deca,sus,gh

[jonnybig]

I was wondering if any of you guys have ever tried a higher dose of deca with a lower dose of tes Im thinking of running 600mg of deca a week and 250 of sustanon a week I just want to try this to see how I respond to it im not looking for bulk but want to hardon up a bit im also going to run 2 or 3 I.u.s of growth a day im going to run a lower dose of this for a longer period because im using the groth for fatloss

[Luv2Hurt]

Very BAD idea.  Deca is kind of tricky. I mean the combo of sus, deca and gh is a good one, it's just your dosing I would change.

750mg sust WK
500mg deca wk
2-4 iu  GH ED
AI (aromatase inhibitor)

Even though personally I would not include the GH. JMO

[jonnybig]

im going torun the higher deca because I dont like the bloat I get with test and I rerspond well to deca and it doesnt effect me too bad after a cycle with it

[mem]

I am doing this exact (very effective) combo - with no real bloat.
However, I am actually doing it with 1000 mgs of test a week with
400 mgs of deca, 3 ius of HgH ed of my 16 week program.
(I've added 300 mgs of EQ/200 mgs of Primo the final 8 weeks)

NOT using any estrogen blockers or better estrogen agonist
IS MORE LIKELY the reason you are (likely) getting bloat.

Or some where hidden (or extra sodium) in the diet.
If I eat (too much) fast food or pre-pared food like
at a convention or resort (for business meetings)
I will get bloat . . . guaranteed.

Don't lower your test - NOT a good idea as already defined . . . Test IS NOT THE PROBLEM.

And as you already know HgH (is known for having) bloat or some
sort of strange edema that most often translate to muscle fullness.
That typically will result in carpel tunnel and (force me) to stop GH
(to take a break) for a couple of days.

My body (composition) fat is already low and these influences are apparent.
What IS your body composition like right now?
Are you *over weight* and trying to diet down?

[Jdoug]

I was wondering if any of you guys have ever tried a higher dose of deca with a lower dose of tes Im thinking of running 600mg of deca a week and 250 of sustanon a week I just want to try this to see how I respond to it im not looking for bulk but want to hardon up a bit im also going to run 2 or 3 I.u.s of growth a day im going to run a lower dose of this for a longer period because im using the groth for fatloss

JDOUG PIMP OUT CHANGES

DECA 400 MG      TEST E 750 MG       DROP THE GH

[jonnybig]

im not over weight  I eat cleaner than anyone I can think of I eat no sugar very light sodium can tell you what my body fat is I do cardio everyday and I eat only what is necessary  probably not enough actually but Im going to run the growth no matter what because Ive seen a few guys who have used the brand I got and after a few weeks you could tell a huge difference in them  I usually run either nolvadex or clomid but I still tend to hold bloat for some reason

[mem]

Hey jonnybig . . . I appreciate your (candor and) honesty . . . and response.

I was NOT trying to bust you balls (or appear snotty), more of a (background or) context thing.
EG asking you about body comp and diet. I travel a lot, am stuck with poor food options, like
too low of protien (high sodium) in many cases and am accustomed to considering this . . .

Go for the growth brother! I have been using (off and on) for 5 years now.
Major remodel of my overall physique - seems to cut (define) me
more with each cycle (more so than) just make me bigger . . .
Most shudder at prospect of growth due to cost and lack of familiarity.

Personal - BUT - genetic predisposition - to hypertension/sodium - IT DOES run in my family
does it (potentially) run in your family . . . cardiovascular and renal issues in general.

I have benefit from inclusion foods groups which are higher in potassium (off setting sodium)
help me to balance this and I also drink a lot of green tea (balance water).

My principle challenge with higher test (for me - 1000mgs a week) is more being high strung
and metabolically kranked and needing xanax (or like) to knock the edge off. Another story.

Best of luck with your choices and program - keep US in the loop on your progress.

Mike
 

[DIVISION]

I was wondering if any of you guys have ever tried a higher dose of deca with a lower dose of tes Im thinking of running 600mg of deca a week and 250 of sustanon a week I just want to try this to see how I respond to it im not looking for bulk but want to hardon up a bit im also going to run 2 or 3 I.u.s of growth a day im going to run a lower dose of this for a longer period because im using the groth for fatloss

I agree with Luv2Hurt...

You need to keep your Test:Deca ration at least 3:2, preferably 2:1

500mg Sust ew
400mg Deca ew
3 iu  GH ED
Arimidex 1MG eod

If you don't keep your Test higher than your Deca you may be susceptible to DECADICK sides.



DIV

[jonnybig]

cool