oh lol freedom of speech.
Yes. Freedom of speech.
In the UK blah blah blah
I don't live in the UK, so it's not my concern, but it's hardly a bastion of freedom; they already live in an almost totalitarian society, that, in my opinion, is simply incompatible with "western ideals." They just dress it up with fancy hats.
Even in Canada, some dude bought CDs with stories of the prophets which was by Anwar Al-Awlaki. He was a police officer even and not even that a practicing muslim. The police raiding his home and quesitoned him what his 'ties to al-qaeada and anwar al awlaki' are. Even though the lecture series is purely about exactly what the title says, the stories of the prophets.
If this happened (and although I only have your word for it, but given the insanity that's recently taken over I don't think it's far-fetched that it did actually happen) he was still able to buy those stories and listen to them and talk about them. As for the stupid overreaction by police it's flat out contemptible and incompatible with "western ideals."
In France. Try as an exercise of freedom of speech being pro hitler or pro nazis, or anti-jews, or denying the holocaust. You'll be jailed, fined, lose your job, amongst other things for advocating hate speech. Denial of holocaust is a law.
I consider such laws ridiculous and an insult. I don't think they are compatible with "western ideals".
Recently ANOTHER 'comic' was posted in a satirical magazine that mocks religion in france. It was allowed on grounds of 'freedom of speech', but protests were clamped down even though they were peaceful and people arrested for speaking out. So much for freedom of speech.
Prior evidence suggests that such protests are hardly peaceful. But let's assume, arguendo, that the protests were, indeed, peaceful. If so, then "clamping down" on them is an insult to "western ideals" and the concept of freedom of speech.
Or how about Muslim women being banned from wearing hijab. Or how about niqabis who are banned from wearing niqab outside. They get fined and jailed. "Freedom of expression"
I consider most such laws to be ridiculous, insulting and flat out incompatible with "western ideals." With few exceptions (e.g. pictures for driver's licenses, passports and such, in the absence of other biometric identifiers) I don't see any reason for the government prohibiting the wearing of such items.
In the US there's things that are labeled 'hate speech' that are not hate speech for example criticizing Israel. Yet slandering Islam is 'freedom of speech'. Slander is not criticism.
I disagree with the notion of hate speech, and would abolish it, if it were up to me. But in the United States hate speech isn't prohibited.
Freedom of speech SHOULD be restricted as hate speech is not freedom of speech, that's abuse of freedom of speech.
Repeat after me: the government should not be in the censorship business and shouldn't interfere with the people's right to free speech.
There's a reason there are laws relating to 'libel', slander of people, etc...
Libel and slander laws don't curtail one's freedom of speech.
but oh I know it will be argued its for 'living ppl only' well muslims are living even if our prophet (peace be upon him) passed away.
Actually, it's not true that it's for "living ppl only
", so what you know doesn't really have much bearing on reality.
There should internationally be a law against slander of religions, period. It is one thing to debate and criticize but to slander and demonize is a whole other issue.
No, there shouldn't be. Such "laws" are an insult to free people everywhere and a bad idea. A chain is forged with one link. Whether that link is a law against "slander of religions" or against "criticizing Israel" that link is a chain, and one that binds us all.
My freedom to speak isn't limited by your feelings. If what I say hurts your feelings, well... that's too fucking bad.
You're free to not listen or ignore my hurtful words.
It's such hypocricy. It is quite clear it is an all out attack on Islam and Muslims. Pretty sad. People see it for what it is. It won't last forever.
But attempting to gag people under penalty of law isn't sad?