Obama now promoting "New Economic Patriotism" LMFAO!!!!

[Kazan]

So why do you support the republicans again?

I don't support republicans, I support conservatives

[whork]

I don't support republicans, I support conservatives

They left the republican party years ago

[Soul Crusher]

They left the republican party years ago

and yet all the communists stayed in the democRAT party. 

[tonymctones]

More money for education, healthcare, infrastructure etc..

How is life going to be better with the top 1% owning even more than they already do

you do know that the proposed tax hikes would only run the govt for a few weeks right?

how much education you gonna get with that?

[tonymctones]

Higher taxes alone will not do the trick of course.

But i thought this was implied i forgot i was debating a child who just needs something to scream at to make himself feel better.

My bad.

higher taxes shouldnt even be an issue right now...

the govt spending should be front and center in this debate, thats the biggest problem not raising taxes that wont even fund the govt for a few months.

how is funding the govt for a few weeks/months going to help education?

thats assuming spending stays the same, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IT WONT!!!!

[whork]

higher taxes shouldnt even be an issue right now...

the govt spending should be front and center in this debate, thats the biggest problem not raising taxes that wont even fund the govt for a few months.

how is funding the govt for a few weeks/months going to help education?

thats assuming spending stays the same, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IT WONT!!!!

You now where governmenet spending comes from? Lobbyists.
How do they "lobby"? With cash.
Its all connected.
And why do you spend so much time defending the rich like a fucking parrot. Cant they speak for temselves?

[whork]

you do know that the proposed tax hikes would only run the govt for a few weeks right?

how much education you gonna get with that?

This doesnt make any sense.

You know how the $$ can only feed our dog 2 months right?

How long can our car drive on that?

[tonymctones]

You now where governmenet spending comes from? Lobbyists.
How do they "lobby"? With cash.
Its all connected.
And why do you spend so much time defending the rich like a fucking parrot. Cant they speak for temselves?

wow youre an idiot, how old are you whork just out of curiosity?

Im not defending the rich, im defending hard working ppl keeping their own money. I dont care how much they have or dont have.

why do you feel entitled to others money?

[tonymctones]

This doesnt make any sense.

You know how the $$ can only feed our dog 2 months right?

How long can our car drive on that?

again I dont know what to say to your idiocy.

the govt needs to fund itself before it can do anything else to fund other things. If they cant fund themselves how are they going to give money to you?

second the education department is part of the govt that needs funding, so if the taxes only extend the funding of the govt for weeks/months how does that help the education department increase money to education?

[whork]

wow youre an idiot, how old are you whork just out of curiosity?

Im not defending the rich, im defending hard working ppl keeping their own money. I dont care how much they have or dont have.

why do you feel entitled to others money?

And only rich people work for their money?

The middle class works a helluva lot harder for their money but you defend the rich

[whork]

again I dont know what to say to your idiocy.

the govt needs to fund itself before it can do anything else to fund other things. If they cant fund themselves how are they going to give money to you?

second the education department is part of the govt that needs funding, so if the taxes only extend the funding of the govt for weeks/months how does that help the education department increase money to education?

If we take you quote above then we should not spend anything on military, education, healthcare etc before our debt was zero.
Come back to the real world so we can debate.

[tonymctones]

And only rich people work for their money?

The middle class works a helluva lot harder for their money but you defend the rich

never said that, why cant they both keep their hard earned money?

thats the question retard...

why do you believe that the middle class works harder for their money?

[tonymctones]

If we take you quote above then we should not spend anything on military, education, healthcare etc before our debt was zero.
Come back to the real world so we can debate.

do you know what a strawman is whork, I seriously doubt you have a firm grasp on the concept but you just created a strawman and set fire to it.

its a typical obama tactic so maybe you just picked it up from him without knowing it.

cutting back on spending doesnt mean no spending, hope this helps but I doubt it will...

[whork]

never said that, why cant they both keep their hard earned money?

thats the question retard...

why do you believe that the middle class works harder for their money?

Because we have a friggin deficit.
Your ideology doesnt let you cope with reality

[whork]

never said that, why cant they both keep their hard earned money?

thats the question retard...

why do you believe that the middle class works harder for their money?

Because many rich have inherited wealth making everything easier compared to someone born in poverty

Education and bills no problem

[tonymctones]

Because we have a friggin deficit.
Your ideology doesnt let you cope with reality

what contributes more to the deficit whork, spending or lack of taxes on the rich?

[tonymctones]

Because many rich have inherited wealth making everything easier compared to someone born in poverty

Education and bills no problem

Please give the citation for your statement that many rich inherit their wealth.

Many rich make their wealth on there own as well, you should look at the number of millionaires from year to year.

[whork]

what contributes more to the deficit whork, spending or lack of taxes on the rich?

Spending obviously.

But spending covers a lot.

Healthcare
Military
etc etc

[whork]

Please give the citation for your statement that many rich inherit their wealth.

Many rich make their wealth on there own as well, you should look at the number of millionaires from year to year.

Yes but they usually make this wealth through investments stocks etc they dont make them sweating in a factory

[Kazan]

Because many rich have inherited wealth making everything easier compared to someone born in poverty

Education and bills no problem

So what? I hope that when I die, that I can pass on wealth to my kid.

[Kazan]

Yes but they usually make this wealth through investments stocks etc they dont make them sweating in a factory

Again, so what?

[whork]

So what? I hope that when I die, that I can pass on wealth to my kid.

Me too.

Its was a response to Tony claiming rich people work for their money and the middle class didnt.

My point was that if your are born with rich parents rather than poor it makes everything easier

[whork]

Again, so what?

So they make their money easier than the guy building our roads etc..

Read the posts in the thread to get the full picture its hard when you just read one responds and comment on it

[tonymctones]

Yes but they usually make this wealth through investments stocks etc they dont make them sweating in a factory

please give me your proof of this?

Me too.

Its was a response to Tony claiming rich people work for their money and the middle class didnt.

My point was that if your are born with rich parents rather than poor it makes everything easier

so mentally challenging work that is less physical is easier then physically challenging work that is less mental?

thats your assertion?

[tonymctones]

Spending obviously.

But spending covers a lot.

Healthcare
Military
etc etc

if you can agree that spending is the true problem then why not rant and rave about spending before you rant and rave about taxes?