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[Natural Man]

I get told by quite a few people that I am being selfish in my decision to not have kids. I never wanted them, my wife has never wanted them and we have a very happy relationship. I don't get the 'selfish' part at all. I chose a woman who shared my attitude. I don't think the world is a better place these days than it was before and I would be pretty concerned about bringing a child into it.

We donate monthly to charity and volunteer every week at the local animal shelter. I hope I'm making a small difference in whatever ways that I can. Doesn't seem to make any difference to those people who think I'm 'selfish' though. Go figure....

dear genius, what s going to happen if everyone thinks like you? i d like to read your answer about this, it s going to be funny.

[TommyBoy]

I thought this statement was common sense and part of the reason that statistically more and more people and choosing this route in life? The statement about "having everything or kids" is true as hell. My wife and I have a three year old, make close to a quarter a year, and still drive economical vehicles with a modest home. Don't get me wrong, we are living pretty well and we know it, but we see co-workers without kids and the sort of toys they have are nuts. The amount of 70-100k vehicles where I work is pretty absurd.

[Natural Man]

lol at pretending having kids prevent you from "having a fun fulfiling life". Incredibly stupid argument, attempt to justify your lack of maturity.
What about our countless generations of ancestors.. their living conditions were inconceivably worse than ours yet they managed to have kids... they loved life and understood it, nowadays our spoiled egotistical youths swimming in addictions drugs and confort are "disgusted" by life, as true anus says it.
It's your choice to not reproduce.
You make this choice, because of your own "beliefs". You could also make the choice to have an offspring...

But dont pretend it's for some bullshit philosophical reason to try to hide the fact you re just a scared pussy who ve been raised to only care about his sorry ass and who isnt able to care for anyone else but himself and his stupid dogs.

Again good news if you dont want to have an offspring, at least my own kids wont have to face your hainous, self hating nihilistic kids. There are enough of them already.

[POB]

where do you live where mental patients go on shopping sprees?

Lol

[POB]

I have a buddy, and him and his wife don't have and don't want kids.  He told me, "you can have everything, or you can have kids" so they picked no kids.  While I will agree that it is somewhat true, I would rather have kids.  I have one on the way, and it is a bit frightening though.

Plus they can fuck in the living room,once you have kids that won't happen anymore 

[Shockwave]

But dont pretend it's for some bullshit philosophical reason to try to hide the fact you re just a scared pussy who ve been raised to only care about his sorry ass and who isnt able to care for anyone else but himself and his stupid dogs.

Im having a kid and I'm scared absolutely shitless. I guess moreso about being responsible for this new humans upbringing and the possibility of failing and destroying an innocent life.

[The True Adonis]

lol at pretending having kids prevent you from "having a fun fulfiling life". Incredibly stupid argument, attempt to justify your lack of maturity.
What about our countless generations of ancestors.. their living conditions when inconceivably worse than ours yet they managed to have kids... they loved life and understood it, nowadays our spoiled egotistical youths are "disgusted" by life, as true anus says it.
It's your choice.
You make this choice.

But dont pretend it's for some bullshit philosophical reason to try to hide the fact you re just a scared pussy who ve been raised to only care about his sorry ass and who isnt able to care for anyone else but himself and his stupid dogs.

Again good news if you dont want to have an offspring, at least my own kids wont have to face your hainous, self hating nihilistic kids. There are enough of them already.

I love the Universe, so much that having children would ruin the experience for me.  You have a small, rathter provincial mind, live a bit below average and have a child.  Why would anyone choose that is beyond me.

[The True Adonis]

Im having a kid and I'm scared absolutely shitless. I guess moreso about being responsible for this new humans upbringing and the possibility of failing and destroying an innocent life.

You`ll be fine as long as you don`t bring religion into any of it. 

[Natural Man]

Im having a kid and I'm scared absolutely shitless. I guess moreso about being responsible for this new humans upbringing and the possibility of failing and destroying an innocent life.

having kids is understanding 50% of life. You dont just exist to answer to your desires/needs, you have to put someone s else survival before everything else, including you.

[The True Adonis]

having kids is understanding 50% of life. You dont just exist to answer to your desires/needs, you have to put someone s else survival before everything else, including you.

Nope.  We are all merely a by product of dying stars.  Well in your case, you are merely your unfortunate dad`s broken condom, nothing more.

[The True Adonis]

Perhaps Uberman will explain the completely dysfunctional and broken home he came from.  I know the whole story about him, but I refuse to embarrass him.  Perhaps he will one day enlighten us all. 

[Natural Man]

lol at criticizing religion, when the fact you ended being an immature, spoiled buffoon living off someone else money and who declares that kids are "disgusting", is precisely due to the fact you re the product of family that abandonned faith.

[The True Adonis]

uberman should use his superior intellect and philosophical insights to advance his career and get out of the poor house

Not going to happen.  His station in life is pretty much permanent at this point.  No prospects of upward mobility.  Therefore, he turns to Jesus because he believes that the only upward mobility that will occur is when he is dead.

Sad to live your life that way.

[The True Adonis]

but why

cant he at least become FLM in his shitty factory instead of braindead assembly line worker

Why would they bother giving him that option?  They know he needs this job or else its over for him.  They don`t have to give him anything more at this point for him to keep showing up.  There is no threat of him leaving so there is no reason to placate him.

[snx]

Im having a kid and I'm scared absolutely shitless. I guess moreso about being responsible for this new humans upbringing and the possibility of failing and destroying an innocent life.

If you search your soul, you'll find that the true cause of your fear is the fact that you will have to give yourself, truly and utterly, to the concept of unconditional love. The rarest of all forms of emotion, I believe.

Few men truly, and unapologetically, love their wives unconditionally. After all, if she cheats on you, wouldn't you divorce her? Hence, you do not love her unconditionally. Your love for her is based on her ability to remain faithful, for example. A condition.

Love for children from capable parents knows no such bounds. I love my children unconditionally. There is nothing they could ever do to change that. Nothing at all. Come up with the most ridiculous, barbaric, out-of-this-world thing they could do to make me hate them, and I couldn't it. I will always love them. They could fire a shotgun into my face and I would love them with my dying breath.

Giving yourself over to unconditional love is truly scary. It means you no longer have control of your emtions. You now realize that a great portion of your own happiness depends greatly on the success and happiness and health of your child. As your child goes, so do you. Therefore, their very existence has the ability to enrich yours, or tear it to pieces if something happens to them. That is truly scary for the primarily narcissistic male (which, as bodybuilders, most of us naturally are). Good luck wrestling with those emotions.

It will not get easier. But, it is what it is.

[Natural Man]

turd anus, your religion is your material goods and your little everyday pleasures. You ll never go past that point, especially considering your age.
People like you are described in the Bible as sinners.
Lol at pretending to be a "hunter" "gatherer" lol... go hunt and gather cookies in your kitchen before your masochistic gf goes back home with the money.

[The True Adonis]

turd anus, your religion is your material goods and your little pleasures. People like you are described in the Bible as sinners.
Lol at pretending to be a "hunter" "gatherer" lol... go hunt and gather cookies in your kitchen before your masochistic gf goes back home with the money.

Actually Jezebelle and I are going to gather up a Pork Shoulder and slow roast here in a little while.  Then she will entertain me by trying on various outfits while we await our feast.

[OTHstrong]

We are too selfish.  Perhaps Jezebelle and I are just hard wired in the brain to be hunter/killer/gatherer rather than child raiser.  Both of us have never ever felt any desire whatsoever to have children.  We both can`t even look at them without being grossed out.  Its probably a strange concept for most to grasp, but I suspect there are many out there like us who feel that way but are just too frightened to say it.

HA, on top of being a coward and a rat you just admitted being a scumbag too, good to know, Jezebelle what an evil fucken name.

[Natural Man]

ha that is quite sad

to live such a life is slavery of the brainless drones


i worked as such a drone for a year and it is horrible horrible on your self esteem and it apparently puts your brain power and need for self actualization in a dormant state, looking at people who had been there for years i noticed this

these suckers actually look forward to retirement

everyday they say "almost weekend" they easily repeat this phrase 50 times a week

i pitty them

the living dead

hahahaha. You think you re smarter than everyone else dont you. I bet you feel unique and original with your reasoning right? Another self proclaimed "alpha male" i see.

Someone will have a tough time when he reaches his 50s...if he reaches them.

[Natural Man]

ha ok, staying at the lowest possible level of labor is the secret to success at age 50

thanks for another secret of life

you re completely oblivious to a lot of things it seems. There are too many people , not enough jobs, and more automatized machines and robots. The real question is not "what's the best paying job", but "am i going to have a job". Looks like you re living in another era or just unaware of some modern realities, which proves again that you re not only clueless about faith, kids, ownership, but also on employment and the deep changes that are coming worldwide.

[Voice of Doom]

Everyone should follow Jesus's example when it comes to having kids.

[James28]

We are too selfish.  Perhaps Jezebelle and I are just hard wired in the brain to be hunter/killer/gatherer rather than child raiser.  Both of us have never ever felt any desire whatsoever to have children.  We both can`t even look at them without being grossed out.  Its probably a strange concept for most to grasp, but I suspect there are many out there like us who feel that way but are just too frightened to say it.

I completely understand where you're coming from. While I don't feel grossed out by them, I just feel totally indifferent and very thankful that they're not mine. I've thought about kids in my early 20's, and saw no use for having them. Same in my late 20's and now in my early 30's, I REALLY see no use for them. Maybe it's a strange concept to understand for a lot of people but why on earth would I spend 100's of thousands and the best years of my life raising and guiding these irrelevant little people? Just thinking about it tires me out. Some scum bags I know tells me it's for their genes to continue. I'd look them up and down and think ... sure, the world really needs another short, ugly, bald unsuccessful insignificant nobody. At least if there were something of use about these people, I could understand why it's good to procreate, but for the majority, they have no business continuing their genes.

[ilalin]

Everyone should follow Jesus's example when it comes to having kids.

Official or non-official (probably true) example?

[Irongrip400]

I thought this statement was common sense and part of the reason that statistically more and more people and choosing this route in life? The statement about "having everything or kids" is true as hell. My wife and I have a three year old, make close to a quarter a year, and still drive economical vehicles with a modest home. Don't get me wrong, we are living pretty well and we know it, but we see co-workers without kids and the sort of toys they have are nuts. The amount of 70-100k vehicles where I work is pretty absurd.

Woah, it's as if you're a gimmick of mine three years from now

[Irongrip400]

Im having a kid and I'm scared absolutely shitless. I guess moreso about being responsible for this new humans upbringing and the possibility of failing and destroying an innocent life.

Yeah, I'm a few months behind you on the kid thing, mine's due in April, and will checking in on you from time to time about the subject.  It's crazy to think, that a few things you do at an early age to the child , can affect it and others for the rest of its life.  Like the butterfly effect.  Spank your kid at 2, he ends up mowing down people in a theatre at 20.  Good luck man.