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Re: Islamic insecurities ?
« Reply #425 on: November 01, 2012, 03:46:29 PM »
I do not beleive it is universal and dont use it as a excuse for violence
No most don't but many do

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Re: Islamic insecurities ?
« Reply #426 on: November 01, 2012, 03:55:31 PM »

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Re: Islamic insecurities ?
« Reply #427 on: November 01, 2012, 04:01:40 PM »
Good points.The verses were only revealed, and i couldnt find any evidence that the idol worshippers were actually killed, the numbers killed etc.

The  veres doesnt give any right for a muslim to take the verse and use it for there own purposes.

Sometimes you may read something in the koran, and maybe later on you may find that verse has been overtaken or nulled by another verse.

for example, back in the days, the arabs and muslims use to drink alcohol, later on, they were forbidden to drink alcohol when they were praying.Then later on, islam forbade alcohol.

onetimehard is correct in that some muslims do believe this verse is a command from Allah as real today as it was in the past. 

I've heard both interpretations, the historical context and the universal nature of the verse.  The problem is determining which Muslims you may encounter that relate that verse in the context of history or that find out that I'm a Christian and proceed to behead me.

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« Reply #428 on: November 01, 2012, 04:08:21 PM »
onetimehard is correct in that some muslims do believe this verse is a command from Allah as real today as it was in the past. 

I've heard both interpretations, the historical context and the universal nature of the verse.  The problem is determining which Muslims you may encounter that relate that verse in the context of history or that find out that I'm a Christian and proceed to behead me.
Precisely, a very dangerous verse indeed, it has already resulted in millions of deaths to date.

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« Reply #429 on: November 01, 2012, 04:14:51 PM »
onetimehard is correct in that some muslims do believe this verse is a command from Allah as real today as it was in the past. 

I've heard both interpretations, the historical context and the universal nature of the verse.  The problem is determining which Muslims you may encounter that relate that verse in the context of history or that find out that I'm a Christian and proceed to behead me.

At the end of the day, i take islam from prophet Mohammed and his lord.I mentioned this here before, i dont care if every muslim in the world stole, cheated, killed etc, doesnt make it right.When i die, God is not going to ask me about other muslims mischeifs, he is going to ask about me and how i lived my life and how i protected and treated my family and friends.

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Re: Islamic insecurities ?
« Reply #430 on: November 01, 2012, 04:25:31 PM »
At the end of the day, i take islam from prophet Mohammed and his lord.I mentioned this here before, i dont care if every muslim in the world stole, cheated, killed etc, doesnt make it right.When i die, God is not going to ask me about other muslims mischeifs, he is going to ask about me and how i lived my life and how i protected and treated my family and friends.

It's absolutely your free choice to do so.

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« Reply #431 on: November 01, 2012, 04:34:58 PM »
No most don't but many do

Why do you lie?

No Muslim does if they know the context. You obviously didn't even know the context, the last person to actually be credible in 'what many muslim do'

Likewise with the verse "kill them wherever you find them" it is not even the whole verse lol. And again in your pathetic desperatoin at least you could hve quoted what comes right after in that verse. It not only says accept terms of peace but it says escort people to place of safety!

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« Reply #432 on: November 01, 2012, 04:36:03 PM »
Precisely, a very dangerous verse indeed, it has already resulted in millions of deaths to date.

The united states and the various governments that have killed over a milloin Muslims in the middle east and africa are not following these verses.

Just a heads up in case you're a bit slow.

The verses in the bible on the other hand are far more dangerous as they LITERALLY say "have no mercy" kill em all, destroy everything. Not even animals are spared!

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« Reply #433 on: November 01, 2012, 04:40:37 PM »
The united states and the various governments that have killed over a milloin Muslims in the middle east and africa are not following these verses.

Just a heads up in case you're a bit slow.

Hopefully they kill many more.
Soon Europeans will collectively grow tired of you backwards cave men and you'll be one of the first to beg for your life when the reconquista happens. Remember what happened in Spain when the Asturian kingdoms brutally reconquered every lost province and expelled the lot of you under threat of a brutal death. That is your fate, and no amount of weasel words will save you.
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« Reply #434 on: November 01, 2012, 04:53:59 PM »
Hopefully they kill many more.
Soon Europeans will collectively grow tired of you backwards cave men and you'll be one of the first to beg for your life when the reconquista happens. Remember what happened in Spain when the Asturian kingdoms brutally reconquered every lost province and expelled the lot of you under threat of a brutal death. That is your fate, and no amount of weasel words will save you.

Yes, they came and killed all the jews and muslims and forcefully converted them to chrsitianity. That's where the 'crypto-jews' term comes from. Hiding your faith in public.

Brilliant european savages. When European savages came to spain they thought they were in another world. As Spain had running street lights while most of europe was living in mud houses.

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« Reply #435 on: November 01, 2012, 04:54:03 PM »
Why do you lie?

No Muslim does if they know the context. You obviously didn't even know the context, the last person to actually be credible in 'what many muslim do'

Likewise with the verse "kill them wherever you find them" it is not even the whole verse lol. And again in your pathetic desperatoin at least you could hve quoted what comes right after in that verse. It not only says accept terms of peace but it says escort people to place of safety!
YOU ARE A BIG LIAR, so many Muslims believe this, millions believe this, don't be so delusional you liar, be true to yourself don't delude yourself millions of Muslims still believe that the verse applies to today.

Millions have died because of this verse, millions, and million more will die cause of this verse, not one single human will die over anything the Bible teaches in the future, yes millions have died in the past but unlike Muslims Christians don't follow the law of Moses any more.

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« Reply #436 on: November 01, 2012, 04:55:45 PM »
YOU ARE A BIG LIAR, so many Muslims believe this, millions believe this, don't be so delusional you liar, be true to yourself don't delude yourself millions of Muslims still believe that the verse applies to today.

Millions have died because of this verse, millions, and million more will die cause of this verse, not one single human will die over anything the Bible teaches in the future, yes millions have died in the past but unlike Muslims Christians don't follow the law of Moses any more.

Emotional melt down :) Yes United states and western armies follow satan I guess? He encourages them to kill as many believers as possible.

Sorry but, no Muslim would be able to be as uneducated as you are about those verses, because unlike you, they would read the verses before and after. You have not even realized that the verse you mentioned right after mentions protection, escorting to safety, peace, etc... It shows that you have yet again proven to be a desperate islamophobe who gets his 'knowledge' from islamophobe blogs just like e-kul.

My point was the bible says out right have no mercy kill everything even women, children elderly and animals. Spare nothing destroy everything. You will not find anything close to that in the qur'an.

Why don't you erase that from the bible if it's not from God. You say the ENTIRE bible is God's 'inspired word'. Is it?

Still waiting for your 'proof' that Muhammad is a false prophet. I am waiting.

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« Reply #437 on: November 01, 2012, 05:07:05 PM »
You are just plain stupid if you think that I did not know what that verse was referring to, wow such ignorance. The problem lies in the fact that many Muslim won't let it go. Reality check bro, some Muslims believe in this verse still and kill in the name of the verse and like I said millions more will die because of this verse, show me a verse in the Bible that will result in millions more in our present time that will die.

No Christian country follows the law Moses anymore, Christian don't stone people anymore bro. I am not hating just putting up the Mirror

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« Reply #438 on: November 01, 2012, 05:12:20 PM »
You are just plain stupid if you think that I did not know what that verse was referring to, wow such ignorance. The problem lies in the fact that many Muslim won't let it go. Reality check bro, some Muslims believe in this verse still and kill in the name of the verse and like I said millions more will die because of this verse, show me a verse in the Bible that will result in millions more in our present time that will die.

No Christian country follows the law Moses anymore, Christian don't stone people anymore bro. I am not hating just putting up the Mirror

The only person 'not letting go' is you :) If you knew what that verse was and it's context, then why even bother posting it? You didn't, you just copy pasted it.

You thought you were a smart ass for mentioning 'some sword verse' Didn't expect me to post a verse about swords and division by Jesus (pbuh) did you? And if you post verses about battles/fighting, the comparison is not even close. The qur'an will never encourage killing random people, or 'everyone' or whoever while the bible does and mercilessly too.

You're just talking out of your exhaust now, really showing desperation and how islamophobic you are. I feel sorry for you. Proving what your whining opening statement in your thread was all about, that you were accused for being an islamophobe and rightly so, as you are desperately holding onto straws to 'get your point across' about islam being 'evil'.

Yes no Christian follows any of God's laws, you follow man made laws. That's why christians allow gay priests to marry gay 'couples' today even though God destroyed Sodom and Gomorah. You have become lost and follow only your whims and desires.

Again still waiting for your 'proof' of how Muhammad (pbuh) is a false prophet.

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« Reply #439 on: November 01, 2012, 05:20:32 PM »
Bro I am not reading your dumb rants. This verse needs to be posted it is costing lives by the millions, how could anyone let it go, it is a plague of a verse, a curse to humanity, a disgrace and a demonic verse for what it will cost humanity. Like I said anything you mentioned about the Bible is not costing lives right now but the Koran is, get over it Mr. delusional.

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« Reply #440 on: November 01, 2012, 05:26:06 PM »
lol you're a funny islamophobe  ;D

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« Reply #441 on: November 01, 2012, 05:28:37 PM »
Muslim babies very scary:


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« Reply #442 on: November 01, 2012, 05:29:44 PM »
lol you're a funny islamophobe  ;D
Islamic insecurities ?

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« Reply #443 on: November 01, 2012, 05:31:46 PM »
Bro you created this thread out of your own insecurity. You have no credible proofs or discussion points in defending what you believe or disproving Islam. You made a mockery of even christian doctrine by starting to make up your own beliefs along the way and preach pantheism.

You first desperately created that stupid thread about 'wild asses'. Then you created this thread to whine and cry about that thread being destroyed and you were exposed for what you are again desperately trying to do now.

And you should be scared of our laser beams.

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« Reply #444 on: November 01, 2012, 05:32:48 PM »
bla bla bla  :'(

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« Reply #445 on: November 01, 2012, 05:33:54 PM »
You are still deterring from the can you opened (irony). You stated numerous times in anger and seriousness that Muhammad (pbuh) is a false prophet.

I still demand your proof. So far you've done nothing but humiliate yourself by lying.

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« Reply #446 on: November 01, 2012, 05:34:51 PM »
Yes, they came and killed all the jews and muslims and forcefully converted them to chrsitianity. That's where the 'crypto-jews' term comes from. Hiding your faith in public.

Brilliant european savages. When European savages came to spain they thought they were in another world. As Spain had running street lights while most of europe was living in mud houses.

Outed yourself
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« Reply #447 on: November 01, 2012, 05:36:17 PM »
Outed yourself

So are you a gimmick for onetimehard or e-kul or pedro? I'm guessing you're a 40+ year old fart like pedro, so probably pedro. But then again e-kul is also a 40 year old fart except we all know he was abused as a child. Maybe I'm onto something. Three gimmicks in one all the same age? Coincidence?

I have muslim laser beam eyes watch out just like those very dangerous babies with laser beams

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« Reply #448 on: November 01, 2012, 05:38:54 PM »
So are you a gimmick for onetimehard or e-kul or pedro?

I have muslim laser beam eyes watch out just like those very dangerous babies with laser beams

We know you are not a convert as you claim to be. You are a regular middle-eastern Muslim spreading your snake propaganda. You outed yourself with the "European savages" quote. That sort of venom could only come from an camel fuxker!
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« Reply #449 on: November 01, 2012, 05:40:04 PM »
We know you are not a convert as you claim to be. You are a regular middle-eastern Muslim spreading your snake propaganda. You outed yourself with the "European savages" quote. That sort of venom could only come from an Arab!

Well I'll be meeting a getbigger on sunday from here ;) He can affirm that I am a whitey (with facial hair) ;) FYI, I studied French history in depth, all the kings and morons, emperors, including charlamange. "Baptize or die". Europe was nothing but savages killing cousins left and right for power. Pre-islamic arabs were also barbaric savages, although they had certain standards but none the less still barbaric. Islam liberated them and united them. What united Europe was brute force and greed alone not faith. Even the formation of the EU, it was Hitler's vision. Unity by force, not intellect or faith.

So e-kul/pedro/pulling weight... what went wrong in your childhood?