ 100% true.

E kul you need to get educated before you want to debate.

Sunni(majorty of the muslim world) isn't Shia. They are vastly diffrent, don't mix the two.
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« Reply #1057 on: May 28, 2013, 08:22:59 AM »

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« Reply #1060 on: May 28, 2013, 09:41:20 AM »

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« Reply #1061 on: May 28, 2013, 09:55:11 AM »

Yep^ 100% true.

E kul you need to get educated before you want to debate.

Sunni(majorty of the muslim world) isn't Shia. They are vastly diffrent, don't mix the two.
More Muslim lies! See! You can never trust these dirty  fuckers, if they aren't hating and lying to non-muslims there hating their fellow Muslim.  This is just a case of Shia Muslims are more honest abut their level of deceit than Sunnis (Sunnis are the bigger liars , Shia admit they lie whereas a Sunni will not admit to even that - which makes them pretty EVIL)

There are plenty of examples of Sunnis practicing taqiyya  where it was necessary.

Sunni and Shi'a both observe the Koranic verse 16:106
Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah , and for them is a great punishment;

The Sunnis are probably more contradictory on the matter than the Shia.  The like to confuse the matter and have a similar word for there Bullshit called idtirar which is Protecting one's belief during demanding circumstances.   Sunnis believe that it is allowed to deny faith under compulsion, threat, or fear of injury, as long as the heart remains firm in faith.  Some Sunnis have a contradictory view and believe one is rewarded more if maintaining ones faith in the face of death.  

This is just more macho Muslim BS, as the Shia's faced more persecution (from the Sunnis) so they OK'ed lying about their faith whereas the Sunnis were less persecuted and less likely to have to lie about their faith.  But their are many examples of both Shia And Sunni lying about their faith.  Amazing how taqiyya came about because of Muslims killing other Muslims. lol Muslims had to lie to protect themselves from other Muslims

You guys proved my point straight away, Muslims can't be straight up with other people, they deny, twist, distort and manipulate the facts to suit themselves.  if you make a claim, they make a contradictory claim, if you highlight the violent verses in the Koran, they highlight the earlier peaceful ones if you point out the Koran tells them to ignore the earlier peaceful verses and follow the latter violent ones, they make up some other bullshit to cover their arse.  You see, you cannot work with a Muslim, they will LIE and LIE and LIE and they will deny they do THIS.  Because they are compulsive LIARS who can never be trusted.

Q: How do you know when a Muslim is LYING?
A: When they open their mouth!
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« Reply #1062 on: May 28, 2013, 11:19:18 AM »


Taqiyya is for shia muslims. I hope you knew that.

E-kul doesnt know what he is talking about.

He has posted the same quote by steven seagull a hundred times on this forum, yet i never found any statement on the net that seagull said that muslims should stop lying.

E-kul is good at manipulating and distorting images.

If seagull doesnt like muslims and that the lie, how come seagull went to muslim country chechnya and met with a muslim rebel fighter.
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« Reply #1063 on: May 28, 2013, 11:35:05 AM »

More Muslim lies! See! You can never trust these dirty  fuckers, if they aren't hating and lying to non-muslims there hating their fellow Muslim.  This is just a case of Shia Muslims are more honest abut their level of deceit than Sunnis (Sunnis are the bigger liars , Shia admit they lie whereas a Sunni will not admit to even that - which makes them pretty EVIL)

There are plenty of examples of Sunnis practicing taqiyya  where it was necessary.

Sunni and Shi'a both observe the Koranic verse 16:106
Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah , and for them is a great punishment;

The Sunnis are probably more contradictory on the matter than the Shia.  The like to confuse the matter and have a similar word for there Bullshit called idtirar which is Protecting one's belief during demanding circumstances.   Sunnis believe that it is allowed to deny faith under compulsion, threat, or fear of injury, as long as the heart remains firm in faith.  Some Sunnis have a contradictory view and believe one is rewarded more if maintaining ones faith in the face of death.  

This is just more macho Muslim BS, as the Shia's faced more persecution (from the Sunnis) so they OK'ed lying about their faith whereas the Sunnis were less persecuted and less likely to have to lie about their faith.  But their are many examples of both Shia And Sunni lying about their faith.  Amazing how taqiyya came about because of Muslims killing other Muslims. lol Muslims had to lie to protect themselves from other Muslims

You guys proved my point straight away, Muslims can't be straight up with other people, they deny, twist, distort and manipulate the facts to suit themselves.  if you make a claim, they make a contradictory claim, if you highlight the violent verses in the Koran, they highlight the earlier peaceful ones if you point out the Koran tells them to ignore the earlier peaceful verses and follow the latter violent ones, they make up some other bullshit to cover their arse.  You see, you cannot work with a Muslim, they will LIE and LIE and LIE and they will deny they do THIS.  Because they are compulsive LIARS who can never be trusted.

Q: How do you know when a Muslim is LYING?
A: When they open their mouth!

my friend, you are simply mistaken. why do you keep insisting on lies? why do you want to slander and distort the image of islam? I honestly don't understand what your deal is?

you never back up your proofs, everything you quote is out of context.
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« Reply #1064 on: May 28, 2013, 11:41:22 AM »

my friend, you are simply mistaken. why do you keep insisting on lies? why do you want to slander and distort the image of islam? I honestly don't understand what your deal is?

you never back up your proofs, everything you quote is out of context.

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« Reply #1065 on: May 28, 2013, 11:49:49 AM »

my friend, you are simply mistaken. why do you keep insisting on lies? why do you want to slander and distort the image of islam? I honestly don't understand what your deal is?

you never back up your proofs, everything you quote is out of context.
Muslims do a good enough job of ruining the Image of Islam, they don't need any outside help.  You should stop being so precious.  And top feigning naivety, you know damn well why people attack Islam.  If it was the Amish regularly committing acts of terrorism, they would also be under the spotlight.  Decent citizens don't appreciate Special interest Groups like Islam Committing disgusting vile acts and then claiming it has nothing to do with the group.  You can't have your cake and eat it too, if you don't want to be linked with a terrorist ideology, they don't link yourself with it, it's that simple.  Your cries of unfairness are like a KKK member complaining for being called a racist, or a member of NAMBLA complaining they are called paedophiles.  Islam is simply offensive to decency, but because Muslims practice indecency they simply cannot grasp the concept.  Muslims by the virtue of their practice of a vile immoral ideology seem oblivious to how disgusting they appear to a Western mind, And the most insulting part of it is, you guys think you are some beacon of morality or piety.  It is enough to make any good person physically ill.
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« Reply #1066 on: May 28, 2013, 03:34:33 PM »

Dont be cruel.

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« Reply #1067 on: May 28, 2013, 04:27:20 PM »

Muslims do a good enough job of ruining the Image of Islam, they don't need any outside help.

Isn't that the truth - I don't think that anyone will disagree; people who slash throats and claim to do so in the name of Islam ruin the image of Islam (whether they are acting in accordance to Islam or not is largely irrelevant).  Of course, the same can be said of just about every group - the bad apples ruin the imagine of the group.

But, right now at least, it seems that with there's a whole batch that is bad. The same craziness is going on all over Europe. In Greece Muslims riot and claim that they are ready to fight and die for their faith. In Paris soldiers are stabbed. In England people are beheaded. In the Netherlands people are brutally murdered. Need I go on?
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“I have studied him (Muhammad PBUH) - the wonderful man and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it much needed peace and happiness.”
― George Bernard Shaw, The Genuine Islam


“Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images, the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire: that is MUHAMMAD. As regards all the standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask IS THERE ANY MAN GREATER THAN HE?”
― Alphonse de Lamartine, History of Turkey

“If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad?”
― Alphonse de Lamartine, History of Turkey


“The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only.”
― Thomas Carlyle, On Heroes, Hero Worship, and the Heroic in History

“Muhammad introduced the concept of such Glorious and Omnipotent God in Whose eyes all worldly systems are pieces of straw. Islamic equality of mankind is no fiction as it is in Christianity. No human mind has ever thought of such total freedom as established by Muhammad.”
― Dr. Mawde Royden


“تبسمك في وجه أخيك صدقة، وأمرك بالمعروف صدقة ونهيك عن المنكر صدقة، وإرشادك الرجل في أرض الضلال لك صدقة، ونصرك الرجل الرديء البصر لك صدقة، وإماطتك الحجر والشوك العظم عن الطريق لك صدقة
Smiling in your brother’s face is an act of charity.
So is enjoining good and forbidding evil,
giving directions to the lost traveller,
aiding the blind and
removing obstacles from the path.

(Graded authentic by Ibn Hajar and al-Albani: Hidaayat-ur-Ruwaah, 2/293)”
― Muhammad

“Muhammad has always been standing higher than the Christianity. He does not consider god as a human being and never makes himself equal to God. Muslims worship nothing except God and Muhammad is his Messenger. There is no any mystery and secret in it”
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“ما يصيب المسلم من نصب ولا وصب ولا همّ ولا حزن ولا أذى ولا غمّ - حتى الشوكة يشاكها - إلا كفّر الله بها مِن خطاياه
No fatigue, disease, sorrow, sadness, hurt or distress befalls a Muslim - not even the prick he receives from a thorn - except that Allah expiates some of his sins because of it. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 70, #545)”
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« Reply #1070 on: May 31, 2013, 10:05:21 AM »

“I challenge anyone to understand Islam, its spirit, and not to love it. It is a beautiful religion of brotherhood and devotion.”
― Yann Martel, Life of Pi


“I become more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of Hussein, the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers and his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle.”
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They must of really did a good job.

UK went from a nation in the early 1900's of couple hundred muslims to 3 million muslims in the UK now.

They were brilliant leaders,

Study shows Islam growing, Christianity declining in the UK


By: John Bingham

Source: telegraph.co.uk

A new analysis of the 2011 census shows that a decade of mass immigration helped mask the scale of decline in Christian affiliation among the British-born population – while driving a dramatic increase in Islam, particularly among the young.

It suggests that only a minority of people will describe themselves as Christians within the next decade, for first time.

Meanwhile almost one in 10 under 25s in Britain is now a Muslim.

The proportion of young people who describe themselves as even nominal Christians has dropped below half for the first time.

Initial results from the 2011 census published last year showed that the total number of people in England and Wales who described themselves as Christian fell by 4.1 million – a decline of 10 per cent.
But new analysis from the Office for National Statistics shows that that figure was bolstered by 1.2 million foreign-born Christians, including Polish Catholics and evangelicals from countries such as Nigeria.They disclosed that there were in fact 5.3 million fewer British-born people describing themselves as Christians, a decline of 15 per cent in just a decade.At the same time the number of Muslims in England and Wales surged by 75 per cent – boosted by almost 600,000 more foreign born followers of the Islamic faith.

While almost half of British Muslims are under the age of 25, almost a quarter of Christians are over 65.

The average age of a British Muslim is just 25, not far off half that of a British Christian.

Younger people also drove a shift away from religion altogether, with 6.4 million more people describing themselves as having no faith than 10 years earlier.

Secular campaigners said the new figures showed that Christianity had now dropped below “critical mass” making the case for disestablishing the Church of England stronger.

But the Church insisted that while there had been a significant drop in “nominal” Christians, the core of the Church remained firm.

Prof David Coleman, Professor of demography at Oxford University, said: “This is a very substantial change – it is difficult to see whether any other change in the census could have been remotely as big.

“But I wonder how far it reflects an overarching change in society where it is more acceptable more normal to say that you are not religious or are not Christian.”

Dr Fraser Watts, a Cambridge theologian, said it was “entirely possible” the people identifying themselves as Christians could become a minority within the next decade on the basis of the figures.

“It is still pretty striking and it is a worrying trend and confirms what anyone can observe – that in many churches the majority of the congregation are over 60,” he said.

Keith Porteous Wood, executive director of the National Secular Society, said the long-term reduction of Christianity, particularly among young people, was now “unstoppable”.

“In another 20 years there are going to be more active Muslims than there are churchgoers,” he said.

“The time has now come that institutional Christianity is no longer justified, the number has dropped below critical mass for which there is no longer any justification for the established Church, for example, or the monarch going through a religious ceremony at coronation.

“The expressions of optimism by the church are just completely misplaced.”

But a spokesman for the Church of England said: “These figures highlight the diversity of Christianity in this country today, something which has been increasing for decades and shows the relevance of Christianity to people from all backgrounds.

“These figures once again confirm that this remains a faithful nation and that the fall in the numbers identifying themselves as Christians is a challenge but – as you can see from the stability of Church of England attendance figures – the committed worshipping centre of the church remains firm.

“The challenge to the Church is to reconnect with the nominal.”
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« Reply #1072 on: May 31, 2013, 03:25:02 PM »

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The Hunt for Britain's Sex Gangs

It was the police investigation that stunned Britain. Young men of Pakistani heritage grooming young girls with the intention of abusing them, gang raping them and then trading them with other groups of men. How could it happen in modern Britain?

In part, the answer lies in a perverse form of reverse racism, where authorities that knew potential crimes were being committed would not acknowledge what was happening, fearful it would fuel a right-wing backlash and racial violence.

Fortunately, two people would not be put off. After working for more than a decade on what would become The Hunt for Britain's Sex Gangs, director/writer Anna Hall and reporter Tazeen Ahmad now tell the story of these shocking crimes.

In 2010, Telford police allowed them to start filming 'Operation Chalice'. It would become one of the biggest child sex abuse cases in Britain, involving over 100 victims, and around 200 suspected perpetrators.

The Hunt for Britain's Sex Gangs follows - with unprecedented access - a live police investigation, showing just how difficult it is to secure justice for victims of sexual abuse, some as young as 11.

Gaining the trust of victims - who, as a result of the grooming process, don't see themselves as victims - is key to the success of the case. But it takes months for the police to win their trust and keep them on board as they prepare for the harrowing process of going to court.

As the police work with the young girls, they begin to understand a vicious cycle of grooming. It starts with flattery and friendship, then moves on to a more overtly sexual relationship and finally becomes exploitative, as the groomers pass the girls around their networks of friends and family for sex. Ultimately, seven men are convicted and jailed, bringing to an end a gruelling three year police investigation.

'The Hunt for Britain's Sex Gangs', produced by True Vision and presented by Kerry O'Brien, goes to air on Monday 3rd June at 8.30pm on ABC1. It is repeated on Tuesday 4th June at 11.35pm. It can also be seen on ABC News 24 at 8.00pm on Saturday or ABC iview


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« Reply #1073 on: May 31, 2013, 03:34:51 PM »

^Has more to do with south asians like pakistanis adopting western culture of sexualism, aloholism, clubbing, pubbing, etc... rather than Islam which prohibits rape, prohibits pre-marital sex, prohibits out of wedlock sex, prohibits alcohol, prohibits pre-marital relations, promotes segregation of genders, etc... which would prevent these issues.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3036789/#52043561

One of the signs of the hour is men not working and staying as stay at home dads and women working and being heads of households and not taking care of their families.

It's funny how he says "men are WEAK WEAK now a days in their twenties, they cannot marry, they just play games".
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