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PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« on: October 13, 2012, 12:52:01 PM »
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Of course we know the real reason for this is his ruptured liver adenoma which is caused by steroids in men and grows because of continued drug use

Pretty clever of them to spin it this way
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2012, 12:59:57 PM »
i see singerman's going off his HRT...

not the smartest idea in the world thats for sure.

HRT is for, LASTLY, muscle...LASTLY.

going off when u have hypogonadism is thin ice. Serious mental rollercoaster and possible train wreck.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2012, 01:11:39 PM »
he'll still be 250 withotu trying.   these dudes have world class genetics to go with incredible work ethic.
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2012, 01:13:36 PM »
Quote from: disco_stu on October 13, 2012, 12:59:57 PM
i see singerman's going off his HRT...

not the smartest idea in the world thats for sure.

HRT is for, LASTLY, muscle...LASTLY.

going off when u have hypogonadism is thin ice. Serious mental rollercoaster and possible train wreck.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Will put fat on like crazy to
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2012, 01:19:41 PM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on October 13, 2012, 01:11:39 PM
he'll still be 250 withotu trying.   these dudes have world class genetics to go with incredible work ethic.

The sarcasm is Inspiring

PJ had to go off.
The bullshit spin they gave about a ruptured blood vessel in his liver is laughable
I do hepatobiliary work for a living

He has a ruptured adenoma.
A liver tumor caused by steroids in men
Incredibly rare in men but almost always due to steroids

They can become cancer, grow and rupture again

He is smart to finally go off

Singerman is a good friend to spin it this way
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2012, 01:27:52 PM »
at least he has his muscle gallery pics to look back on
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2012, 01:52:56 PM »
Quote from: RustyTrenbolona on October 13, 2012, 01:27:52 PM
at least he has his muscle gallery pics to look back on

many bodybuilders don't have pics taken when they're in their prime.   

Decades from now, they won't have a nice detailed record of their physique in its finest hour. 

smart dude to save artful images in peak shape - make the grandkids proud (and jealous!)
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2012, 01:54:56 PM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on October 13, 2012, 01:52:56 PM
many bodybuilders don't have pics taken when they're in their prime.   

Decades from now, they won't have a nice detailed record of their physique in its finest hour. 

smart dude to save artful images in peak shape - make the grandkids proud (and jealous!)
except they wont have grandkids.
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2012, 02:05:58 PM »
Quote from: uberman on October 13, 2012, 01:54:56 PM
except they wont have grandkids.

you'd be surprised what hcg and other drugs can do. Also being the typical whiny bitch that you are, you are significantly underestimating the ability of the human body to recover.
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2012, 02:07:44 PM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on October 13, 2012, 01:52:56 PM
many bodybuilders don't have pics taken when they're in their prime.   

Decades from now, they won't have a nice detailed record of their physique in its finest hour. 

smart dude to save artful images in peak shape - make the grandkids proud (and jealous!)

All he will have left is his pics

He will have to stop all anabolics at least if he follows his doctors advice

Those liver tumors can become malignant and rupture again
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2012, 02:26:17 PM »
Quote from: ether on October 13, 2012, 02:07:44 PM
All he will have left is his pics

He will have to stop all anabolics at least if he follows his doctors advice

Those liver tumors can become malignant and rupture again

scary stuff.   do the steroids have that on the warning labels?  Sounds like he shoud get a lawyer and sue the company that makes these defective steroidses.
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2012, 02:32:20 PM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on October 13, 2012, 02:26:17 PM
scary stuff.   do the steroids have that on the warning labels?  Sounds like he shoud get a lawyer and sue the company that makes these defective steroidses.

Well I'm more surprised his doctor Dave Palumbo didn't warn him
Some friend he is
I guess he figured PJs kidneys are already fried so why bother investing time if he can't use him as a potential donor
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2012, 02:50:29 PM »
These two idiots need to get a real job. FILT!
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2012, 02:55:34 PM »
they'll barely drop the dosage then claim natural
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2012, 03:43:41 PM »
Quote from: ether on October 13, 2012, 02:32:20 PM
Well I'm more surprised his doctor Dave Palumbo didn't warn him
Some friend he is
I guess he figured PJs kidneys are already fried so why bother investing time if he can't use him as a potential donor

How do you know this? Are you just speculating or do you actually have evidence that he has a tumor in his liver?
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2012, 03:46:24 PM »
not gonna click on the link,

rxmucle is full of virus

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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2012, 04:15:36 PM »
LMAO at 240´s comments  :)
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2012, 04:33:34 PM »
Quote from: AlphaMaleDawg on October 13, 2012, 03:43:41 PM
How do you know this? Are you just speculating or do you actually have evidence that he has a tumor in his liver?

Call it a weekend of experience
I've been practicing hepatobiliary care for 6 years
In that time I've seen countless ruptured liver tumors
Only two of them were young men both on anabolics and both with path proven adenoma

I'm not trying to be a jerk just pointing out facts

Ruptured liver lesion in young man on AAS = adenoma
Adenoma can progress to carcinoma unchecked, rare but possible
Bigger risk is growth and rupture

Obviously he finally got good advice and is going off permanently
The 3 month thing is just to help him cope
Aaron is spinning it for him when he shrinks down to the skinny twink he probably really is
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2012, 05:12:06 PM »
Quote from: Nomad on October 13, 2012, 02:05:58 PM
you'd be surprised what hcg and other drugs can do. Also being the typical whiny bitch that you are, you are significantly underestimating the ability of the human body to recover.
NICE!!!
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2012, 05:15:32 PM »
Quote from: ether on October 13, 2012, 04:33:34 PM
Call it a weekend of experience
I've been practicing hepatobiliary care for 6 years
In that time I've seen countless ruptured liver tumors
Only two of them were young men both on anabolics and both with path proven adenoma

I'm not trying to be a jerk just pointing out facts

Ruptured liver lesion in young man on AAS = adenoma
Adenoma can progress to carcinoma unchecked, rare but possible
Bigger risk is growth and rupture

Obviously he finally got good advice and is going off permanently
The 3 month thing is just to help him cope
Aaron is spinning it for him when he shrinks down to the skinny twink he probably really is

shit I just realized a report came out a couple months ago that PJ had health problems. I haven't been on getbig in 6 months so now I am an unaware fuck
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2012, 05:17:58 PM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on October 13, 2012, 01:52:56 PM
many bodybuilders don't have pics taken when they're in their prime.   

Decades from now, they won't have a nice detailed record of their physique in its finest hour. 

smart dude to save artful images in peak shape - make the grandkids proud (and jealous!)


Namat at least has "the namat way" to look back on
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2012, 05:32:19 PM »
What will happen is they will be taking MORE drugs during this time.

I saw Aaron mention "osta-rx" and this is a SARM, basically an anabolic steroid, if I'm not mistaken.
I didn't research it but I wonder what the liver impact of this compound will be. This with SERMs and whatever the else they will be taking and PJs liver will probably be even unhappier.
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2012, 05:36:34 PM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on October 13, 2012, 01:11:39 PM
he'll still be 250 withotu trying.   these dudes have world class genetics to go with incredible work ethic.

all drugs dumbass
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2012, 05:45:29 PM »
 Most lesions of the liver are caused from oral anabolic abuse.. This condition can be avoided usually by sticking to Injectable.. I don't get how he did not know his..
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Re: PJ Braun finally going off AAS to save his liver
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2012, 05:45:41 PM »
He will go back on the drugs once whatever ailment he has is gone.

Look at DA  :-\ :-\
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