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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #75 on: October 09, 2012, 12:48:00 PM »
Hahaha@ syntax trying to act all smart n shit. Lol

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #76 on: October 09, 2012, 12:50:11 PM »
Interesting, so you think I just throw programs together without know why? This isn't bodybuilding Jr.

Why would I have a speed athlete complete 1RM's? Because as I've said a million times, speed starts in the weight room, not on a field, speed technique is on the field. You can't get more explosive or faster by just running. In order to develop speed you have to develop power, harder you can apply POWER to the ground by driving that foot under your hip, the faster you'll go. Not only that it takes a lot of power not only to explode in a lineal run, it's takes even more to change direction when in a stride. If athletes are weak in just one area, start looking for on field, non-collision injuries to happen. There ya go, in a nut shell. Anymore questions smartass?




you're a fool

plyometrics and proper track training would go a lot farther

additionally some crossfit style or olympic powerlifting movements can add value...


please name a professional soccer player who does 1RM squats


please insist that your 'athletes' get a second opinion and read some basic training protocols

http://www.menshealth.com/worldcup/oguchi-onyewu.php

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #77 on: October 09, 2012, 12:55:56 PM »

you're a fool

plyometrics and proper track training would go a lot farther

additionally some crossfit style or olympic powerlifting movements can add value...


please name a professional soccer player who does 1RM squats


please insist that your 'athletes' get a second opinion and read some basic

http://www.menshealth.com/worldcup/oguchi-onyewu.php


Haha, holy shit. Haha. Like we don't do plyos. Ok, so you're one of those who just think track work and plyos is all you need. Lol. Btw, don't cite men's fitness as a reference. You need to keep up with the times, son.

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #78 on: October 09, 2012, 12:59:23 PM »
Haha, holy shit. Haha. Like we don't do plyos. Ok, so you're one of those who just think track work and plyos is all you need. Lol. Btw, don't site men's fitness as a reference.

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wrong homophone there champ

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #79 on: October 09, 2012, 01:01:58 PM »
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wrong homophone there champ

Look again genius, I caught it and corrected it

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #80 on: October 09, 2012, 01:04:53 PM »
Look again genius, I caught it and corrected it


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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #81 on: October 09, 2012, 01:20:23 PM »
additionally some crossfit style or olympic powerlifting movements can add value...

I don't know where to start...

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #82 on: October 09, 2012, 01:31:27 PM »
I found I can lift 100lbs over my deadlift with a trap bar. First the handles are higher than a barbell. The position also gives you a better pulling position.

That seems about right, most lifters I've watched get #75 - 100.

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what have you heard about olympic lifters and knee injuries?  seems like the bouncing off the bottom of the movement can't be good on your knees long term.

Mostly tendinitis -

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1322916/ .

That study also links off to others, osteoarthritis is a big one for heavier classes later in life, but it pretty common in all active sports.

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #83 on: October 09, 2012, 01:32:31 PM »

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #84 on: October 09, 2012, 03:29:20 PM »
id be impressed if it was barbell.

either way for your body,although its trap bar,still i nice pull.

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #85 on: October 09, 2012, 03:59:08 PM »
From today....




I believe that kid hit the bench too hard.

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #86 on: October 09, 2012, 04:00:25 PM »
I seem to remember that their knee injury rates aren't that alarming, but can't say for sure. Just remember some trainers saying their knees aren't that bad off, all things considering, especially compared to other athletes.

Maybe The Coach knows.

No I'm sure you're right.

What do you do specifically for lower back?

We do a variety of moves. GHR, reverse hyper, RDL, 1RDL, keg carries, Kettle Bell swings (as well as other KB exercises), jump band good mornings, etc.

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #87 on: October 09, 2012, 04:01:09 PM »
I believe that kid hit the bench too hard.

He actually barely hit it..

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #88 on: October 09, 2012, 04:04:59 PM »

you're a fool

plyometrics and proper track training would go a lot farther

additionally some crossfit style or olympic powerlifting movements can add value...


please name a professional soccer player who does 1RM squats


please insist that your 'athletes' get a second opinion and read some basic training protocols

http://www.menshealth.com/worldcup/oguchi-onyewu.php



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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #89 on: October 09, 2012, 04:06:01 PM »
I would say he hit it slightly harder than I would have liked to see.

Not criticising your work or technique etc just very easy to hurt yourself doing box squats with one moment of carelessness.

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #90 on: October 09, 2012, 04:07:22 PM »
I would say he hit it slightly harder than I would have liked to see.

Not criticising your work or technique etc just very easy to hurt yourself doing box squats with one moment of carelessness.

I completely understand and agree.

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #91 on: October 09, 2012, 04:09:20 PM »
We do a variety of moves. GHR, reverse hyper, RDL, 1RDL, keg carries, Kettle Bell swings (as well as other KB exercises), jump band good mornings, etc.

can I recommend the high windmill if you don't already do it:



I found this exercise after you very helpfully diagnosed me with QL strain.  Back has been bulletproof ever since.

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #93 on: October 09, 2012, 04:13:24 PM »
I have tried pressing KB's

Repping 48's and 52's is easy but 56 is heaviest I have done.

If you are strong you will be good at them but technique (which i greatly lack) is where I fall down. I have done them maybe 6 times in my life for a few sets.

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #94 on: October 09, 2012, 04:14:33 PM »
Please don't call this a deadlift. Shame on you Coach.

Even the handles are higher off the ground, not to mention the line of pull. If he pulled 4x his bodyweight like this it would be pretty good.
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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #95 on: October 09, 2012, 04:23:03 PM »
Please don't call this a deadlift. Shame on you Coach.

Even the handles are higher off the ground, not to mention the line of pull. If he pulled 4x his bodyweight like this it would be pretty good.

Very rarely will you see a straight bar DL in a college setting. There's a reason for that.



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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #96 on: October 09, 2012, 04:31:37 PM »
i bet half of the jagoffs on this board couldn't pull that without straps...

still a midget lift though

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #97 on: October 09, 2012, 04:48:31 PM »
Such garbage, fuckin modified compact deadlift.
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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #98 on: October 09, 2012, 04:49:18 PM »
Such garbage, fuckin modified compact deadlift.

video of you pulling 425 unassisted on a straight bar or it didn't happen

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Re: 425lb DL at 153lbs
« Reply #99 on: October 09, 2012, 04:58:39 PM »
Very rarely will you see a straight bar DL in a college setting. There's a reason for that.




Maybe watch some of cresseys videos on how to Trap bar correctly. YOUR athletes will get faster doing them properly and not turning them into a sumo squat